Taylor Swift doesn't deserve the hate she gets and here's why

[MakeMeDoSomethin]

11 minutes ago, Style. said:

This is light drama compared to what people used to think about her back in the day. 

You must realize that this forum is a Britney Spears forum first, so the majority of us love and stan Britney. It’s ok to get mad when people try to say rude things about your other fave, but expect it. Everyone has their taste. I personally love Nicki and I used to take it so personally whenever I saw a thread about canceling Nicki, but then I realize that I say rude things about their fave too. 

I personally consider Taylor, Gaga, Katy, Nicki, Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney the most powerful pop stars ever so it’s natural for this feuds to exist between the fanbases. Geez, we’re talking about The Barbs, Swifties, Little Monsters, B-army, Bee-hiv(e)  Literally every one and their mother knows the power these fanbases hold. 

There were so many iconic, powerful popstars left out in that list so I'm hoping its just a short version of your full list- 

[Blackout2006]

On 9/3/2020 at 12:06 AM, Arcticlover said:

Taylor should be protected at all costs. Shes so precious.

I-

She is literally one of the smartest and clever women I have seen, she doesn't need any protection since she knows her game 

[Look But Don't Touch]

She sucks and she's overrarted af. Daddy bought her career 

[S jones]

she got nothing as compared to Britney. But she is a very nice person. I respect her, I hope she also join #freebritney moment soon. 

[Dahlia De Grant]

Literally never posted here but reading some of the negative comments about Taylor are INSANE and delusional. Ya'll need to reflect on where this deep rooted misogyny you have stems from because basically all the critiques you have of her are HELLA gross. 

[Dussiniers]

Bye Tyler Swing 

When is she comin back to country? 

[Greg_del]

Sorry but yes she deserves all the hate. She’s the modt overrated artist OF ALL TIME. If we were in the 80’s nobody would talk about her. She the epitoma of basic white bi***. Boring, untalented.

[PickleSpears]

I just have to LOL whenever people talk about how meaningful her lyrics are. To be fair, I've never listened to a Taylor Swift album, but none of her singles from her 100 albums have had amazing lyrics. They're always just mediocre or plain bad (Shake It Off, Me, etc). When people call her lyrics so amazing I can't help but think that those people are probably very basic and very easily entertained.

[NobodyKnowsPete]

On 9/2/2020 at 3:00 PM, InTheZone4Life said:

Taylor Swift has been cancelled and thrown into drama countless times. From the moment Kanye West took the stage in 2008 declaring that Beyoncé deserved the award that then 18-year-old Taylor had won rightfully. Kanye said that Beyoncé had one of the greatest videos of all time? That may be true, however that was not up for debate. The VMA's are fan voted. Taylor has been known for interacting with fans on a personal basis. She has paid off student loans, donated to sick fans, showed up at the hospital to play for some people, sent gifts to them near Christmas, and so many more things. She has EARNED her fan's love and support. She has invited them into her home for secret sessions to listen to her albums before they get wide released and guess what, the fans keep their lips SEALED. There is MUTUAL love and respect. When you love and support your fans, guess what? YOU WIN FAN VOTED AWARDS.

People continue to state that she is overrated. She has the most awarded pop album in history and the most awarded country album in history. In 2010, She was the youngest country artist, and the youngest artist in history, to win album of the year with Fearless. This is NOT a fan voted award. This was chosen by people who work in the industry. Yes, they've made mistakes before with their choices, however this was not one of them. Taylor has cowritten or written on every song she has released on any of her studio albums. That is an accomplishment that few artists can claim. That is not the mark of an overrated woman. That is the hard work of an accomplished artist. She has also had successful albums in three different genres thanks to her most recently released album, folklore, which is listed as an alternative album and has claimed the top spot of the Hot 200.

They say she causes drama, but she often doesn't start it. 

The Kanye incident in 2008? He walked up on stage. She didn't invite him.

