Biden: “what’s happening is NOT a genocide”

trip to my touch · May 29

3 minutes ago, itswwasheem***** said:

Sorry it was u who were calling people islamist

the ones that share their hateful points of view, yes. all the others: muslims

bbbsss · May 29

2 hours ago, trip to my touch said:

we all see thats your dearest wish - THATS the antisemitic part about it.

but dont worry its far from beeing (only in your pseudo wannabe leftist bubble)

GENOCIDE.

Now go jump off a cliff for all I care and grab Biden and Netanyahu with you. You are useless to humanity anyway.

bbbsss · May 29

2 hours ago, trip to my touch said:

we all see thats your dearest wish - THATS the antisemitic part about it.

but dont worry its far from beeing (only in your pseudo wannabe leftist bubble)

My mother and great-grandmother are Jewish and I carry their last name, Eidelman, so save your antisemitism card for someone else, cause it won’t work with me.

:chrissy_xtina_head_tilt_purse_sass:

My heritage aside, I am a person who understands right from wrong, which clearly you don’t, and I stand by my words that what the Israeli government is currently doing constitutes crimes against humanity, and yes, it's called a GENOCIDE. You can save your efforts trying to convince me otherwise, I truly don’t give two f’s about your opinion, as it is worthless anyway. Netanyahu and Biden are responsible for a GENOCIDE in Gaza, and Israel will absolutely never recover from this. I hope that both face the severest punishment possible, and I'm confident that they will. It's only a matter of time, but you are on the wrong side of history and simply disgusting and embarrassing.

trip to my touch · May 29

50 minutes ago, bbbsss said:

GENOCIDE.

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Now go jump off a cliff for all I care and grab Biden and Netanyahu with you. You are useless to humanity anyway.

lol look whos talking. surprised you even seem to be able to read - or is someone helping you here

trip to my touch · May 29

22 minutes ago, bbbsss said:

My mother and great-grandmother are Jewish and I carry their last name, Eidelman, so save your antisemitism card for someone else, cause it won’t work with me.

My heritage aside, I am a person who understands right from wrong, which clearly you don’t, and I stand by my words that what the Israeli government is currently doing constitutes crimes against humanity, and yes, it's called a GENOCIDE. You can save your efforts trying to convince me otherwise, I truly don’t give two f’s about your opinion, as it is worthless anyway. Netanyahu and Biden are responsible for a GENOCIDE in Gaza, and Israel will absolutely never recover from this. I hope that both face the severest punishment possible, and I'm confident that they will. It's only a matter of time, but you are on the wrong side of history and simply disgusting and embarrassing.

lol soooo brainwashed.

and if you say and believe antisemtic things you are one. just as easy and obvious as the fact that its no genocide.

LoveYourselfMas · May 29

I don’t understand why the Jews invaded Palestine. I wish all countries could work together to build them an island and they can have land and live there peacefully.

do not slaughter other countries do not invade Palestine or the Middle East. That area is full thank you. I wish Atlantis was real then they can move there. :/

trip to my touch · May 29

2 minutes ago, LoveYourselfMas said:

I don’t understand why the Jews invaded Palestine. I wish all countries could work together to build them an island and they can have land and live there peacefully.

do not slaughter other countries do not invade Palestine or the Middle East. That area is full thank you. I wish Atlantis was real then they can move there. :/

its not ´´the jews`` - israel is the only multiculti country in the whole region.

to get rid of hamas (as all the arab countries around dont seem to care or even fund islamist terror - looking at iran). nobody in general has an interest in the dry desert.

LoveYourselfMas · May 29

36 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

its not ´´the jews`` - israel is the only multiculti country in the whole region.

to get rid of hamas (as all the arab countries around dont seem to care or even fund islamist terror - looking at iran). nobody in general has an interest in the dry desert.

After world war 2 the Jews invaded Palestine thanks

bbbsss · May 29

39 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

lol soooo brainwashed.

and if you say and believe antisemtic things you are one. just as easy and obvious as the fact that its no genocide.

42 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

lol look whos talking. surprised you even seem to be able to read - or is someone helping you here

Chile, read your posts. You literally sound illiterate and can’t even put a cohesive sentence together. Again, your antisemitic card won’t work with me. It’s been declined, maxed out. Try harder next time.

It’s also funny that you think you're in a position to comment on anyone while you're here pulling the hairs out of your аss trying to convince everyone that bombing thousands of innocent people and burning kids alive in what was supposed to be a “safe zone” is not GENOCIDE. Save it, as I said earlier, your opinion is worthless to me. You are an excuse for a human being, and I’m literally disgusted to even be talking to you.

