I feel like "Oops" has been a lie...

[Shadow.]

4 hours ago, Puppy said:

At least the common thing is that Max makes her do it many times and demands perfection even Britney said it.

 

I guess there is a reason he has produced so many hits and we can't deny his talent but man that must be so stifiling to work with especially since britney herself was restricted from her own creative vision most of her career, its understandable why she didn't work with him for ITZ & blackout

[SumoCyco2017]

13 hours ago, Shadow. said:

I guess there is a reason he has produced so many hits and we can't deny his talent but man that must be so stifiling to work with especially since britney herself was restricted from her own creative vision most of her career, its understandable why she didn't work with him for ITZ & blackout

And somehow they ended up being 2 of the Holy Trinity, whoda thunk it. Getting away from the slave master and genius happens

[DollyParton]

The whole Britney Spears brand is a lie. 

[Puppy]

On 7/23/2022 at 10:20 PM, Shadow. said:

I guess there is a reason he has produced so many hits and we can't deny his talent but man that must be so stifiling to work with especially since britney herself was restricted from her own creative vision most of her career, its understandable why she didn't work with him for ITZ & blackout

Yeah I understand why he is talented but yeah…it’s not like it’s all rainbows working with him. I think there is an interview he did that he liked working with Britney as she is young and mold able. 

[floopy22]

On 7/19/2022 at 7:31 PM, Puppy said:

This reminds me when Cyndi Lauper said Max Martin would make Britney sing every word so he can splice together a perfect take.

Cyndi Lauper is a lazy, off-pitch singing hag who doesn't know what she is talking about.

Comping together several takes is standard practice and some producers do it more (like Max Martin) and some do it to a lesser extent.

I can guarantee you no one is recording vocals word by word and then splicing it together, as that would sound very disjointed (Like the 'Mannequin' verses where this was done intentionally).

 

 

[JackSProductions]

On 7/19/2022 at 10:58 AM, studlygeorge said:

Also you have to remember that this album was extremely rushed

This bit specifically is very important, she was only in Sweden for like a week in November and that’s where a large amount of songs was recorded. That’s basically a song a day.

[Perfect nordin]

On 7/19/2022 at 2:26 PM, BritneyGuy said:

There you go...

 

Wow

[MikeHunt]

Beyoncé doesn’t need all this vocal production. All these Britney exposing threads have opened my eyes to what I hadn’t noticed. Thank you for this thread! I’m in the BeyHive now! 

[MikeHunt]

4 hours ago, floopy22 said:

 

I can guarantee you no one is recording vocals word by word and then splicing it together, as that would sound very disjointed (Like the 'Mannequin' verses where this was done intentionally).

 

 

Not true

 

[Risorius]

1 hour ago, JackSProductions said:

This bit specifically is very important, she was only in Sweden for like a week in November and that’s where a large amount of songs was recorded. That’s basically a song a day.

Strange to now know that the quality of her most iconic album was compromised and rushed.

[Louis-j]

21 minutes ago, MikeHunt said:

Beyoncé doesn’t need all this vocal production. All these Britney exposing threads have opened my eyes to what I hadn’t noticed. Thank you for this thread! I’m in the BeyHive now! 

We love a fitness queen. 

[MikeHunt]

13 minutes ago, Louis-j said:

We love a fitness queen. 

Yaaas! She’s always been so fit! 

[GregReid]

On 7/19/2022 at 3:31 AM, Sia said:

I'm sure you're listening to something else. You can HEAR the pitch correction and it's most noticeable in that her entire tone changes when the note hits. You can hear the slide where the autotune kicks in. Also, a vocoder doesn't correct pitch, it modulates the voice to give it a synthetic sound. 

The pitch correction doesn't bother me as much as the long notes not even being real. Granted it was late 1999/early 2000 when they produced it, but it clearly was not done smoothly lol.

 

I can't help but agree with you, in particular it's the chorus B 'send from aboo-o-o-o-o-o-ve'

[floopy22]

On 7/26/2022 at 12:35 AM, MikeHunt said:

Not true

 

That doesn't contradict what I said though?

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

I noticed this too, and thought it was unusual at first, but I think its important to remember that at that point in the song, Britney is adlibbing, that vocal layer is at the very back, probably to give the backing vocals more a Britney touch.

[asitalian12587]

On 7/19/2022 at 2:53 PM, halfdressed said:

This song is a ******* masterpiece. Objectively lol. It’s so good. If anything these stems make me respect the song even more. I (thought I had) have a keen ear but I have never heard some of these sounds within the master. 

same here, i listened to the stems and was like ooook britney with that control. i think she sounds great

[asitalian12587]

On 7/25/2022 at 12:15 PM, Puppy said:

Yeah I understand why he is talented but yeah…it’s not like it’s all rainbows working with him. I think there is an interview he did that he liked working with Britney as she is young and mold able. 

but lets be honest here, he said many GREAT things about britney. how professional she is, how GOOD she is in the studio, how diligent, how talented, etc. i appreciate people like him that make sure to give britney credit because people tend to **** on her vocal abilities and hes always defended just how good hers are.

[TheGrandeLife]

Well guys the stems are great but not genuine. What's making me saying that is that I did extract and put various versions of the song on IA platforms and guess what ? There's layers that aren't in the pack.

Some notes that are sounding way produced in the pack that seems way less in IA extracted sounds I have (but that are noisy). So I'm assuming the pack was also "produced". It's not like raw vocals neither genuine stems. But 22 years after we can finally hear some sounds we couldn't till now.

Stems we do not have by examples :

- Piano and harpsichord or organ (yes there is with interesting textures added to the song). The piano is so dramatic and give a darker version of the song.

- Some vocals like at last chorus are well hidden like "did it again from above I'm not that innocent" (sung by background singers).

- Sound that underline the "did it again" in last chorus (that you can hear only when the song is ultra filtered).

- The kind of strings (sort of whistle) we can hear easily in the begining of bye bye bye that is hidden all over oops.

- The oops oops hidden you can hear in the old incomplete acappella version we had to live with all these years.

- The strings that you can hear in the dialog part (that are neither included in the official instrumental version).

And so much more.

What I can say on Britney's vocals in that pack they have been filtered (very well made but not perfect). I can say that the DWAD rock version is having the exact same high note "above" as the studio version and yeah it's not raw but it's not as damaged as in the pack...

Not saying it's not an overproduced song, just saying it's ia filtered pack and not coming from masters.