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52 minutes ago, Steel Magnolia said:

Take a look at the entry just below "Medication Authorization."

Under "Attorneys"...

"...unless authorization to treat dementia is requested, in which case an attorney is appointed by the court."

And there we go.

So...

Walking it backwards...

Team CON knew they wanted to go with a "dementia" diagnosis because it meant,ย 

a) They could have their chosen attorney (Ingham) appointed, and
b) They could administer medication.

So how do they secure a "dementia" diagnosis?

Right?? I think this is why Rosendaddy is specifically questioning why they chose LPS over a Probate CON

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10 minutes ago, RebellionSparkles said:

Dementia has never been documented in someone in their 20s, so I doubt Cali probate has any age limitation on a diagnosis. I think itโ€™s more that the hospital isnโ€™t allowed to give these ***** to a patient unless a court signs off on it BECAUSE these ***** are control *****. This didnโ€™t become a story until 10 years after Britneyโ€™s incident about caretakers abusing control ***** with dementia patients. But this is extremely well known amongst any family dealing with dementia.

@Mx_Defyingย has also recently discussed Risperdal on Twitterโ€ฆitโ€™s not a therapeutic ****.

my mom was put on the exact cocktail of Risperdal, Seroquel, Haldolโ€ฆitโ€™s a cocktail in California. Itโ€™s no bueno.

Even ****-induced dementia?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7873091/

https://www.brightfocus.org/alzheimers/article/is-it-something-im-taking-medications-that-can-mimic-dementia

It's an actual thing.

I'm just assuming "****-induced dementia" was going to be their public-facing explanation for the CON.

But the public didn't pry...Because the misogyny in 2007 was enough to convince almost everyone that the CON was necessary.

No questions asked.

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1 hour ago, Steel Magnolia said:

Take a look at the entry just below "Medication Authorization."

Under "Attorneys"...

"...unless authorization to treat dementia is requested, in which case an attorney is appointed by the court."

And there we go.

So...

Walking it backwards...

Team CON knew they wanted to go with a "dementia" diagnosis because it meant,ย 

a) They could have their chosen attorney (Ingham) appointed, and
b) They could administer medication.

So how do they secure a "dementia" diagnosis?

Make her seem like she has dementia under whatever probate code standards existed for 2008.ย :otears_oprah_crying_tissue_napkin_tears_sobbing_sad:

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14 minutes ago, Ghoulia said:

Make her seem like she has dementia under whatever probate code standards existed for 2008.ย :otears_oprah_crying_tissue_napkin_tears_sobbing_sad:

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"Sam told Jackie and me that he grinds up Britney's pills, which were on the counter and included Risperdol and Seroquel. He told us that he puts them in her food that that was the reason she had been quiet for the last three days (she had been sleeping.) He told us that the doctor who is treating her now is trying to get her into a sleep-induced coma so that they could then give her ***** to heal her brain."

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4249744&page=1

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4 minutes ago, Steel Magnolia said:

"Sam told Jackie and me that he grinds up Britney's pills, which were on the counter and included Risperdol and Seroquel. He told us that he puts them in her food that that was the reason she had been quiet for the last three days (she had been sleeping.) He told us that the doctor who is treating her now is trying to get her into a sleep-induced coma so that they could then give her ***** to heal her brain."

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4249744&page=1

This paragraph lives rent-free in my mind ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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On 7/2/2022 at 1:17 PM, Lola2790 said:

Jordan, could you get in touch withย Moonwalkย Mars or his insiders?ย 

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He said in 2020 he had heard from sources at the hospital where Britney was at days before the conservatorship that they zapped her brain and it was something so dangerous that they thought Britney died. She then was so 'bewildered' that they were able to justify she needed a conservatorship from a doctor seeing her in that state for about 10 minutes.ย 

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Moonwalk Mars had a public hate train out for Jordan. Don't get your hopes up. I wouldn't take anything moonwalk say seriously.