Now shut the fuсk up and go back to your cave.

LoveYourselfMas · May 29

58 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

its not ´´the jews`` - israel is the only multiculti country in the whole region.

to get rid of hamas (as all the arab countries around dont seem to care or even fund islamist terror - looking at iran). nobody in general has an interest in the dry desert.

On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day.

like what are you even talking about

trip to my touch · May 30

5 hours ago, bbbsss said:

Chile, read your posts. You literally sound illiterate and can’t even put a cohesive sentence together. Again, your antisemitic card won’t work with me. It’s been declined, maxed out. Try harder next time.

It’s also funny that you think you're in a position to comment on anyone while you're here pulling the hairs out of your аss trying to convince everyone that bombing thousands of innocent people and burning kids alive in what was supposed to be a “safe zone” is not GENOCIDE. Save it, as I said earlier, your opinion is worthless to me. You are an excuse for a human being, and I’m literally disgusted to even be talking to you.

Now shut the fuсk up and go back to your cave.

Chile? I am not from south america lol

Edited May 30 by trip to my touch

trip to my touch · May 30

5 hours ago, LoveYourselfMas said:

On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day.

like what are you even talking about

and the other nations of the free world agreed with them. done

MortalMarshmallow · May 30

11 hours ago, trip to my touch said:

lol.

i am surrounded by proislamist onlinetrolls and (amoungst some few others) the voice of sanity. genocide is not happening no matter how often hamas online army is repeating it.

and your idol trump turns 80 too.

its about not beeing a stupid criminal

and not ageism when it comes to the presidency

Killing thousands of innocent people including thousands of children over many, many months is not genocide to you? Yes, we are talking about this specific war; the Israeli campaign, which is called Operation Swords of Iron, which has killed 30,000+ Palestinians, most of them women and children. Israel says its goals are to "destroy Hamas" and to "free hostages." This is justice to you cuz these people in Gaza live in the same country as a military uprising called Hamas. So according to you, if Trump becomes your president (assuming you are American) and Trump makes some stupid political actions, it's totally okay for let's say Mexico to bomb all your wives and children? According to you it looks like it is totally okay with you.

Slaughtering innocent civilians at the brink of dying of starvation, while they are getting those emergency packages from air drops is not cruel to you? Guess not.

You support Israel, yes. So you think it's okay that one attack should be responded to with an ongoing ground invasion?

You believe Amnesty International, a movement who campaigns to end abuses of human rights are just plain terrorist supporters?

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity - Amnesty International

WWW.AMNESTY.ORG

Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report. The investigation details how...

Do you even know Israel has suppressed Palestinians since 1967?
OPT = "occupied Palestinian territory" refers as a whole to the geographical area of the Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967. Since the mid-1990s Israeli authorities have imposed increasingly stringent movement restrictions on Palestinians in the OPT. A web of military checkpoints, rocupcakess, fences and other structures controls the movement of Palestinians within the OPT, and restricts their travel into Israel or abroad. A 700km fence, which Israel is still extending, has isolated Palestinian communities inside “military zones,” and they must obtain multiple special permits any time they enter or leave their homes. In Gaza, more than 2 million Palestinians live under an Israeli blockade which has created a humanitarian crisis. It is near-impossible for Gazans to travel abroad or into the rest of the OPT, and they are effectively segregated from the rest of the world.

^ According to you this is okay. So if Russia fully invades parts of Ukraine and holds them captive in their own land this is totally okay with you.

And just so you know: Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims. The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to intentional violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants (mostly civilians and neutral military personnel). There are various different definitions of terrorism, with no universal agreement about it.

I don't expect you to be able to grasp or fathom these facts, cuz it's clear your eyes will always be clouded. And i don't expect you to want to read this because you have a very fixed agenda inside your head. But here is some essence anyway. Now go ahead and respond with your usual fingerpointing, receipt-void, blind rage labelling.

Edited May 30 by MortalMarshmallow

MortalMarshmallow · May 30

7 hours ago, bbbsss said:

while you're here pulling the hairs out of your аss trying to convince everyone that bombing thousands of innocent people and burning kids alive in what was supposed to be a “safe zone” is not GENOCIDE.

Israel's deadly attack on tent camp confirms 'there is no safety' in Gaza, survivors say | CBC News

WWW.CBC.CA

Families who survived a deadly Israeli airstrike on a tent camp in southern Gaza described a horrific scene of scorched tents and burning bodies on Sunday.

Ofc it's genocide. It only takes a person to read this article and link it with the definition of genocide: genocide, the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.

