Facebook disables Trump campaign ads that displayed symbols used by Na zis

[Illegally EATEN]

18 hours ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

Wow, you dig so deep to justify Trump's racism and how he emboldens racists and yet all do is prove the point.

My comment literally could not be any more straightforward and yet Im willing to bet you didnt read past the 2nd paragraph. Praying for you ☀️

[OnlyFacts]

5 minutes ago, DonoDotto said:

My comment literally could not be any more straightforward and yet Im willing to bet you didnt read past the 2nd paragraph. Praying for you ☀️

No, in this case, you’re just racist. You refused to acknowledge my long comment above because I only stated facts. We’re all praying for you. 

[Illegally EATEN]

On 6/19/2020 at 3:12 AM, bitbitboi said:

omg you guys are harsh... I mean I've been passionate about other topics here too, but I want to read your replies so I learn more about this but I feel like I'm squinting my eyes because you're lashing out in every line...

But I guess I kinda get the overall point of the replies: Trump is vile, but pointing out minimal or ridiculous or simply false accusations is just cheap propaganda against him, which overall weakens the original purpose.

I like Jordan (EXCEPT WHEN HE TYPED "BEYONCÉ" IN MY THREAD), he's a sweet guy, treat him nicely...

 

On 6/19/2020 at 8:41 PM, Dwb25 said:

First of all, I’ll just say that I myself have joined threads with less than compassionate comments, and called members out for being uneducated, ignorant or misguided in my eyes, and I’ve apologized in the past for making those comments. 

I actually agree that this whole situation is a stretch, and that drawing comparisons between the Trump administration and the Na Zi regime is reckless and dangerous. Mass manipulation through media is something we ALL have to be wary of, regardless of our political affiliations. 
I think Trump is an idiot, and I believe in many ways he’s a reflection of this country’s shadows. He’s a capitalist, first and foremost, and a ruthless businessman, who’s priorities seem to reflect a massive, self-loathing ego.
I also recognize he’s a human being, and that he endures an obscene amount of hatred, coming at him from all angles, and that kind of energy toxifies the mind, the body, and the spirit, and I personally don’t believe ANYONE deserves that. 

So, I would encourage everyone, including myself, especially when navigating the political posts on this forum, to check their emotions at the door, and be patient with one another. When we respond aggressively, and weave our comments with condescension, tell people that they or their ideas are embarrassing, ignorant, stupid, absurd, etc, we ALL lose. People become unreceptive when their guards are up.

Let’s be more mindful shall we? Take a few minutes to ponder whatever it is you have to say, and speak from a place of mindfulness. We can share ideas and educate one another, and even completely disagree, without attacking one another. 
I believe in the integrity of this incredibly special, crazy little community. Let’s please hold each other up, even through our differences, as daunting as they may be. 
Love you ALL 💚💚💚

Suffice it to say that false Holocaust and notsee comparisons will not be taken lightly. 

Nor do I believe they should be brushed with a feather.

Whether or not the lies in the op were made purposefully or out of genuine mis-guidedness is irrelevant in my eyes.

Nothing about the Holocaust should be taken so lightheadedly and disrespectfully. Be prepared for a scolding of hard facts and yes, perhaps even a hit to the ego, if youre not prepared to do your research first about such topics.

Notice though that not once did I attack Jordan's person or personality. Every criticism I made was solely at the existense of this thread. I did not call him embarrassing, I called his thread embarrassing. A thread being embarrassing can be fixed, while a person being embarrassing implies a set personality trait. And while harsh, I dont believe saying so falls out of the bounds of civilized debate.

[Illegally EATEN]

13 minutes ago, OnlyFacts said:

No, in this case, you’re just racist. You refused to acknowledge my long comment above because I only stated facts. We’re all praying for you. 

Thats very kind of you to pray for me. 

I didnt answer your op bc I didnt believe it merited a response. If you dont understand why that is, perhaps bookmark it, return to it a year from now, and see if you still dont understand why. Repeat every couple of years until one year, itll click.

But ya, keep calling everyone who disagrees with you "racist". I guarentee it will not get you further than a stone-pebble's throw from wherever you are right now in life. 

Good luck 👋🏼

[OnlyFacts]

4 minutes ago, DonoDotto said:

Thats very kind of you to pray for me. 

