They discuss the American pop music landscape is different, image sells the music, and uplifting messages wasn't what the public liked..but her persistence pulled through.
Written for her 14 year old brother, she said it was important to tell him or kids, even if society frowns upon mistakes, keep making them, the imperfections are better than the idea of perfection and being perfect all the time.
However, she said once fame hits, very bad on the mental health,cos you have to maintain by no means necessary, and she would be okay to let it go, but her American label (big trouble for international acts), forced the maintaining it by any means necessary..