The Kim Kardashian feud? She posted the videos on her snapchat story after Kanye recorded their call without her consent.

The Katy Perry drama? Katy hired dancers, that were currently touring with Taylor's highly acclaimed RED tour, to come dance for her.

Countless times, she has been shaded and dragged and she does what? Releases a song about her experiences? Guess who else does that? LITERALLY EVERY OTHER ARTIST.

You say she only writes breakup songs? Here is a list of songs from her 8 studio albums that she has released that are love songs or inspired by other things:

Taylor Swift: A Place In This World, The Outside, Tied Together With A Smile. Stay Beautiful, Mary's Song (Oh My My My), Our Song, I'm Only Me When I'm With You

Fearless: Fearless, Fifteen, Love Story, Hey Stephen, You Belong With Me, The Best Day, Change, Jump Then Fall, Superstar

Speak Now: Mine, Sparks Fly, Mean, Never Grow Up, Enchanted, Innocent, Long Live, Ours, Superman

RED: State of Grace, Treacherous, 22, Stay Stay Stay, Holy Ground, The Lucky One, Everything Has Changed, Starlight, Begin Again

1989: Welcome to New York, Blank Space, Style, Out of the Woods, Shake It Off, Bad Blood, This Love, Clean, You Are In Love, New Romantics

reputation: …Ready For It?, End Game, Delicate, Look What You Made Me Do, So It Goes..., Gorgeous, King of My Heart, Dress, This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things, Call It What You Want, New Year's Day

Lover: I Forgot That You Existed, Lover, The Man, The Archer, I Think He Knows, Paper Rings, Cornelia Street, London Boy, Soon You'll Get Better, False God, You Need to Calm Down, ME!, It's Nice to Have a Friend, Daylight

folklore: cardigan, the last great american dynasty, mirrorball, seven, invisible string, epiphany, peace

 

In 2015, She singlehandedly made Apple Music change their policy by calling them out on the policy they had of not paying artists for streams while users were still in their free trial. Make no mistake: brand new, little known artists that don't have much money were getting paid because SHE wrote an open letter to Apple about their policy. They changed it the same day. She refused to put her music on Spotify for the longest time in order to fight for them to change their policy on how much the artists, writers, producers, and others who contribute were compensated fairly. She is a force to be reckoned with. 

Do yourself a favor and dig deeper than the popular narrative of hating on Taylor. She doesn't deserve it. She is an artist, and she is working not only for herself but for your next favorite artist.

[TSmidnighTS]

Wow. The way yall came back to this MONTHS later after she had TWO of the best selling albums of 2020. She now has critically acclaimed albums in THREE DIFFERENT genres. To say she isn't talented or that she is overrated says more about you than it does her.

She is killing the game. No one has done quarantine like Taylor except maybe Dua (shoutout to @CrazyButItFeelsAllright  ) Haters can stay pressed.

[RadicalOptimism]

8 minutes ago, InTheZone4Life said:

Wow. The way yall came back to this MONTHS later after she had TWO of the best selling albums of 2020. She now has critically acclaimed albums in THREE DIFFERENT genres. To say she isn't talented or that she is overrated says more about you than it does her.

She is killing the game. No one has done quarantine like Taylor except maybe Dua (shoutout to @CrazyButItFeelsAllright  ) Haters can stay pressed.

I finally listened to evermore and a few tracks are already in my daily rotation 

[TSmidnighTS]

8 minutes ago, CrazyButItFeelsAllright said:

I finally listened to evermore and a few tracks are already in my daily rotation 

Which ones?! Please share!

[RadicalOptimism]

5 minutes ago, InTheZone4Life said:

Which ones?! Please share!

Willow, no body, no crime, gold rush, Long story short & ivy 

[DougFrmBrazil]

It’s not that we hate her she’s so bland. She’s not Madonna, Beyoncé, Britney, Cher and others.