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6 minutes ago, Steel Magnolia said:

I think we solved it!

NYH was right...Checking the "dementia" box triggers an automatic court-appointed attorney and the ability to administer medication.

We're just looking for the specific piece of probate code now.

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https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PROB&sectionNum=2356.5.

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(c)ย Notwithstanding any other law, a conservator of a person may authorize the administration of medications appropriate for the care and treatment of major neurocognitive disorder, upon a courtโ€™s finding, by clear and convincing evidence, of all of the following:

(1)ย The conservatee has major neurocognitive disorder, as defined in the last published edition of the โ€œDiagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.โ€

(2)ย The conservatee lacks the capacity to give informed consent to the administration of medications appropriate to the care of major neurocognitive disorder, and has at least one mental function deficit pursuant to subdivision (a) of Section 811, and this deficit or deficits significantly impairs the personโ€™s ability to understand and appreciate the consequences of his or her actions pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 811.

(3)ย The conservatee needs or would benefit from appropriate medication as demonstrated by evidence presented by the physician or psychologist referred to in paragraph (3) of subdivision (f).

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1 minute ago, Ghoulia said:

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https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PROB&sectionNum=2356.5.

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(c)ย Notwithstanding any other law, a conservator of a person may authorize the administration of medications appropriate for the care and treatment of major neurocognitive disorder, upon a courtโ€™s finding, by clear and convincing evidence, of all of the following:

(1)ย The conservatee has major neurocognitive disorder, as defined in the last published edition of the โ€œDiagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.โ€

(2)ย The conservatee lacks the capacity to give informed consent to the administration of medications appropriate to the care of major neurocognitive disorder, and has at least one mental function deficit pursuant to subdivision (a) of Section 811, and this deficit or deficits significantly impairs the personโ€™s ability to understand and appreciate the consequences of his or her actions pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 811.

(3)ย The conservatee needs or would benefit from appropriate medication as demonstrated by evidence presented by the physician or psychologist referred to in paragraph (3) of subdivision (f).

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Here's 811ย https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?division=2.&part=17.&lawCode=PROB

I guess it doesn't matter to the probate court who makes this determination!ย 

(a)ย A determination that a person is of unsound mind or lacks the capacity to make a decision or do a certain act, including, but not limited to, the incapacity to contract, to make a conveyance, to marry, to make medical decisions, to execute wills, or to execute trusts, shall be supported by evidence of a deficit in at least one of the following mental functions, subject to subdivision (b), and evidence of a correlation between the deficit or deficits and the decision or acts in question:

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(1)ย Alertness and attention, including, but not limited to, the following:

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(A)ย Level of arousal or consciousness.

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(B)ย Orientation to time, place, person, and situation.

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(C)ย Ability to attend and concentrate.

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(2)ย Information processing, including, but not limited to, the following:

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(A)ย Short- and long-term memory, including immediate recall.

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(B)ย Ability to understand or communicate with others, either verbally or otherwise.

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(C)ย Recognition of familiar objects and familiar persons.

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(D)ย Ability to understand and appreciate quantities.

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(E)ย Ability to reason using abstract concepts.

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(F)ย Ability to plan, organize, and carry out actions in oneโ€™s own rational self-interest.

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(G)ย Ability to reason logically.

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(3)ย Thought processes. Deficits in these functions may be demonstrated by the presence of the following:

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(A)ย Severely disorganized thinking.

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(B)ย Hallucinations.

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(C)ย Delusions.

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(D)ย Uncontrollable, repetitive, or intrusive thoughts.

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(4)ย Ability to modulate mood and affect. Deficits in this ability may be demonstrated by the presence of a pervasive and persistent or recurrent state of euphoria, anger, anxiety, fear, panic, depression, hopelessness or despair, helplessness, apathy or indifference, that is inappropriate in degree to the individualโ€™s circumstances.

