Court Transcript of Meet & Confer, Mathew Rosengart vs Alex Weingarten

[Cqleb]

The new transcript from May 23, 2022. #justiceforbritney 🙏✊

 

Edited June 17, 2022 by Caleb Ellis

[Oliver_]

I need someone to read this to me 

[ivosoares]

I'm in the last two pages, and believe me, this is gold entertainment. No seriously, this is crazy, you have to read it all. Rosengart and Weingarten (Jamie's lawyer) are catfighting for real.

[rennen2.0]

Neither of them came off very well. They kept interrupting each other, and Rosengart was particularly bad for it. Although towards the end it seemed like Rosengart had the upper hand when Weingarten hurried off the call.  

[ivosoares]

There's a lot of things we learn from this transcript.

Jamie's Lawyers already gave documents, like 100.000 documents and communications already to Rosengart, but Rosengart is asking for the communications and documents between Jamie and Tri Star (LouLou), and BlackBox security which conventiently are nowhere to be seen. 

So it's basically Rosengart asking Jamie's lawyer like 'Where are those documents' and Jamie's lawyer deflecting the question and not answering for three hours, and them fighting and always interrupting each other, and getting mad about it. It was a disaster, but it answered the question clearly: They don't want to give Tri Star and Black Box Security communications, and that's sus obviously.

In those documents there must be proof of surveillance, and corruption and all of that stuff that we all know and speak about all the time.

This is going to still drag for some years let me tell you that, Jamie is not gonna give up easily, until his colon just bursts hopefully, sorry not sorry

[RebellionSparkles]

Oh s.hit! Big Sloppy confirmed to the times that Jamie had borrowed the $40k from Tri Star! That’s 🍵

[Headed Peckerhead]

This is on fire 💥, and July is almost around the corner....  #BurnThemAllRosengart 

[Oliver_]

20 minutes ago, ivosoares said:

They don't want to give Tri Star and Black Box Security communications, and that's sus obviously.

Those communications would reveal everything 

[BringTheAction]

I didn’t know there was a “is typing…” section that showed when someone is replying haha 

[MikeHunt]

Couldn’t they have destroyed all documents concerning TriStar and Black Box? It’s not right, but what’s holding them to be honest and forthright? It seems like Team Con can hold out forever and none of them will ever face any consequences. 

[Lola2790]

Just now, MikeHunt said:

Couldn’t they have destroyed all documents concerning TriStar and Black Box? It’s not right, but what’s holding them to be honest and forthright? It seems like Team Con can hold out forever and none of them will ever face any consequences. 

They undoubtedly have. 

But Rosengart will then use their omission of those communications as evidence in the trial. And let's not forget the whistleblower has a lot of saved emails. 

[easy]

rosengart remains an incredible lawyer, while jamie's relies on intimidation and spinning the narrative which he isn't even good at that either. 

[RebellionSparkles]

Ohhh snap. Jamie is never going to hand over those docs. It sounds like Rosengart already has them, but not officially handed over from Jamie’s team.

I need a legal break down from Emily D Baker or That Surprise Witness!

[Applejack]

18 minutes ago, RebellionSparkles said:

Ohhh snap. Jamie is never going to hand over those docs. It sounds like Rosengart already has them, but not officially handed over from Jamie’s team.

I need a legal break down from Emily D Baker or That Surprise Witness!

rosengart is saying specifically Tri Star and Black Box (and Jamie's counsel) documents. Weingarten is defaulting to Freeman, Freeman and Smile and Holland and Knight documents. They're not handing the Black Box stuff and the Tri Star stuff is a mess (Rosengart mentioned about Tri Star documents being incomplete such as... the accountings, and the fact no one could produce a contract). That's what I understand.

[ivosoares]

Weingarten kept saying ‘If my client has done corruption prove it!’ And Rosengart like ‘Yeah I would like to, but you have the evidence’ 

they probably destroyed the communications for sure, isn’t that illegal? To destroy documents and communications as a fiduciary? 

[ivosoares]

I don’t think it’s fair at all, but it’s going to be hard to prove these corruptions to the court, they need documents and evidence and Rosengart maybe doesn’t have, because they’re still hidden. And even so, if the court is going to charge Jamie for the corruption, what about the courts approval of everything throughout the Conservatorship? They are responsible and liable as well 

[s&m]

2 minutes ago, ivosoares said:

Weingarten kept saying ‘If my client has done corruption prove it!’ And Rosengart like ‘Yeah I would like to, but you have the evidence’ 

they probably destroyed the communications for sure, isn’t that illegal? To destroy documents and communications as a fiduciary? 

Yes but fortunately Rosengart was a prosecutor and he knows how to deal with it 

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

45 minutes ago, MikeHunt said:

Couldn’t they have destroyed all documents concerning TriStar and Black Box? It’s not right, but what’s holding them to be honest and forthright? It seems like Team Con can hold out forever and none of them will ever face any consequences. 

Jamie has no right to withhold documents, or privacy regarding any actions he took while in the position of conservator. He was basically acting as an extension of the courts, in the role of conservator and not as an individual. Any subsequent replacement holds the rights to view those documents as they belong to the position, not the person.

If Jamie is withholding documents, he has failed the courts. If Jame has destroyed documents, he has failed the courts. Ultimately, he has a responsibility to give the courts and estate the documents...

 

....his refusal is damning.

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

6 minutes ago, ivosoares said:

I don’t think it’s fair at all, but it’s going to be hard to prove these corruptions to the court, they need documents and evidence and Rosengart maybe doesn’t have, because they’re still hidden. And even so, if the court is going to charge Jamie for the corruption, what about the courts approval of everything throughout the Conservatorship? They are responsible and liable as well 

Not necessarily. They have the recordings, which break laws. They have the loan, which is a conflict of interest. They have the lack of a declaration, which is proof in itself that there was fault, and they have enough witness testimony to verify the abuse.

[MikeHunt]

16 minutes ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

Jamie has no right to withhold documents, or privacy regarding any actions he took while in the position of conservator. He was basically acting as an extension of the courts, in the role of conservator and not as an individual. Any subsequent replacement holds the rights to view those documents as they belong to the position, not the person.

If Jamie is withholding documents, he has failed the courts. If Jame has destroyed documents, he has failed the courts. Ultimately, he has a responsibility to give the courts and estate the documents...

 

....his refusal is damning.

I completely understand what you’re saying but I mean he keeps getting away with evading the process. I guess as a Britney fan, I just get tired of seeing these people walk away from the situation with their hands clean, when I’m reality, they should be sued and placed in jail.