I didnt answer your op bc I didnt believe it merited a response. If you dont understand why that is, perhaps bookmark it, return to it a year from now, and see if you still dont understand why. Repeat every couple of years until one year, itll click.

But ya, keep calling everyone who disagrees with you "racist". I guarentee it will not get you further than a stone-pebble's throw from wherever you are right now in life. 

Good luck 👋🏼

I stated facts, you stated opinions. That’s why you didn’t acknowledge my comment. But yes, I pray for everyone, even racists and homophobics.

 

down vote this comment if you’re racist 

[Deyonce]

So is the politics thread where all the racist gays lurk or something? Y'all are disgusting.

[GMFlop]

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[vladou]

On 6/19/2020 at 1:06 AM, DonoDotto said:

Jordan, this thread is embarrassing [for you]. As are the countless articles by major news outlets circling the internet making this same claim.

Do none of you care to do at least a minimal amount of research on this claim and/or use a minimal amount of common sense?

Will you and many others just bounce on any and every story that casts Trump in a negative light, even if it claims that the sky is actually the ground, clouds are purple glitter, and the moon is a distant coconut?

Id just like to start this off by stating that I am a descendant of survivors of concentration camps, whose nearly entire immediate families at the time were wiped out in the Holocaust. I take everything that has to do with the Holocaust and notsees very seriously, including attempts to rewrite history or trivialize and make entirely distasteful notsee/Holocaust comparisons.

In educations in Jewish schools, we spend full years learning about the Holocaust in our history classes. That said, never have I ever come across this "upside down red triangle".

But of course, Im willing to accept that I dont know anywhere near as much about the subject as there is to know because it is endlessly vast. So I did a minimal amount of online research.

Apparently, in *some* early concentration camps, in Germany alone, red triangles were used to mark prisoners. You know what else was used? Purple triangles. Green triangles. Pink triangles. Black triangles. Etc. 

Are they all notsee symbols in that case?

A triangle is literally one of the most basic, common shapes in the universe. Along with the circle, the square. There are also 7 main colors. One of them is red. An upside down red triangle is very commonly used as a "dislike" symbol/react on an endless array of comment sections on websites. It is also an emoji, as is the upright red triangle. The fact that it was used in *some* concentration camps in the *early* stages of the Holocaust does not in any sensical way make it forever a notsee symbol. Especially considering it is one of the most simple, common symbols in existense.

Striped clothes were also used to mark prisoners. In fact, this practice was far more widespread and used for the majority of the Holocaust.

Are stripes of any color in modern day, whether on clothes or otherwise, considered "notsee symbols"? 

The fact that such a thing even needs explaining is a testament to how far people's blind hatred of Trump can pull them off the deep end and give way for them to believe, or pretend to believe in order to further their aims, *literally* anything.

The ease with which people invoke the Holocaust to make provably stupid claims about Trump is part of what makes the anti-Trump left so absolutely revolting. And Ill say that about anyone who tastelessly and so insensitively invokes the Holocaust to try and further their aims.

I hope the info Ive shared is a wake up call to you and anyone else who has read this claim and believed it. Shame on Facebook and all of the news outlets who so insidiously and undoubtably purposefully spread this disgusting claim.

Perhaps it can give way to some of you questioning more "news" articles in general, since this is far from an anomoly of modern day "news" coverage. Its simply one of the easiest to explain though. So I hope, that even regarding the more complicated and difficult to explain cases of outright media propaganda, that people won't lazy out and choose not to put their heads just a little bit to work.

*Edit: following some other users' ridiculous leads-

Downvote this comment if you disrespect and hate the victims of the notsee Holocaust.

In Europe, anyone with a decent high school education would associate the red triangle - and the history behind it - with concentration camps and ****sm. Maybe it’s cultural. But I support Jordan on this. 

[OnlyFacts]

7 minutes ago, vladou said:

In Europe, anyone with a decent high school education would associate the red triangle - and the history behind it - with concentration camps and ****sm. Maybe it’s cultural. But I support Jordan on this. 

Say it again for the people in the back! The only people making a defense for this racist display are the people planning to vote for a man that told us all to drink Lysol 🙄