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[Alexanda]

15 minutes ago, mauureee said:

8 pages because of the use of the word ********?

Britney herself called her ******** in a lot of tv appearences before, I think it can be used as "stupid"

maybe I'm wrong though english is not my first language 

English is not my first language as well, but in german it is the same, one word für disabled people and yeah they just use it also for stupid.

I think in english it is the same?

[Margaery]

16 minutes ago, button said:

Qu'est-ce-que tu racontes? Le mot en Anglais a aussi d'autres sens "dumb", "stupid" c'est tout comme en France avec "idiot". Mais l'origine du mot reste qu'on l'a utilisé en premier pour faire reference à ce genre de personnes (disabled). La différence c'est que je n'ai jamais entendu de médecins utiliser "débile mentale" ou "débile" pour désigner les patients.

Attardé par contre? Tout à fait. J'ai une une experience differente à la tienne.

Un médecin n'utilisera jamais ce mot pour désigner ses patients, ni personne d'ailleurs, par respect. C'est comme dire qu'un médecin anglophone désignerait ses patients en disant "********". 

Le mot débile  aussi on l'a utilisé pour désigner les handicapés mentaux, jusqu'a ce que ça soit repris dans le langage courant en tant qu'insulte et on a arrêté de le dire dans le milieu professionel. 

[Anti-Hero]

16 minutes ago, mauureee said:

8 pages because of the use of the word ********?

Britney herself called her ******** in a lot of tv appearences before, I think it can be used as "stupid"

maybe I'm wrong though english is not my first language 

It definitely is offensive, don’t let anyone make you think otherwise.

[Anti-Hero]

6 minutes ago, Alexanda said:

English is not my first language as well, but in german it is the same, one word für disabled people and yeah they just use it also for stupid.

I think in english it is the same?

Yes. And you just disproved @I Think I'm Ready Now’s dumb “different culture” argument 

[Lou M. Taylor]

14 minutes ago, Margaery said:

Un médecin n'utilisera jamais ce mot pour désigner ses patients, ni personne d'ailleurs, par respect. C'est comme dire qu'un médecin anglophone désignerait ses patients en disant "********". 

Le mot débile  aussi on l'a utilisé pour désigner les handicapés mentaux, jusqu'a ce que ça soit repris dans le language courant en tant qu'insulte et on a arrêté de le dire dans le milieu professionel. 

Non c'est faux et c'est justement ce que je viens de lui expliquer. Il n'y a pas de problème en Anglais quand tu utilises "********" sur une personnee handicapée. C'est quand tu utilises le mot "********" sur quelqu'un qui n'est pas atteint par cette condition mentale qu'il y a un problème.

Attardé est une référence directe au "******" mental dont les patients souffrent. C'est affreux de l'utiliser pour insulter. D'ailleurs tu viens de dire que le médecin ne l'utilisera jamais pour désigner les personnes en bonne santé mentale. Et bas pourquoi??? Parceque le mot est à l'origine reservé pour les malades! C'est pour ça que je ne suis pas d'accord avec l'usage du mot.

[Guest I Think I'm Ready Now]

15 minutes ago, danny1994 said:

Yes. And you just disproved @I Think I'm Ready Now’s dumb “different culture” argument 

English : ******** = common word for disabled, offensive as an insult

 

French : ******** = never used for disabled, but widely used as an insult

Cultural difference, now move on 

[Margaery]

2 minutes ago, button said:

Non c'est faux et c'est justement ce que je viens de lui expliquer. Il n'y a pas de problème en Anglais quand tu utilises "********" sur une personnee handicapée. C'est quand tu utilises le mot "********" sur quelqu'un qui n'est pas atteint par cette condition mentale qu'il y a un problème.

Bah pas en France en tout cas, un médecin pourrait être poursuivi en justice s'il utilisait ce mot.

7 minutes ago, button said:

Attardé est une référence directe au "******" mental dont les patients souffrent. C'est affreux de l'utiliser pour insulter. D'ailleurs tu viens de dire que le médecin ne l'utilisera jamais pour désigner quelqu'un d'autre? Et bas pourquoi??? Parceque le mot est à l'origine reservé pour les malades! C'est pour ça que je ne suis pas d'accord avec l'usage du mot.

Du coup il faudrait bannir les mots "idiot" "débile" et tous les autres insultes tirées du lexique de la médecine et des handicaps mentaux? Ca ne peut pas se faire et on ne peut pas juger les gens pour cela. 

