Facebook, Instagram AND Twitter ban Donald Trump

[Turogue]

1 hour ago, jordeezy said:

There are many hours of testimony from people in several states.  Here is AZ. 

 

You act as if the 2016 election was totally fair and square when we all know that Cambridge Analytics heavily influenced that election and helped Trump and his campaign to spread all kinds of lies and fake news.

[FullyDattAndDatt3full]

yeah but they still can't ban his moneyflow

[floopy22]

1 hour ago, Jordan Miller said:

Please share this proof. 

Here you go.

Here Is The Evidence

[floopy22]

13 minutes ago, Turogue said:

You act as if the 2016 election was totally fair and square when we all know that Cambridge Analytics heavily influenced that election and helped Trump and his campaign to spread all kinds of lies and fake news.

Well, good thing there were recounts and investigations, then.

2016 United States presidential election recounts - Wikipedia

"A November 26 statement from the Obama administration acknowledged Russian efforts to interfere in the election, but expressed confidence in the integrity of the electoral infrastructure, indicating that the results of the election "accurately reflect the will of the American people."[72][73] On November 27, the White House released another statement saying, "the federal government did not observe any increased level of malicious cyberactivity aimed at disrupting our electoral process on Election Day."[74]"

[RadicalOptimism]

8 hours ago, PrettyGorl said:

Wow once again your professionalism is OUTSTANDING.

Biden supporters literally did it all summer, you 🤡 including government buildings. It wasn’t just trump supporters who stormed the capitOl building, it was antifa. Paid agitators.

elites aren’t immune from scrutiny from middle America or other elites. What kind of argument was that on your part? You remain the biggest  on this platform.

Aww looks like I struck several nerves with you, Clowny. I don’t have to be professional dummy. This isn’t my job I’m paid for nor am I in political office  To you I may be the biggest clown, but you’re one of the most despised  and even more despicable for defending that asinine person in office. Also disgusting to equate people standing up for racial injustice to what happened yesterday. Keep it up and I’ll hire you for my future kids birthday parties. You sure are an entertaining clown 

[PrettyGorl]

1 hour ago, CrazyButItFeelsAllright said:

Aww looks like I struck several nerves with you, Clowny. I don’t have to be professional dummy. This isn’t my job I’m paid for nor am I in political office  To you I may be the biggest clown, but you’re one of the most despised  and even more despicable for defending that asinine person in office. Also disgusting to equate people standing up for racial injustice to what happened yesterday. Keep it up and I’ll hire you for my future kids birthday parties. You sure are an entertaining clown 

Aw glad to see you hold the position Jordan gave to you in such high regard ❤️
 

he sure picked some great super moderators 

 

[RadicalOptimism]

1 hour ago, PrettyGorl said:

Aw glad to see you hold the position Jordan gave to you in such high regard ❤️
 

he sure picked some great super moderators 

 

I think so too 

[mythology]

This is great news!  You know Trump must be throwing a temper tantrum after this, probably crying and whining like a little *****.

Easily the worst President in my lifetime.  **** him and **** his supporters

[Sia]

12 hours ago, ColdAsFire88 said:

So I’m not a Trump supporter but IDK how I feel about this. Its feels like social media is trying to censor a lot of people. 

On the other hand we need to address and kill hate speech. Maybe this is the way? My question is where are we going to draw the line on censorship? In some ways I have seen it displayed on here, but thats when a topic gets out of hand. 

There has to boundaries but I feel like if someone doesn’t align themselves with the majority then they are the minority and in return silenced. I’m afraid social media outlets are gaining too much control of free speech...

What people seem to forget is that before anything else, social media platforms are private companies. Social media platforms were not established by the constitution as vehicles for people to voice their thoughts.

The fact that people would say things like “social media is silencing free speech” shows just how much power you have given them over your life. It’s quite scary.

If all social media platforms became obsolete today, would that mean that you are no longer able to express yourself? No...you would find a different outlet to share your thoughts. 

Facebook has every right to control what is shared on their platform. If I kicked someone out of mY house for making racist comments, would you say I’m censoring free speech? No...you’d say that I have every right to control what type of people are in my home.

The same applies to these social media outlets.