I really wonder why anyone would support the actions of Israel. I really do. Is it because Israel are Jews and Palestinians are Arabs? Idk ...

trip to my touch · May 30

17 minutes ago, MortalMarshmallow said:

Killing thousands of innocent people including thousands of children over many, many months is not genocide to you? Yes, we are talking about this specific war; the Israeli campaign, which is called Operation Swords of Iron, which has killed 30,000+ Palestinians, most of them women and children. Israel says its goals are to "destroy Hamas" and to "free hostages." This is justice to you cuz these people in Gaza live in the same country as a military uprising called Hamas. So according to you, if Trump becomes your president (assuming you are American) and Trump makes some stupid political actions, it's totally okay for let's say Mexico to bomb all your wives and children? According to you it looks like it is totally okay with you.

Slaughtering innocent civilians at the brink of dying of starvation, while they are getting those emergency packages from air drops is not cruel to you? Guess not.

You support Israel, yes. So you think it's okay that one attack should be responded to with an ongoing ground invasion?

You believe Amnesty International, a movement who campaigns to end abuses of human rights are just plain terrorist supporters?

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity - Amnesty International

WWW.AMNESTY.ORG

Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report. The investigation details how...

Do you even know Israel has suppressed Palestinians since 1967?
OPT = "occupied Palestinian territory" refers as a whole to the geographical area of the Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967. Since the mid-1990s Israeli authorities have imposed increasingly stringent movement restrictions on Palestinians in the OPT. A web of military checkpoints, rocupcakess, fences and other structures controls the movement of Palestinians within the OPT, and restricts their travel into Israel or abroad. A 700km fence, which Israel is still extending, has isolated Palestinian communities inside “military zones,” and they must obtain multiple special permits any time they enter or leave their homes. In Gaza, more than 2 million Palestinians live under an Israeli blockade which has created a humanitarian crisis. It is near-impossible for Gazans to travel abroad or into the rest of the OPT, and they are effectively segregated from the rest of the world.

^ According to you this is okay. So if Russia fully invades parts of Ukraine and holds them captive in their own land this is totally okay with you.

And just so you know: Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims. The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to intentional violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants (mostly civilians and neutral military personnel). There are various different definitions of terrorism, with no universal agreement about it.

I don't expect you to be able to grasp or fathom these facts, cuz it's clear your eyes will always be clouded. And i don't expect you to want to read this because you have a very fixed agenda inside your head. But here is some essence anyway. Now go ahead and respond with your usual fingerpointing, receipt-void, blind rage labelling.

lol all those false narratives fueled by hamas and iran (oh and btw i am european)... .

its a war and so there are casulties. oh and btw lovely to see you justify terror... .

israel is not an apartheid state - its the only multiculty state in the whole region (oh and what a surprising coincidence the only non muslim state there) - the are many mosques and muslims there.

just shut up and think about whos dirty work uneducated delulu western wannabe lefties are doing. you wouldnt last 10min in gaza, iran, russia or china. so enjoy our freedom of speech and civilisation while it lasts (before people like you, autocrat countries and populists like meloni and trump destroyed it).

oh and for you and all the others here:

1. “Genocide” refers to the physical destruction of an entire group in whole or in part that has been targeted on the basis of its identity. This is not Israel’s objective in Gaza.

Raphael Lemkin, a Polish lawyer of Jewish descent, introduced the term genocide in 1944 to refer to events including the ****s’ systematic extermination of Jews.

Lemkin explained the need for a new legal term to describe this horror, saying: “there has been no serious endeavor hitherto to prevent and punish the mur*** and destruction of millions.... there was not even an adequate name for such a phenomenon.”

What You Need to Know About the Latest International Court of Justice Action in the Case Against Israel

The United Nations General Assembly recognized genocide as a crime under international law in 1946 and it was codified in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in 1948.

The Convention defines genocide as the commission of grave harm against members of a national, ethnic, racial or religious group - such as by killing, causing serious physical or mental harm, inflicting conditions that bring about physical destruction, imposing measures to prevent births or forcibly taking away children - with the intent to destroy the group as such.

Genocide means targeting members of a group because of their group identity and not something they are individually thought to have done.

Israel’s war is against Hamas: Israel is not seeking to destroy the Palestinian people or the Palestinian population of Gaza, which is what would need to happen in order to correctly apply the term “genocide.” Israel’s leaders have repeatedly asserted that their campaign in Gaza is solely against the terrorist organization Hamas. In fact, this type of military campaign is the exact opposite of reflecting an attempt to eliminate the Palestinian population.