[Lou M. Taylor]

4 minutes ago, I Think I'm Ready Now said:

English : ******** = common word for disabled, offensive as an insult

 

French : ******** = never used for disabled, but widely used as an insult

Cultural difference, now move on 

The fact that u think that using attardé is ok even though it's a reference to people having "un ****** mental" aka "a mental retardation". it's not even a subtle word that has a different letters/root

Get help sis

[Lou M. Taylor]

13 minutes ago, Margaery said:

Bah pas en France en tout cas, un médecin pourrait être poursuivi en justice s'il utilisait ce mot.

Du coup il faudrait bannir les mots "idiot" "débile" et tous les autres insultes tirées du lexique de la médecine et des handicaps mentaux? Ca ne peut pas se faire et on ne peut pas juger les gens pour cela. 

Alright i see, I'm just used to hearing attardé a lot from French-speaking doctors.

I'll just say that everyone else handled the issue better than France by condemning the use of the psychology term as an insult instead of fleeing and abandoning the use of said word in their work. I guarantee that i've heard plenty of times "handicapé" used as an insult.

It still shocks me that "attardé" is used casually since it's so close to that certain family of words. (****** mental  ect)

[Guest I Think I'm Ready Now]

17 minutes ago, button said:

The fact that u think that using attardé is ok even though it's a reference to people having "un ****** mental" aka "a mental retardation". it's not even a subtle word that has a different letters/root

Get help sis

Its ok for everyone here, 7 million people, should we all get help ? 

 

[Shadow.]

19 minutes ago, I Think I'm Ready Now said:

English : ******** = common word for disabled, offensive as an insult

 

French : ******** = never used for disabled, but widely used as an insult

Cultural difference, now move on 

****** is offensive language. There is no excuse and 'cultural difference' is bullshit, you knew it was offensive  

[Anti-Hero]

3 minutes ago, I Think I'm Ready Now said:

Its ok for everyone here, 7 million people, should we all get help ? 

 

They should get educated 

[Guest I Think I'm Ready Now]

11 minutes ago, Shadow. said:

****** is offensive language. There is no excuse and 'cultural difference' is bullshit, you knew it was offensive  

No since it is not here 

[Guest I Think I'm Ready Now]

8 minutes ago, danny1994 said:

They should get educated 

Why ? The word has a different meaning to us, get over it.

[Margaery]

3 minutes ago, button said:

Alright i see, I'm just used to hearing attardé a lot from French-speaking doctors.

I'll just say that everyone else handled the issue better than France by condemning the use of the psychology term as an insult instead of fleeing and abandoning the use of said word in their work.  

Not only France, every French-speaking country in Europe + Québec. I'm sure it's the same for a lot of languages (a German exhaler told me it was the same in his language).

14 minutes ago, button said:

I guarantee that i've heard plenty of times "handicapé" used as an insult.

So do I except doctors and scientists use that word in their work, and I'm against using it as an insult. 

[Shadow.]

Just now, I Think I'm Ready Now said:

No since it is not here 

Sure it isn't  you can speak for your entire country?

[Anti-Hero]

2 minutes ago, I Think I'm Ready Now said:

Why ? The word has a different meaning to us, get over it.

You keep saying that. It’s used as “stupid” and “dumb”.

But the majority of Americans that say it also use it that way. And it’s wrong here too. It’s actually used the same way in your country as my country, but we have the common decency to tell people it’s wrong 

[Guest I Think I'm Ready Now]

6 minutes ago, Shadow. said:

Sure it isn't  you can speak for your entire country?

The word is used by everyone, its a synonym of stupid and does not make us think about disabled people 

Ask french people here 

[Lou M. Taylor]

6 minutes ago, Margaery said:

Not only France, every French-speaking country in Europe + Québec. I'm sure it's the same for a lot of languages (a German exhaler told me it was the same in his language).

i just hope u 2 are being sincere and not just helping each other out of this thread. and No don't speak for every French speaking country in Europe. I mean the case in France makes sense if i go by ur claims that attardé isn't used in the psychology field, dunno about german.

6 minutes ago, Margaery said:

So do I except doctors and scientists use that word in their work, and I'm against using it as an insult. 

Yes, just like "********" was handled. Keep refering to ACTUAL ******** people as "********" and prohibit the usage of the word with negative connotations/as an insult. thats how it should be. Not abandon the word and jump to another one.

[Shadow.]

Just now, danny1994 said:

You keep saying that. It’s used as “stupid” and “dumb”.

But the majority of Americans that say it also use it that way. And it’s wrong here too. It’s actually used the same way in your country as my country, but we have the common decency to tell people it’s wrong 

This. I can't believe its went on for 9 pages. Its not a difficult concept, its offensive ANYWHERE, just don't use that language. But they probably don't care that its offensive toward disabled persons