[A.a.A]

13 hours ago, ColdAsFire88 said:

So I’m not a Trump supporter but IDK how I feel about this. Its feels like social media is trying to censor a lot of people. 

On the other hand we need to address and kill hate speech. Maybe this is the way? My question is where are we going to draw the line on censorship? In some ways I have seen it displayed on here, but thats when a topic gets out of hand. 

There has to boundaries but I feel like if someone doesn’t align themselves with the majority then they are the minority and in return silenced. I’m afraid social media outlets are gaining too much control of free speech...

Thank you! This is a rational response.

[princessmimi]

Good! I'm glad they banned him on those apps!

He's done nothing but spread racism and negativity on them.

Its just scary how much of a negative influence he has on people

[U_WannaLiveFancy]

15 hours ago, PrettyGorl said:

This is ridiculous. He’s no more dangerous than a Clinton or Biden and Kamala. The only reason he’s banned is bc he calls out the elites and media. If you can’t see that at this point, you’re not paying attention. Yes he’s a jerk, but so are Biden and Kamala. Ppl are brainwashed. 

The danger about Trump from my non-U.S. pov is that he has that populist uncertainty about him. You never know if he's gonna turn 180 on topics or not.

For what it's worth, he was THE MOST socially progressive republican ever during the election campagign and upset the "traditional" GOP people. Things like #Gays4Trump DID happen for a while, something unthinkable with say, Ted Cruz. Reminder that he was a registered democrat before iirc.

But the moment he got elected this and that people got hired by him (Him promising to "Drain the swamp", then picking higher echelon Goldman Sachs people to work with him, lol)... The weird-*** "World War Three" stuff in january 2020 with Trump vs Iran felt like a fever dream when I read about it. I was like "WTF this isn't the Trump from 2016 at all"

[Turogue]

19 hours ago, floopy22 said:

Well, good thing there were recounts and investigations, then.

2016 United States presidential election recounts - Wikipedia

"A November 26 statement from the Obama administration acknowledged Russian efforts to interfere in the election, but expressed confidence in the integrity of the electoral infrastructure, indicating that the results of the election "accurately reflect the will of the American people."[72][73] On November 27, the White House released another statement saying, "the federal government did not observe any increased level of malicious cyberactivity aimed at disrupting our electoral process on Election Day."[74]"

Are you a little daft?

"The Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal was a political and ethical scandal in which the personal data of millions of Facebook users were acquired without their consent by British consulting firm Cambridge Analytica, predominantly to be used for political advertising.The data was collected through an app caled "thisisyourdigitallife", developed by data scientist Aleksandr Kogan and his company Global Science Research. The app consisted of a series of questions to build psychological profiles on users, and collected the personal data of the users’ Facebook friends via Facebook's Open Graph platform. The app harvested the data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles. Cambridge Analytica sought to sell the data of American voters to political campaigns and ultimately provided assistance and analytics to the 2016 presidential campaigns of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump."

[floopy22]

2 hours ago, Turogue said:

Are you a little daft?

"The Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal was a political and ethical scandal in which the personal data of millions of Facebook users were acquired without their consent by British consulting firm Cambridge Analytica, predominantly to be used for political advertising.The data was collected through an app caled "thisisyourdigitallife", developed by data scientist Aleksandr Kogan and his company Global Science Research. The app consisted of a series of questions to build psychological profiles on users, and collected the personal data of the users’ Facebook friends via Facebook's Open Graph platform. The app harvested the data of up to 87 million Facebook profiles. Cambridge Analytica sought to sell the data of American voters to political campaigns and ultimately provided assistance and analytics to the 2016 presidential campaigns of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump."

Speak for yourself, because you totally missed my point. If you think collecting data without your consent isn't rampant throughout social media, you're delusional.

My point was they (Obama admin.) were convinced nothing affected the outcome of the election in the end. We know that voting in this election, in several states was done in an illegal matter (state supreme courts bypassing the legislation, which is unconstitutional). This is not even considering any fraud claims.

But fine, piss away your democracy. Having your political opponents not trusting any future election isn't something you bounce back from. No matter how you dehumanize them, they are humans too and deserve to be able to trust the electoral process. You don't get to define who's on "the right side of history", that's not how a democracy works.

