music People who can't separate the art from the artist are tiring

[ExXL]

3 hours ago, Lizardface said:

Hard to listen to mj knowing he was a pe**. 

"Knowing" how do you know that exactly ?? Do you have a proof , or it's just because some people said it ???

[LeglessJamie]

THIS!

 

Michael Jackson is one of the best examples in music.

Yes, he MIGHT have done things that are awful, we shouldn't lie to ourselves and keep embracing his music.

Imagine a world where his music would be offline just because of his actions. His work is ART. 

[Britneylandia]

You shouldn’t separate the art form the artist if they are horrible people. Evil people shouldn’t be praised. The end.

[Lizardface]

51 minutes ago, ExXL said:

"Knowing" how do you know that exactly ?? Do you have a proof , or it's just because some people said it ???

Why would a grown *** men want to be in bed with children unsupervised.

Use your brain sweetie. 

[Spicechinodiva]

Prince was never gay, he wore feminine fashions and created a female alter ego, but he was androgynous, but he still took the girl home, trust me..

 

Nothing gay about him, he was just a ***ual person and wasn't afraid to Express himself between both worlds..

 

Listen to his 1981 Song "controversy"

 

He asks you. 

 

"Am I straight or gay?"

 

There was rumors, but he was just poking fun at the rumors, nothing wrong with that.. he laughed it off, he didn't do it like most males do, he just played along with it, which was genius, especially at the most conservative decade. For ***ual expression and freedom, the 1980s..

 

 

[NobodyKnowsPete]

On 4/25/2021 at 10:41 PM, Dreams said:

So tired of these people saying someone is problematic1!!111!!! or whatever

A painting or a song stands on it's own.
A very nice person might produce crap art, just listen to ARTPOP

Once a piece of art is born, it has a life of its own.
in the end, the art is not the artist. they are separable to me.
Times change, norms change, and people change, too.
if we threw out all art whose creators didn't fit current political standards or whose creators were problematic, we would have precious little left,

if you are going to listen to music with this mindset, you aren't going to listen to much things.

Sorry, but I’m not agree 100%. Not when someone make art based in a protest or movement just trying to sell more copies of their music, or even worst, an abuser or a rap***. Just no...

But I’m agree when we talk about people that made a not so big mistake and the world wants them to pay their whole life. They should look at themselves first and get a life also...

[mythology]

What about ****ty people that make ****ty music?  Chris Brown is a perfect example

[StephenDallas]

Cancel culture in general needs to stop. It lost its credibility quickly. It’s just become a witch hunt. Everyone jumps on a bandwagon like sheep. You change your hairstyle these days you’re ‘cancelled’

[ExXL]

45 minutes ago, Lizardface said:

Why would a grown *** men want to be in bed with children unsupervised.

Use your brain sweetie. 

Yeah that's creepy as hell but Michael was a weirdo , but it still doesn't mean he did something ***ual to the children .... Like , still I'm not advocating for what he did , but calling him a pe** is just disrespectful .

[Sea flower]

I can separate the art from the artist as long as the artist has not commited a crime. Of course there is also a chance for redemption but depending on how serious the crime is, no, it cannot be separated.

[Setherface]

I just think peoples reasons for canceling people are stupid. Like yeahhhh azealia banks has a lot of trash opinions on things and somehow that makes it so she can't have a music career even though her music is incredible but somehow chris brown is still racking up top ten hits after what he did to rihanna? Make it make sense 

[anthony7226]

People telling me how to, or judging me for how I choose to, consume art is tiring. 

[Alexanda]

2 hours ago, mythology said:

What about ****ty people that make ****ty music?  Chris Brown is a perfect example

Not true at all

79 million views for an unreleased track. 

[Alexanda]

2 hours ago, anthony7226 said:

People telling me how to, or judging me for how I choose to, consume art is tiring. 

You mean like the Spotify-users? I won't stream music, i just don't like it. 

[anthony7226]

51 minutes ago, Alexanda said:

You mean like the Spotify-users? I won't stream music, i just don't like it. 

No, like this post. Und the onlyfans post. Und the DMX post. 

[Alexanda]

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[Xfactor Sam]

This is a brilliant thread. Couldnt agree more. With the OP 

[GodneyBeysusRhisus]

On 4/25/2021 at 2:41 PM, Dreams said:

So tired of these people saying someone is problematic1!!111!!! or whatever

A painting or a song stands on it's own.
A very nice person might produce crap art, just listen to ARTPOP

Once a piece of art is born, it has a life of its own.
in the end, the art is not the artist. they are separable to me.
Times change, norms change, and people change, too.
if we threw out all art whose creators didn't fit current political standards or whose creators were problematic, we would have precious little left,

if you are going to listen to music with this mindset, you aren't going to listen to much things.

I can agree to an extent. If the artist just says ignorant, obnoxious **** (Kanye, for example) are one thing but evil, vile predators that used their influence, money, and power (R. Kelly, obviously) to r@pe, torture, and enslave young Black girls should be completely cancelled. Every streaming sight and store should remove any media by him and release a statement announcing said removal along with a very stern and clear denouncement of the monster as a whole. Anyone wondering why this hasn’t been done yet, especially those that don’t live in the U.S., our Constitution considers any defendant innocent until proven guilty so, until R. Kelly changes his plea to guilty or is found guilty in a court of law, the big companies that stream and sell his media (e.g. YouTube, Spotify, Shazam, Tidal, Apple Music, etc.) it is more than likely due to this Constitutional clause but will more than like likely play out as explained above. 

PS - A serious and heartfelt thank you to anyone that actually read this entire comment. I have ADHD but write important legal documents many days in my profession so, while I am good at putting my thoughts down in a relatively chronological order, I can’t just write a short paragraph and call it a day, lol. Anyhow, I know people hate long replies so, if  you took any of your precious time to read all of this I genuinely appreciate you and you made my day 💜

[Britney'sBish]

If a person is acting like trash, they no longer deserve your support. 

That said there are plenty of artists I can't stand, but I like their material, but it also doesn't mean they saw a dime from me. 

[femmepop]

I listened to Broke With Expensive taste today for the first time in a while and I was like 

I still follow her and enjoy her so-called problematic persona sue me.

But I get what you're saying and it is very exhausting everyone policing each other over everything all the time. The Lana mask and question for culture thing got taken way out of context....

artists used to be the ones that broke  the rules and shook up the culture, now everyone has to play it so safe.