Iexpectyouto Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 what do yall even mean "downfall"? she's still v successful for someone who is in the 20th year of their career and has not had an aggressive marketing scheme in more than half a decade. she still has a very strong brand name, sells tickets, and generates press with her appearances. the Britney era did not flop. it sold less than BOMT and OIDIA, but that was almost a given. 13 million copies isnt bad. the singles did poorly because of the radio ban and her label not releasing physical singles. Link to comment
Cappycorn87 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Spearsfan said: Her era is doing great. I’m not a fan but you are delusional How is her current single doing? Link to comment
Inherzone Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just watch "Stages" and u will see something was off. Link to comment
Kiiddy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Things didn't take a proper toll until she broke her leg, cancelled the Onyx Hotel tour and then was seen with Kevin. Its from there when step by step, things became difficult within her career and things in general just weren't going well at all. Before then she was still slaying it with promo, performances, music videos and her tour. The Britney era wasn't a beginning of a downfall. It quite simply was where she started to experience her first real scandals and where things just didn't go as well as planned or as expected. The cancellation of tour dates, comparisons of previous album sales with sales of her 3rd album release, negative reviews of Crossroads, tabloid drama over her split with JT, and the radio ban all played a part as fine examples. Some seem to think that she was tarnished after her split with JT, but that's not exactly true. People just think that because she was viewed as America's Sweetheart during her first two albums and had an almost perfect reputation and image. When the Britney era came around, Britney had evolved into a more ****, daring pop star that pushed the enveloper (while still young) with a more R&B sound all while going through a scandalous split with JT through the Britney era, which for the first time had an actual real negative effect upon her strong reputation and career. Her reputation may have gone from squeaky clean, to controversial and mixed since her split with JT, but it wasn't tarnished like it was during her breakdown. Britney was still very popular and in demand. Getting involved with Kevin and everything after is where it all spiraled down and went out of control. That was the beginning where it made things so bad for Britney to the point where she had to go down the 'comeback and reformed' route to brush away the past and get back to the top. The Britney era was just the first time where the world saw Britney's career, music sales and personal life not seem so perfect and run so smoothly or successfully. Her involvement with Kevin and everything after is what made things go downwards in all areas though. Also her 3rd album did not flop either. Just because it didn't meet expectations, or sell as much as her previous albums, doesn't make it a flop at all. Link to comment
Spearsfan Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Cappycorn87 said: How is her current single doing? They are selling the album not the singles. The album is slaying left and right. Link to comment
Cappycorn87 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Spearsfan said: They are selling the album not the singles. The album is slaying left and right. The singles should be too, now where is her current single at on the chart? Link to comment
onetwothreeume Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 you know, she’s a human just like everyone else and she makes mistakes Link to comment
PoshSpice Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 This is gonna sound sad, but when she got pregnant and onwards 2007, her personal life was a mess and that was pretty much when majority fans (and GP especially) abandoned as well, it was a lot to recover from from there on and she has really changed since then too. I am firm believer had her albums from then on happened to 2000-2003 Britney they would have been way bigger than what they we got them to be. In the zone - absofuckinlutely not. I was present during that era, the only reason her sales were declining because of competition at that time (it was enormous) and her change of sound into more mature, but her the awards, huge promo, sold out shows, merch, Toxic, she was all people talked and breathed every moment of the day. Her daily life was followed in every first page of every tabloid. Britney Spears went to poop and you knew about it. Quote Her era is doing great. I’m not a fan but you are delusional Okay I am a fan, I met her, swiftie forever 5ever and what not, and she's doing ****. She did no promo for her album and I can't even sell my damn ticket (I got excited and bought a few) right by the stage for what I actually paid for in a freakin Rose Bowl. #bitter Link to comment
81. Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Well, people have always enjoyed being witnesses of someone’s fall. So, I’d say that her decline started the moment she turned into a celebrity. However, I think this is more complex that it seems. In fact, I think it involves different variables (internal/external) that affected directly to britney’s career, private life and legacy. Link to comment
b42ad Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 On 07/03/2018 at 3:52 AM, Dirk said: 2002: Justin broke up with her, she allegedly cheated on him, wasn't considered a role model anymore (also her parents divorced too, she was fragile on tour). 2003: Party hard, started smoking and abusing alcohol, her image was changing, too ****** (society back then and still is today (but waking) against a woman being that liberated) 2004: K-Fed/Chaotic happened, media was harsh on her because K-fed girl was pregnant and he was trash, started experimenting weed with husband, broken knee and canceled a tour. 2005: White trash, she almost dropped Sean Preston on the street, magazines picked on her and a lot of bad rumors, the peak was the Matt Lauer interview where she looked lost, miserable, considered white trash and with a failing marriage. 2006: another child but she dropped K-fed at the end of the year, people started having some hopes on her and started to understand her fragile state of mind. 2007: party hard with Paris Hilton, neglected her kids according to the media and K-fed, lost custody, umbrella, failed VMA performance and the rest you know. 2008: c-ship. etc. Actually, it was 6 years of abuse! from people around her, media, everything... a lot of ups and downs. NOT EASY tbh. omg, I love her, such a strong woman! You have the dates wrong on a lot of these points Link to comment