[floopy22]

12 hours ago, U_WannaLiveFancy said:

The danger about Trump from my non-U.S. pov is that he has that populist uncertainty about him. You never know if he's gonna turn 180 on topics or not.

For what it's worth, he was THE MOST socially progressive republican ever during the election campagign and upset the "traditional" GOP people. Things like #Gays4Trump DID happen for a while, something unthinkable with say, Ted Cruz. Reminder that he was a registered democrat before iirc.

But the moment he got elected this and that people got hired by him (Him promising to "Drain the swamp", then picking higher echelon Goldman Sachs people to work with him, lol)... The weird-*** "World War Three" stuff in january 2020 with Trump vs Iran felt like a fever dream when I read about it. I was like "WTF this isn't the Trump from 2016 at all"

Populism isn't necessarily a bad thing. It has been severely lacking in western society for a long time. Trump has had some awful advisors throughout the years. The swamp is very real, and it is as much a democrat as a republican thing. They stabbed him in the back (and a large part of Americans) this election, and made him look as bad as they possibly could.

It's not been a thing just for a while, it's been going on for a LONG time. I get so mad how PoC and LGBT Trump-supporters/Republicans are dehumanized and belittled for their political affiliation (e.g. Blaire White, Candace Owens, Brandon Straka, "Diamond & Silk" aka. Lynnette Hardaway and Rochelle Richardson, the list goes on...).

[Turogue]

9 minutes ago, floopy22 said:

Speak for yourself, because you totally missed my point. If you think collecting data without your consent isn't rampant throughout social media, you're delusional.

My point was they (Obama admin.) were convinced nothing affected the outcome of the election in the end. We know that voting in this election, in several states was done in an illegal matter (state supreme courts bypassing the legislation, which is unconstitutional). This is not even considering any fraud claims.

But fine, piss away your democracy. Having your political opponents not trusting any future election isn't something you bounce back from. No matter how you dehumanize them, they are humans too and deserve to be able to trust the electoral process. You don't get to define who's on "the right side of history", that's not how a democracy works.

There is no proof the election was rigged. I lost count of how many of Trump's suits were thrown out by the courts. 

There's no fraud just because you accept that as the only possible truth. But the deluded victim mentality is typical of Trump and his suckers. The way he already claimed before the election that he could only lose if the votes are manipulated just shows the ridiculous ways he uses to manipulate his audience and to secure they follow him wherever he goes, regardless of how amoral it is. It's really like a cult, you believe everything he says and everybody that doesn't back up is automatically the enemy, fake news, a liar or whatever and only that can be the truth. It's sick beyond words. 

[floopy22]

1 minute ago, Turogue said:

There is no proof the election was rigged. I lost count of how many of Trump's suits were thrown out by the courts. 

There's no fraud just because you accept that as the only possible truth. But the deluded victim mentality is typical of Trump and his suckers. The way he already claimed before the election that he could only lose if the votes are manipulated just shows the ridiculous ways he uses to manipulate his audience and to secure they follow him wherever he goes, regardless of how amoral it is. It's really like a cult, you believe everything he says and everybody that doesn't back up is automatically the enemy, fake news, a liar or whatever and only that can be the truth. It's sick beyond words. 

I'm not even a fan of Trump! Sure, I like many of the things he has done, but he's in many ways a fool.

No court has looked at evidence (discovery, depositions etc.). They have only been dismissed on lack of standing or some technicality.

Any re-count that has been performed were pointless for several reasons...

1. Observers were consistently blocked from observing the counting/audit.

2. No real signature audit or ballot validity has been performed.

3. There are many affidavits of witnesses observing obvious foul play during vote counting (witness testimony IS valid evidence in court, contrary to common belief).

Here Is The Evidence

It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented if people cannot have an open mind.

This is the state the US is in. The courts are packed by corrupt judges who value politics over truth and the populace isn't much better. Republicans and independents/centrists seem to still have some resemblance of belief in democracy and liberty. Democrats howevert, seem to value power and winning no matter the cost... All wrapped in a progressive, corporate, social justice-drenched package.

There are delusional Trump supporters, who refuse to aknowledge his flaws and also took some of the election fraud too far into conspiracy land. Both sides are to blame for this mess.

The whole west is going to suffer, because they do what America does. Democracy is dead.