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(b)ย A deficit in the mental functions listed above may be considered only if the deficit, by itself or in combination with one or more other mental function deficits, significantly impairs the personโ€™s ability to understand and appreciate the consequences of his or her actions with regard to the type of act or decision in question.

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(c)ย In determining whether a person suffers from a deficit in mental function so substantial that the person lacks the capacity to do a certain act, the court may take into consideration the frequency, severity, and duration of periods of impairment.

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(d)ย The mere diagnosis of a mental or physical disorder shall not be sufficient in and of itself to support a determination that a person is of unsound mind or lacks the capacity to do a certain act.

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(e)ย This part applies only to the evidence that is presented to, and the findings that are made by, a court determining the capacity of a person to do a certain act or make a decision, including, but not limited to, making medical decisions. Nothing in this part shall affect the decisionmaking process set forth in Section 1418.8 of the Health and Safety Code, nor increase or decrease the burdens of documentation on, or potential liability of, health care providers who, outside the judicial context, determine the capacity of patients to make a medical decision.

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1 hour ago, Steel Magnolia said:

Even ****-induced dementia?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7873091/

https://www.brightfocus.org/alzheimers/article/is-it-something-im-taking-medications-that-can-mimic-dementia

It's an actual thing.

I'm just assuming "****-induced dementia" was going to be their public-facing explanation for the CON.

But the public didn't pry...Because the misogyny in 2007 was enough to convince almost everyone that the CON was necessary.

No questions asked.

Mental health stigma, ableism, jingoism, and racism were key too! They were โ€œprotectingโ€ Britney from non-white men and herself. These braids of oppression still consume much of the discourse around Britneyโ€™s life.ย 

If people would have listened to disability justice advocates in 2008 this wouldnโ€™t have happened!

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National Alliance on Mental Illness

January 31, 2008

Britney Spears: Let's Talk About All of Us

โ€œGetting well can be a difficult process. It takes time. It may involve relapses. Involuntary treatment may be necessary in some instances, but only as a last resort, and over time, a personโ€™s insight often returns and treatment becomes voluntary. There should be no stigma for a person being hospitalized or treated for mental illness, voluntary or otherwise.โ€

https://www.nami.org/Press-Media/Press-Releases/2008/Britney-Spears-Let-s-Talk-About-All-of-Us

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1 hour ago, Steel Magnolia said:

Joinedย January 22, 2019...But only has 128 posts.

Two of which were to "call me out."

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Wow. This is your comeback? Iโ€™ve been a silent follower of this site since the hay day. I donโ€™t need credentials to tell you what it is. Ha.ย 

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Somewhat OP, But I just saw the movie ''Love & Mercy'' , where Brian Wilson, the frontman of ยดยดThe Beach Boysยดยด, was under a Conservatorship and how his guardian's goal was to keep him sick and overmedication, psychological abuse, financial control, etc.Actually his guardian ''Dr. Landy'' reminded me a lot of James, although I'm sure J. Spears was worse. If you haven't seen it, take a look at it to see how these criminal minds operate, you will feel very helpless watching this.ย ๐Ÿ’”

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2 hours ago, Steel Magnolia said:

Even ****-induced dementia?

All this tells me is that you are from a more civilized country than the US. I KNOW **** induced dementia is a real thing, but literally I have never heard this term before you said itโ€ฆso yes, I ๐Ÿ’ฏ% donโ€™t think Cali legislature differentiates by age if a dementia diagnosis is given.

BUT this is from first hand experience, which is inherently biased, but often true.

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Just now, RebellionSparkles said:

All this tells me is that you are from a more civilized country than the US. I KNOW **** induced dementia is a real thing, but literally I have never heard this term before you said itโ€ฆso yes, I ๐Ÿ’ฏ% donโ€™t think Cali legislature differentiates by age if a dementia diagnosis is given.

BUT this is from first hand experience, which is inherently biased, but often true.

This sounds angrier than I meant it to be.

my point is: the US suc.ksโ€ฆCali is bad to dementia patients.

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