Unpacking South Africa’s Baseless Genocide Charge Against Israel

Furthermore, on occasions in which Israeli officials have made statements reflecting callous disregard for Palestinian civilian lives, they have been disciplined and the IDF has reiterated that it has no wish to harm innocents.

2. Israel is responding to a genocidal attack by Hamas

Since October 7, Israel’s objective in Gaza has been to destroy Hamas, a terrorist organization that carried out an unprecedented and brutal massacre against its people, including infants, children, elderly and disabled people. The goal of Hamas is to wipe Israel and Jews off the map, and its representatives have recently reiterated that they will never stop pursuing it. That’s an example of genocidal intent.

Expose this false claim

Why Israel is Not a Settler Colonial State

Israel is fully justified in using military force to respond to Hamas’s October 7 attack (read AJC’s explainer on Israel, Hamas, and international law). Given the extent of the damage the Iran-backed terror group inflicted and the nature of Hamas’s genocidal intentions, Israel’s goal of eliminating the terrorist group entirely is appropriate, and its use of significant force (which always must be directed at legitimate military targets) to achieve is compatible with the requirement of proportionality. Israel’s use of military force in Gaza in the face of such a threat is not evidence of genocide, but completely consistent with international law.

3. Israel’s actions reflect its desire to spare Palestinian civilians from harm, not to deliberately harm them

The humane practices of the IDF disprove claims of genocidal intent, as the Israeli military sends Arabic-language warnings to Gazans prior to its airstrikes on terrorist infrastructure and legitimate military targets in the coastal enclave.

Humanitarian corridors: In fact, Israel called for the temporary evacuation of the local population in the northern part of the Gaza Strip, and delayed its ground operation in Gaza for weeks to allow civilians time to heed Israel’s warnings. Before and since it has continued to go to great lengths to indicate safe routes for Palestinian civilians to relocate from northern Gaza. Israel has made it clear to residents that Gaza City has become a battle zone because Hamas terrorists are hiding in terror tunnels located under civilians’ houses and has repeatedly stated that residents of northern Gaza will be able to return to the area when conditions permit.

Far from reflecting genocidal intent, Israel’s temporary relocation of Palestinian civilians out of northern Gaza reflects an intention to ensure they are out of harm’s way as it undertakes a legitimate military campaign to destroy Hamas’s terrorist infrastructure, which unfortunately is embedded in and under civilian areas in Gaza.

Moreover, since October 17, Israel also has allowed more and more humanitarian aid deliveries for Palestinians to enter through the Rafah crossing, further refuting the suggestion that its limitations on the entry of aid and supplies for Palestinians have any purpose other than to deprive Hamas of the ability to resupply and continue its attacks against Israel.

4. Hamas’ actions are designed to cause harm to Palestinian civilians and blame Israel

Israel has a right to defend itself within the bounds of international conventions and law from the thousands of Hamas missiles that have been fired on Israeli towns and cities since October 7. Those missiles don’t originate from military bases, as international law dictates. They are fired from civilian neighborhoods in the Gaza Strip, and from inside, next to, and underneath nominally civilian areas in Gaza like residential buildings, schools, mosques, and hospitals. When Hamas takes these actions it transforms what were once protected civilian sites into legitimate military targets.

Israel, Hamas, and International Law: What You Need to Know

Hamas puts civilians in harm’s way: While Israel goes to great lengths to avoid harming civilians as it targets Hamas’s weapons and operations centers in Gaza, Hamas typically proceeds to place Palestinian civilians directly in the path of the IDF’s targets. It has repeatedly called on Palestinian civilians to ignore Israel’s warnings about impending strikes and reportedly forced civilians to remain in the vicinity of military objectives, using them, like its hostages from Israel, as human shields.

7 Ways Hamas Exploits Palestinian Civilians in Gaza

Hamas’ actions are not only aimed at protecting its leaders, weapons, and property but also at vying for leverage in the public opinion war by inflating the number of civilian casualties.

Through its actions in Gaza, Hamas greatly increases the likelihood that military actions by Israel that are permissible in war and not prohibited by the law of war - let alone by the Genocide Convention - will nevertheless result in some harm to civilians. International law does not prohibit Israel from attacking legitimate military targets even when it is possible or likely that some civilian harm will result - unless the expected civilian harm will clearly exceed the anticipated military advantage from the attack.

While Israel takes many steps to minimize civilian harm resulting from its attacks against Hamas targets, as much as it can, it cannot eliminate it entirely. This is a horrible outcome of war, but it is not illegal, and it certainly is not genocide.