[Turogue]

47 minutes ago, floopy22 said:

Populism isn't necessarily a bad thing. It has been severely lacking in western society for a long time. Trump has had some awful advisors throughout the years. The swamp is very real, and it is as much a democrat as a republican thing. They stabbed him in the back (and a large part of Americans) this election, and made him look as bad as they possibly could.

It's not been a thing just for a while, it's been going on for a LONG time. I get so mad how PoC and LGBT Trump-supporters/Republicans are dehumanized and belittled for their political affiliation (e.g. Blaire White, Candace Owens, Brandon Straka, "Diamond & Silk" aka. Lynnette Hardaway and Rochelle Richardson, the list goes on...).

They aren't dehumanized for their affiliation, they're easily fact-checked like the political figures that they follow and defend and they're exposed for their idiocy or at least for the nonsense that they repeat (just like you do)

Lies and and false information does not turn into facts just because you say it over and over again. It turns into a believe but it's all in the head, it's not the truth, it's not facts.

 

Dispute with family of Mollie TibbettsEdit

In August 2018, Owens had a dispute with a Sam Lucas, cousin of Mollie Tibbetts, who had been ******** by Cristhian Bahena Rivera, a 24-year-old Mexican illegal immigrant.^[77] Tibbetts' cousin said that Owens had exploited Tibbetts' death for "political propaganda".^[78][79] Owens responded by describing Lucas' criticism as a "strange" attack on Trump supporters. Later that month, the University of Iowa's chapter of Turning Point USA criticized Owens for "public harassment" towards a member of Tibbetts' family, and the executive board members of the chapter all resigned in protest.^[80]

Comments on 2018 mail bombing attemptsEdit

In October 2018, during the mail bombing attempts targeting prominent Democrats, Owens took to Twitter to promote the conspiracy theory that the mailings were sent by leftists.^[81] After authorities on October 26 arrested a 56-year-old suspect who was a registered Republican and Trump supporter, Owens deleted her tweet without explanation.^[82]

Comments about Adolf Hit**rEdit

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Rep. Ted Lieu plays recording of Candace Owens's statement on Adolf Hit**r.

At the launch of the British offshoot Turning Point UK in December 2018, Owens made comments about Adolf Hit**r.^[83] She was responding to an audience member who asked for a "long-term prognosis" about the terms "globalism" and "nationalism", Owens said:

I actually don't have any problems at all with the word "nationalism". I think that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I don't want. Whenever we say "nationalism" the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hit**r. You know, [Hit**r] was a national socialist, but if Hit**r just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is that he wanted—he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German. Everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism.^[83][84]

Following heavy criticism for her comments, Owens clarified them on Twitter and in a Judiciary Committee hearing in the U.S. House of Representatives in February 2019.^[85] Owens said that "[Hit**r] was a homicidal, psychopathic, maniac that killed his own people" and "[Hit**r was not a Nationalist, he] ******** his own people, a nationalist would not kill their own people". She said that the point of her comments was to say that there is "no excuse or defense ever for... everything that [Hit**r] did".^[83][86] She also said that her comments were about Hit**r's crimes against Jews.^[85]

Owens' comments about Hit**r were played in April 2019 by Representative Ted Lieu during testimony in front of the House Judiciary Committee about the issue of increasing hate crimes and white supremacy in America. Lieu said that he did not know Owens and was just going to let her own words characterize her, before playing the audio clip. Owens responded that Lieu had deliberately omitted an interviewer's question that provided critical context to her words, with the intent of misrepresenting them as an endorsement of Hit**r, to smear her reputation.^[87]

Donald Trump Jr. praised Owens on Twitter for "call(ing) out the Dems on their purposeful manipulation of facts for their narrative".^[88]

Mention in Christchurch shooter's manifestoEdit

The perpetrator of the Christchurch mosque shootings produced a manifesto in which he wrote that Owens had "influenced him above all".^[89][90][91] According to journalist Robert Evans, it was "possible, even likely" that the shooter was a fan of Owens, considering her rhetoric against Muslim immigrants, but in context the terrorist's references to her may have been an example of "****posting" intended to provoke political conflict.^[92][93] For instance, the line "Though I will have to disavow some of [Owens'] beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes" was assessed by The Root as trolling.^[94]

