Britney Spears "has no estate" so what is the deal with Britney Brands?

[RebellionSparkles]

9 minutes ago, kgid said:

CaPsLoCk aNgEr BuZzWoRdS iNsUlTs

Nope.  Sit down, friend.  The story of corruption, she'll companies, mismanagement, bad financial actors is NOT routinely interesting in finance law.  Because it is so common place.  But I can see you be like troll so, yes, I am aware I'm wasting my breath.  

 

The caps lock was intended to be sassy not troll-y 🕊

I’m genuinely excited to meet new people who do this kind of stuff for a living. I work in finance…and im sort of desperate to nerd out with someone over the accountings.

[RebellionSparkles]

16 minutes ago, kgid said:

CaPsLoCk

I’m not a troll I promise! 🕊♥️
I wrote that message excitedly, not angrily!

[Steel Magnolia]

8 hours ago, Ghoulia said:

🚩🚩Miley & Britney have a certain manager/lawyer in common - Larry Rudolph. His legal specialty is IP and copyright. 

I'm curious to know...

When Larry is thanked in the BSB liner notes as being part of the "Jive Clan," is Larry being paid by...

• The artist?
• Lou Pearlman?
• Jive?

Who does Larry Rudolph actually work for?

[BrittonJeanSpears]

13 hours ago, AmandaJankins said:

so if god forbid Britney passes, does Michael kane, her business manager, handle her money? He decides who the money's given to?

Well, hopefully Britney has a will that would dictate who gets what.

But most likely anything and everything would go to either Sam as her spouse or the boys as her heirs.

[Oprah Winfrey.]

I didn’t realize an estate is specifically for someone that passed away. So why exactly did Britney have one.

it makes sense when she said in court to judge penny “you made me feel like I was dead”

[Steel Magnolia]

14 minutes ago, 3IsACharm33 said:

I didn’t realize an estate is specifically for someone that passed away. So why exactly did Britney have one.

it makes sense when she said in court to judge penny “you made me feel like I was dead”

It's not.

My mom had Alzheimer's and my dad was awarded Power of Attorney over her.

He had POA over her "estate" and was able to access her bank accounts and pay her bills on her behalf until she died.

[Oprah Winfrey.]

12 hours ago, mocha latto said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/britney-inc-court-papers-detail-drama-of-doing-business-with-britney-spears/

Ok that was interesting to read. Wow so many companies and parties wanted Britney to do a deposition, to prove rather or not she was truly incompetent and if she was even aware of what was going on with her businesses. 

They even mentioned how she did an interview with Ryan secrest and seemed fine. 

that’s definitely saying something! Big players were also interested in the legality of Britney’s conservatorship. 

imagine Britney had the chance to a deposition she would’ve reveled that the con was nothing but a big scam and she wasn’t in control. 
 And this was back in 2011.

Now I do know she did eventually sit for a deposition from Sam lufti  after years of avoiding it(anyone have details on that) but who knows what **** cocktail or level of threatening they could’ve gave her that day so she could be compliant???

[tco]

4 hours ago, Britney'sBish said:

Who is Michael Caine though?

and I'm not talking about the actor.

 

[tco]

I don't think she owns her brands 100% maybe that is the reason behind she is not wanting to work right now, maybe she is just awaiting for the contracts to expire, time will tell.

 

[Ghoulia]

1 hour ago, Steel Magnolia said:

I'm curious to know...

When Larry is thanked in the BSB liner notes as being part of the "Jive Clan," is Larry being paid by...

• The artist?
• Lou Pearlman?
• Jive?

Who does Larry Rudolph actually work for?

That's a great question.  I've been wondering that for a while.  

Sunset Tan Larry Rudolph's profile:

Sunset Tan Larry Rudolph

WWW.SUNSETTAN.COM

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Larry Rudolph, Co-President of LA Sunset Tan.

 

In 1992, Larry Rudolph founded the entertainment law firm of Rudolph & Beer, which quickly became one of the preeminent entertainment law firms on the East Coast. Their high-profile clients include: The Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Nick Lachey, 98 Degrees, and Jessica Simpson, to name a few.
 

[easy]

11 minutes ago, tco said:

 

i hate when people use this as a way to insinuate kane had something to do with michael jackson's death (not saying you are)

come to jesus is a common phrase used, especially in addiction recovery/therapy, as a way to describe a person having the realization that their life/decisions/etc need to change. it doesn't mean to literally "go to the light and see jesus"

[Ghoulia]

1 hour ago, Steel Magnolia said:

I'm curious to know...

When Larry is thanked in the BSB liner notes as being part of the "Jive Clan," is Larry being paid by...

• The artist?
• Lou Pearlman?
• Jive?

Who does Larry Rudolph actually work for?

Mentors - Legal

SCHEDULE.SXSW.COM

Under "significant representations"

Backstreet Boys, Backstreet Boys, Jive Records
Backstreet Boys, Millennium, Jive Records
Britney Spears, ...Baby One More Time, Jive Records
Britney Spears , Oops... I Did It Again, Jive Records
Britney Spears, Britney, Jive Records

 

[Ghoulia]

4 minutes ago, easy said:

i hate when people use this as a way to insinuate kane had something to do with michael jackson's death (not saying you are)

come to jesus is a common phrase used, especially in addiction recovery/therapy, as a way to describe a person having the realization that their life/decisions/etc need to change. it doesn't mean to literally "go to the light and see jesus"

I always had the impression that in this case, it implies that they were putting immense pressure on him to perform (which was the big, immediate money-maker). 

