MDNA and Lotus should've been released in 2011

[PokemonSpears]

That's the thread

 

jk, but for real, I was listening to some 2011 playlist, and I remembered how I used to think back then that we were only missing Madonna and Christina Aguilera. Xtina did release Moves like Jagger, but I feel like Your Body, Let There Be Love would've been awesome in 2011 along with everything else that was playing that year. Same with Madonna's Give Me All Your Luvin and Girl Gone Wild.

 

[~ l o n d o n ~]

honestly MDNA really isnt as bad as people try and make it out to be. Its a bit basic by Madonnas standards but still a good album

 

Your Body was one of the best songs of the last decade FACT

[Stefani]

I don't see how a year would've made a difference. I hated Lotus and wasn't fond of MDNA either, so my opinions on them would remain the same.

[phinyls]

correction: MDNA should've never been released at all 

[PokemonSpears]

5 minutes ago, Stefani said:

I don't see how a year would've made a difference. I hated Lotus and wasn't fond of MDNA either, so my opinions on them would remain the same.

I've always thought the context of when an album or single are released also matters. Like, yes, you can just pick an album and judge it on its own, encapsulated just by what it is, but most of the times we consume something along with everything else we're listening to at the time. That's why I think you can't just get an album you never listened to when it came out, and judge it years later, without having all the context of what all the other artists were releasing back then. I mean, you can lol but it's never gonna be the same. 

And yes, you can still totally say that even compared to what was out in 2011, you still wouldn't like it, and that's fair. 

 

For example to me Femme Fatale and Born This Way will always go hand in hand, because I was listening to both at the same time. I can see me listening to Lotus too and enjoying it so much more then, than in 2012 when the music scene was so boring. At least compared to the singles that all the pop acts were putting out. Maybe I won't compare the full album, but I could totally see Your Body being played at my high school cafeteria (when I was still in high school) and everyone enjoying it as we did all the Gaga, Britney, Beyonce, Katy Perry songs that were coming out at the time. Same with Give Me All Your Luvin too. But in 2012 it just felt like they were just too late to the party. 

With the same example, if Born This Way came out in 2012 or any other year, chances are I wouldn't even had dared to listen to it. 

[I Always Sing Live]

Kinda weird how so many pop girlies released their worst work in 2012/2013. Basic Jingles, MDNA, Stars Dance, Lotus, etc. The only notable thing about those two years was Lana's and Lorde's debuts.

[IStandByWhatISaid]

Your Body should have been BIG, also, the explicit version is better 

[kevin.]

6 minutes ago, I Always Sing Live said:

Kinda weird how so many pop girlies released their worst work in 2012/2013. Basic Jingles, MDNA, Stars Dance, Lotus, etc. The only notable thing about those two years was Lana's and Lorde's debuts.

Those really have aged well too.

 

 

All the other albums, even Born this way, are albums I haven't listened to in over 5 years.

This was such a dull time in pop music. 

and i think Bionic is way better than Lotus. 

[gapeach704]

Um.  Lotus could've been released by Adele and it still would've tanked. 

As far as MDNA, I don't know her.  I don't acknowledge any Madonna albums after Confessions 

[Haha-Hehe-Haha-Ho]

Idk if I'm being that obnoxious guy that thinks everything counts as copying but it'd be kinda ridic to see Xtina promoting Your Body alongside Britney's HIAM; two paint-splattering dubstep tinged pick-up songs. Too blatantly overlappy for one year imo. 

[I Always Sing Live]

25 minutes ago, Kevney said:

Those really have aged well too.

 

 

All the other albums, even Born this way, are albums I haven't listened to in over 5 years.

This was such a dull time in pop music. 

and i think Bionic is way better than Lotus. 

Born This Way suffers from being too long and samey at times (17 tracks on the deluxe, and a lot of them are on the longer side). It's a good album, and I love how ambitious it is, but it takes a lot of mental energy to get myself to listen to it.

[jordeezy river red]

Lotus was headed in the right direction but there's something weird about the mastering on that album - gives me a headache. 

[comeback kid]

When I first heard “Your Body” I was like “yep Christina has a hit. This is going to be her comeback song “ and I was so sad when it lowkey flopped. 

[princessmimi]

I agree!

They definitely has that early 2010s EDM techno dance vibe to it

that was so popular back in the day!

Oh the memories! 

[JayTawndre]

Love both of those records. Lotus is one of my favorite Legendtina albums 

[senammoises]

12 hours ago, gapeach704 said:

Um.  Lotus could've been released by Adele and it still would've tanked. 

As far as MDNA, I don't know her.  I don't acknowledge any Madonna albums after Confessions 

Rebel Heart is great. Hard Candy is good imo

[NobodyKnowsPete]

They were released at the right time, but Madonna and Christina didn’t make the right moves.

In my opinion MDNA is not that bad, it has bops, but it’s clear that it could be better if Madonna weren’t so busy trying to prove that she can direct a movie. Wrong singles except for “Girl Gone Wild”.

 

[michael1814]

Had Christina released the explicit version as well it would have pushed digital sales but first week by probably 50%, had she performed it in The Voice on release week it would have pushed it as well… it not being performed was a nightmare.

it was the hit she let flop due to no effect.

[BUWYGF]

I think Lotus was just a weak album, regardless of the year. Half of songs sound unfinished and it's just...it has no character whatsoever. MDNA is a genuinely cool album IMO, not something you would expect from Madonna in a traditional sense, but it's filled with bops I enjoy listening even nowadays  

[descg]

MDNA is the worst album of Madonna and im a stan of Xtina but Lotus the worst album of her.

Also another thing, for me the problem with Rebel Heart is similar to Bionic, too long and over the place, but i like Rebel heart there are some good songs (the album name track a bonus of deluxe??? and is so good) and I love Bionic.