5. The “facts” of the genocide charge don’t add up

Those who claim that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza not only misunderstand the legal definition of genocide and what the laws of war permit; they also base the charge on unsubstantiated claims.

It is unquestionable that many civilians in Gaza have died and even more have suffered immensely since October 7. However, there are so many “unknowns” with an important bearing on Israel’s conduct in this war that it is impossible to say with certainty that it is acting wrongfully.

The number of “innocents” vs. terrorists that have died: This is impossible to know given that the Ministry of Health in Gaza is under the control of and susceptible to influence by Hamas, and does not separate innocent civilians from fighters in its announced death tolls.
The circumstances in which numerous innocents have been killed in Gaza: This includes whether they died because of attacks carried out by the IDF or because of intentional or unintentional harmful actions by Hamas or other Palestinian armed groups. A key example is the explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City, which the U.S. and other governments have determined was caused by a failed rocket fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad and not, as Hamas, the Hamas-controlled Ministry of Health in Gaza, and many other sources claimed, by the IDF.
The nature of the military objective of attacks carried out by the IDF in which Palestinian civilians have died: Given that it is not possible for independent assessments to be conducted into whether a Hamas leader, tunnel, and/or weapons cache was present at the site of any specific IDF attack in Gaza, which Hamas still largely controls.

trip to my touch · May 30

2 minutes ago, MortalMarshmallow said:

I really wonder why anyone would support the actions of Israel. I really do. Is it because Israel are Jews and Palestinians are Arabs? Idk ...

thats just stupid, uneducated and rasist. there are arab jews, arab christians, european muslims all living together in -- ISRAEL ---

MortalMarshmallow · May 30

8 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

thats just stupid, uneducated and rasist. there are arab jews, arab christians, european muslims all living together in -- ISRAEL ---

Well this is not my opinion that you refer to, so idk who you call stupid, uneducated and racist? Who are you targeting? Maybe you didn't read my post, you just read what you wanted it to read?

11 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

oh and btw lovely to see you justify terror... .

Where do I do that? In which part of my text do I justify terror? Again with the baseless accusations. Try and differentiate 30k people from Hamas pls. Anyways you are not replying to what i write, you just copy paste pro-Israel narratives. So this isn't gonna go anywhere than a useless circle as expected.

Maybe one day, puppet Cloud, you shall be able to see .

trip to my touch · May 30

35 minutes ago, MortalMarshmallow said:

Well this is not my opinion that you refer to, so idk who you call stupid, uneducated and racist? Who are you targeting? Maybe you didn't read my post, you just read what you wanted it to read?

Where do I do that? In which part of my text do I justify terror? Again with the baseless accusations. Try and differentiate 30k people from Hamas pls. Anyways you are not replying to what i write, you just copy paste pro-Israel narratives. So this isn't gonna go anywhere than a useless circle as expected.

Maybe one day, puppet Cloud, you shall be able to see .

well if you say rasist things you are rasist. and if you repeat the justifications of terrorists tryingto hide their fun in killing and rapeing you justify terror. its as easy as that.

its facts and truth. your narrow mind and hamas online bucket list of arguments make you rotate...

MortalMarshmallow · May 30

1 minute ago, trip to my touch said:

well if you say rasist things you are rasist.

read my ******* post. im writing:

59 minutes ago, MortalMarshmallow said:

I really wonder why anyone would support the actions of Israel. I really do. Is it because Israel are Jews and Palestinians are Arabs? Idk ...

but no wonder you can't read what i write when you still write racist as rasist; you simply don't have the processing skills of learning new things through text.

3 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

and if you repeat the justifications of terrorists tryingto hide their fun in killing and rapeing you justify terror. its as easy as that.

i am barely mentioning hamas, wtf are you referring to?

4 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

its facts and truth.

what?

4 minutes ago, trip to my touch said:

your narrow mind and hamas online bucket list of arguments make you rotate...

i'm barely mentioning hamas. you are simply unable to comprehend my writing.

trip to my touch · May 30

2 minutes ago, MortalMarshmallow said:

gawd what a birdbrain you have

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1. “Genocide” refers to the physical destruction of an entire group in whole or in part that has been targeted on the basis of its identity. This is not Israel’s objective in Gaza.

2. Israel is responding to a genocidal attack by Hamas

3. Israel’s actions reflect its desire to spare Palestinian civilians from harm, not to deliberately harm them

4. Hamas’ actions are designed to cause harm to Palestinian civilians and blame Israel

5. The “facts” of the genocide charge don’t add up

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