Spearsfan Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/6/2018 at 9:35 PM, PoshSpice said: This is gonna sound sad, but when she got pregnant and onwards 2007, her personal life was a mess and that was pretty much when majority fans (and GP especially) abandoned as well, it was a lot to recover from from there on and she has really changed since then too. I am firm believer had her albums from then on happened to 2000-2003 Britney they would have been way bigger than what they we got them to be. In the zone - absofuckinlutely not. I was present during that era, the only reason her sales were declining because of competition at that time (it was enormous) and her change of sound into more mature, but her the awards, huge promo, sold out shows, merch, Toxic, she was all people talked and breathed every moment of the day. Her daily life was followed in every first page of every tabloid. Britney Spears went to poop and you knew about it. Okay I am a fan, I met her, swiftie forever 5ever and what not, and she's doing ****. She did no promo for her album and I can't even sell my damn ticket (I got excited and bought a few) right by the stage for what I actually paid for in a freakin Rose Bowl. #bitter Doesn’t matter if she did zero promo, her album still is doing great. She probably will be on best sellers this year for her album from last year. If it’s a single ticket those are obviously hard to sell Link to comment
Just Because Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Life is a journey, not a destination. Link to comment
zutu Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 06/03/2018 at 5:22 AM, Cappycorn87 said: Taylor Swift is mediocre as **** and her latest era not doing too well As well as can be expected for someone doing absolute zero promo. Britney's impact. Link to comment
BOBIBCFBG Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Kevin Federline ruined her life. Link to comment
Rachel Green Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 In 2001 she started getting a lot more backlash for the shift in her image and music but I think she still had that baby/oops eras cute side of her people still bought, especially in interviews. The break up with Justin and the cheating rumours had a lot more people turn their back on her. She pushed the **** side a lot more for ITZ, quit the whole sweet innocent image and things like when she talked politics or so probably didn’t help. Still, she had a huge fan base behind her and her sales and chart numbers show. When she started dating Kevin and she married him 4 months later she became a joke to a big part of the GP imo. I think most people thought she was straight white trash. And then the time when Preston almost falls and when she drove with him on her lap made her seem like a bad mother when she was just unexperienced and making mistakes I’m sure most mothers do. When she filled for divorce in Nov 2006 people were rooting for her but then she started partying and doing stupid s--t and well.. the rest is history Link to comment
Queen'sGuard Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 We all talk about her downfall like she hasn't done anything iconic in the last ten years which isn't true. She may not be in her prime, but she didn't die. Link to comment
brit4u1998 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 For me, it was the 55 hour marriage in January of 2004. Something about it felt really off, even though I loved/love Britney. To me, it symbolized a loss of innocence in her world. Link to comment
ElenaB Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 never understood the hate she got from the marriage to Jason Alexander. She was just being young and careless after years of hard work. I get that it broke her perfect image but she did nothing wrong. Actually she’s never done anything wrong, the gp just loved to critize her. Link to comment
MeAgainstTheMusic_ Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I think her downfall was her split from JT in 2002 and the rumours that she was a cheat. The media were looking for an excuse to drag her down with her **** image so now they had something to feed on. I don’t think she was ever the same after her breakup from JT. Deep down I think she ran from it for years. The whole K-Fed relationship stemmed from JT. Link to comment
Blackout2006 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 3/6/2018 at 3:52 AM, IconicShow said: Britney's 3rd album flopped On 3/6/2018 at 4:53 AM, WhatEverYouWant said: The downfall commercially started with Britney (album) Lets get **** straight... Britney WASNT a flop! It is her third most successful era! Receipts? First week sales: 745,000 copies sold Decrease percentage from last album (OIDIA): 56.52% drop in sales Artist that have managed to sell 1 million in their first week, have an album after it that faces a 70%-90% decrease in sales. Britney become the first female artist to have 3 consecutive No.1 albums, that too 3 consecutive albums with 500k sales and above Britney managed to sell 7 million copies by the end of the 2001, and was the second-best selling female album of 2001 The only reasons the Britney singles didnt chart high was because of the radio ban she had from 2001-2004, but internationally the songs were HUGE hits, with Slave 4 U going top 10 in 25 different countries, No.4 in the Billboard Dance-Pop Chart and even has sold nearly 4 million singles and above. Overprotected was a top 10 hit in 16 countries whereas even Not a girl not yet a woman was a Top 3 hit in 8 countries. Also if we add single sales, TSPC and CSPC to Britneys pure sales... I'm a Slave 4 u- 3,900,000 Overprotected- 1,620,000 Im Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman- 1,800,000 I Love Rock N' Roll- 1,000,000 Anticipating- 150,000 Boys- 1,250,000 OTHER TRACKS: 550,000 Britney (album) sales- 20 million copies (confirmed by JIVE ) Total Era Sales- 29,720,000 Thats nearly 30 million era sales! So how is this according to you a flop? The album was far from a flop, and the media said such crap like that because they were on Justins side when they broke up, and they would do anything to tear Britney up. ITZ too was a huge hit, so that album too wasnt a flop. Thus, she started declining only after the chaotic era started Link to comment
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