[TSmidnighTS]

40 minutes ago, CrazyButItFeelsAllright said:

Willow, no body, no crime, gold rush, Long story short & ivy 

YASSS! The TASTE jumped out!

[TSmidnighTS]

31 minutes ago, DougFrmBrazil said:

It’s not that we hate her she’s so bland. She’s not Madonna, Beyoncé, Britney, Cher and others.

She definitely isn't any of those people. And if she tried to act like she was, y'all would have an issue of her trying to "copy them." You would complain about how she isn't doing it "as good as them." Seriously. Get a new line. She isn't those artists, she is her own person. She is carving out her OWN place in the music industry. We don't NEED another Madonna, Britney, Beyonce, or Cher. We need people like Taylor who are doing THEIR THING. And Taylor is and INCREDIBLE artist. Hit me up when Cher, Madonna, Beyonce, and Britney play the guitar, piano, banjo, etc and write on every single one of their songs.

[bitbitboi]

I..... respect her, I guess? But my sixth sense tells me I shouldn't trust her.

[DougFrmBrazil]

43 minutes ago, InTheZone4Life said:

She definitely isn't any of those people. And if she tried to act like she was, y'all would have an issue of her trying to "copy them." You would complain about how she isn't doing it "as good as them." Seriously. Get a new line. She isn't those artists, she is her own person. She is carving out her OWN place in the music industry. We don't NEED another Madonna, Britney, Beyonce, or Cher. We need people like Taylor who are doing THEIR THING. And Taylor is and INCREDIBLE artist. Hit me up when Cher, Madonna, Beyonce, and Britney play the guitar, piano, banjo, etc and write on every single one of their songs.

Yawn. Little white princess Tay Tay can’t be criticized? Just because she wrote every song she’s better than others? 
 

 Tell me a memorable or iconic performance or song of Taylor that is on people’s mind because the ones that I mentioned has a lot.

[DougFrmBrazil]

46 minutes ago, InTheZone4Life said:

She definitely isn't any of those people. And if she tried to act like she was, y'all would have an issue of her trying to "copy them." You would complain about how she isn't doing it "as good as them." Seriously. Get a new line. She isn't those artists, she is her own person. She is carving out her OWN place in the music industry. We don't NEED another Madonna, Britney, Beyonce, or Cher. We need people like Taylor who are doing THEIR THING. And Taylor is and INCREDIBLE artist. Hit me up when Cher, Madonna, Beyonce, and Britney play the guitar, piano, banjo, etc and write on every single one of their songs.

If she is not coping then why then she switched to pop music? Why didn’t she stuck with country music where she was already an established artist?

[TSmidnighTS]

7 minutes ago, DougFrmBrazil said:

Yawn. Little white princess Tay Tay can’t be criticized? Just because she wrote every song she’s better than others? 
 

 Tell me a memorable or iconic performance or song of Taylor that is on people’s mind because the ones that I mentioned has a lot.

 

5 minutes ago, DougFrmBrazil said:

If she is not coping then why then she switched to pop music? Why didn’t she stuck with country music where she was already an established artist?

I'm honestly tired of this discussion with you. I never said she can't be criticized. But the hate she gets constantly all the time is so toxic. This is the SAME toxic culture that wanted to see Britney fail and LOVED it when she "had a breakdown." They loved that moment because it gave them something to talk about.

Criticizing work out of good faith is fine, but asking why she decided to switch genres as if it wasn't something she isn't capable of wanting on her own? Like just because she switched to pop it HAS to be because she is trying to copy other people? That's disgusting and misogynistic. But go off I guess.

And I didn't say she was BETTER than the others, but you started to compare her to the others and saying she is "bland." The truth is there is no comparison because they have their own place in pop music which I already said. What i was saying to you is that she IS doing stuff that others can't do, and that makes her unique. Just because it isn't your "brand" of unique doesn't give you an excuse to be dismissive of someone's work.