Hours after the shootings, Owens posted a tweet in reaction to allegations that she inspired the mass ******, saying that she never created any content espousing her views on the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution or Islam.^[95] However, her tweet was criticized as "glib" when it was reported that she actually had posted tweets about the 2nd Amendment and Islam.^{[96][97][98][75]} She later made formal statements rejecting any connection to the shooter.^[75]

George Floyd protestsEdit

In June 2020, Owens falsely claimed that George Soros paid people to protest the killing of George Floyd.^[99] Shortly afterwards, she argued that George Floyd "was not a good person. I don't care who wants to spin that."^[100] She said, "The fact that he has been held up as a martyr sickens me."^[100] President Trump retweeted Owens's remarks about Floyd.^[100][101] In a Facebook video that garnered nearly 100 million views, Owens called Floyd a "horrible human being", citing his criminal record, and called racial biases among police a "fake narrative."^[102]

Coronavirus pandemicEdit

During the coronavirus pandemic, Owens frequently downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic. In February 2020, after referring to earlier predictions about war and climate, she said "... now we're all going to die from Coronavirus" and said that the left was becoming a "Doomsday Cult".^[103] In April, she said that COVID-19 deaths were overcounted; health experts said that it was more likely that COVID-19 deaths were undercounted.^[104]

Regarding a coronavirus vaccine, she said "under no circumstances will I be getting any #coronavirus vaccine that becomes available. Ever. No matter what."^[105] She referred to Bill Gates as a "vaccine-criminal", and said that he and the WHO used "African & Indian tribal children to experiment w/ non-FDA approved **** vaccines."^[106][107]

Edited January 8, 2021 by Turogue

[floopy22]

22 minutes ago, Turogue said:

There is no proof the election was rigged. I lost count of how many of Trump's suits were thrown out by the courts. 

There's no fraud just because you accept that as the only possible truth. But the deluded victim mentality is typical of Trump and his suckers. The way he already claimed before the election that he could only lose if the votes are manipulated just shows the ridiculous ways he uses to manipulate his audience and to secure they follow him wherever he goes, regardless of how amoral it is. It's really like a cult, you believe everything he says and everybody that doesn't back up is automatically the enemy, fake news, a liar or whatever and only that can be the truth. It's sick beyond words. 

I agree with you, his attitude that there's no way he could lose was stupid. No, he couldn't know that. And he claiming such was frankly embarrassing.

However, Biden was the weakest democratic candidate ever. He got so much more votes than both Obama or Hillary, which is just ridiculously unrealistic. Voter turnout was WAY above normal in swing states, which is also strange. It doesn't add up, and deserves an honest investigation. These states are know historically to have had extensive voter fraud.

[Turogue]

14 minutes ago, floopy22 said:

I'm not even a fan of Trump! Sure, I like many of the things he has done, but he's in many ways a fool.

No court has looked at evidence (discovery, depositions etc.). They have only been dismissed on lack of standing or some technicality.

Any re-count that has been performed were pointless for several reasons...

1. Observers were consistently blocked from observing the counting/audit.

2. No real signature audit or ballot validity has been performed.

3. There are many affidavits of witnesses observing obvious foul play during vote counting (witness testimony IS valid evidence in court, contrary to common belief).

Here Is The Evidence

It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented if people cannot have an open mind.

This is the state the US is in. The courts are packed by corrupt judges who value politics over truth and the populace isn't much better. Republicans and independents/centrists seem to still have some resemblance of belief in democracy and liberty. Democrats howevert, seem to value power and winning no matter the cost... All wrapped in a progressive, corporate, social justice-drenched package.

There are delusional Trump supporters, who refuse to aknowledge his flaws and also took some of the election fraud too far into conspiracy land. Both sides are to blame for this mess.

The whole west is going to suffer, because they do what America does. Democracy is dead.

Honey don't even try, it's obvious that you're another paid shill or bot. You're not gonna go anywhere with this silly propaganda.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/donald-trump-georgia-election-joe-biden-congress/index.html

There is an actual recording of Trump begging for another 11000 something votes. Trump himself tried to influence the outcome. Bye.

Edited January 8, 2021 by Turogue