[easy]

10 minutes ago, Ghoulia said:

I always had the impression that in this case, it implies that they were putting immense pressure on him to perform (which was the big, immediate money-maker). 

agreed! i think jackson was feeling the pressure of having to perform, was looking to back out, and kane wanted to remind him the financial side without adding more pressure. 

[Ghoulia]

1 hour ago, Steel Magnolia said:

I'm curious to know...

When Larry is thanked in the BSB liner notes as being part of the "Jive Clan," is Larry being paid by...

• The artist?
• Lou Pearlman?
• Jive?

Who does Larry Rudolph actually work for?

Check out this Billboard magazine from November 2001. 

Billboard : Nielsen Business Media, Inc. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

ARCHIVE.ORG

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In its 114th year, Billboard remains the world's premier weekly music publication and a diverse digital, events, brand, content and data licensing platform....

In particular, the ad on page 2.

Spoiler

Management: Larry Rudolph and Johnny Wright for Wright Entertainment Group.

Legal Representation: Rudolph and Beer

So, Rudolph & Beer works for Jive, but Larry Rudolph works for WEG.  

[Ghoulia]

4 minutes ago, easy said:

agreed! i think jackson was feeling the pressure of having to perform, was looking to back out, and kane wanted to remind him the financial side without adding more pressure. 

Well, I think reminding Michael Kane's lecture to Michael of the financial drawbacks to backing out of a contract is not exactly a friendly conversation. It's going to be aggressive, threatening and probably laced with the worst possible consequences. I've always heard "come to Jesus" used in a context that basically implies violence to force compliance. 

[mocha latto]

4 hours ago, Wayne said:

I don’t think he can. He would need permission from her to use her name/likeness which she would decline. If he did without her permission she can sue. 

He does not if he gave himself full control through Britney during the conservatorship. Again, in the music industry you are not automatically guaranteed the rights to your own image & likeness.

[easy]

2 minutes ago, Ghoulia said:

Well, I think reminding Michael Kane's lecture to Michael of the financial drawbacks to backing out of a contract is not exactly a friendly conversation. It's going to be aggressive, threatening and probably laced with the worst possible consequences. I've always heard "come to Jesus" used in a context that basically implies violence to force compliance. 

i work in addiction recovery/therapy and in my profession it's always used as having addicts and former addicts understand the weight of their addiction and how their actions need/should change. never threatening, always very encouraging of growth and healing. never a lecture either, it's an open and honest discussion. no hand holding and coddling, sure, but rather a "tough love" conversation. 

[Ghoulia]

4 minutes ago, easy said:

i work in addiction recovery/therapy and in my profession it's always used as having addicts and former addicts understand the weight of their addiction and how their actions need/should change. never threatening, always very encouraging of growth and healing. never a lecture either, it's an open and honest discussion. no hand holding and coddling, sure, but rather a "tough love" conversation. 

I don't think business managers necessarily have the same goals as addiction counselors.  I think Michael Kane's "come to jesus" would have been more like this:

Come to Jesus Meeting - Ask The Manager

ASKTHEMANAGER.COM

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Come to Jesus Meeting: It’s meant to convey the importance (and maybe the overdue nature) of a meeting where a supervisor is going to finally lay down the law or where a crisis is finally going to be addressed.

"This hackneyed, overused phrase is meant to show that the speaker is not just serious or even really serious this time; but, rather, he or she is really, really, really serious! So serious, in fact, that, “If Bob doesn’t step up his performance, we’re going to have a Come to Jesus Meeting!”

It’s meant to convey the importance (and maybe the overdue nature) of a meeting where a supervisor is going to finally lay down the law or where a crisis is finally going to be addressed."

[easy]

1 minute ago, Ghoulia said:

I don't think business managers necessarily have the same goals as addiction counselors.  I think Michael Kane's "come to jesus" would have been more like this:

Come to Jesus Meeting - Ask The Manager

ASKTHEMANAGER.COM

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Come to Jesus Meeting: It’s meant to convey the importance (and maybe the overdue nature) of a meeting where a supervisor is going to finally lay down the law or where a crisis is finally going to be addressed.

"This hackneyed, overused phrase is meant to show that the speaker is not just serious or even really serious this time; but, rather, he or she is really, really, really serious! So serious, in fact, that, “If Bob doesn’t step up his performance, we’re going to have a Come to Jesus Meeting!”

It’s meant to convey the importance (and maybe the overdue nature) of a meeting where a supervisor is going to finally lay down the law or where a crisis is finally going to be addressed."

yes, i don't think kane would have the same care as a counselor would either- he wants to make money. i just don't like the insinuation that "come to jesus" meant that kane was involved in jackson's death. which is how i always see people use that email when discussing kane/jackson/britney