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filmandstage13

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  1. If she is, she's not credited on the CD insert; only as a writer She is however the sole background vocalist in Passenger:
  2. Honestly I love "If You Had My Love." Iconic 90s. I had the CD single. It's a bop!
  3. We all know that Britney never gets enough credit for her vocals, especially her vocal layering. She often does backing vocals on her own tracks, and there are certain songs where the vocals are all hers. I've been going through the liner notes of her albums and taking a look at which songs seem to be all Britney. Some are very clear and say "All vocals by Britney Spears." Others just credit her for providing backing vocals. Others just don't credit backing vocals at all. Bonus track are very hard to come by so I didn't include them here, but these are taken from the CD inserts... The running list I have so far: Thinkin' About You ("Backing Vocals: Britney Spears") The Beat Goes On (No mention of backing vocals - and I think there may just not really be backing vocals on the song) Dear Diary (No mention of backing vocals) I'm a Slave 4 U ("All Vocals by Britney Spears") Boys ("All Vocals by Britney Spears") Touch of My Hand (No mention of backing vocals) Everytime (No mention of backing vocals) Womanizer (No mention of backing vocals - are all of those vocals hers?!) Kill the Lights (No mention of backing vocals) Mannequin (No mention of backing vocals) My Baby (No mention of backing vocals) 3 (No mention of backing vocals) Perfume (No mention of backing vocals) Don't Cry (No mention of backing vocals) Hold on Tight (No mention of backing vocals) Invitation (No mention of backing vocals) Just Like Me (No mention of backing vocals) Better (No mention of backing vocals) Coupure Electrique (No mention of backing vocals) If I missed or misunderstood any credits, feel free to chime in! My favorites: Thinkin' About You - SUCH a vocal powerhouse. A true Britney vocal Tour de Force! Slave - Iconic & all Britney! That layering! (Boys, too!) Touch of My Hand - Absolutely beautiful layering. And one of her best tracks! Womanizer - She creates an exciting atmosphere all on her own here. Mannequin - One of the most unique an bizarre performances, and imho, Circus's best! The vocals really match the lyrics and I love it! Invitation - One of her most beautiful songs! I did run into a few confusing entries based on how they are credited on the CD insert: Don't Let Me Be the Last to Know (Doesn't credit backing vocals, but there are clearly men on the track, no?) What It's Like to Be Me ("Vocal Arrangement by Justin Timberlake" is an odd way of saying he's on the track too) Body Ache (I know what everyone is thinking and I'm not here for conspiracy theories, but unlike most tracks on BJ, no one is credited with "background" or "additional" vocals, and MM is given a writing credit here, but no vocal credits) Anyway - Queen is a killer vocalist who all herself can make incredible songs! And this doesn't cover the dozens of other songs where she provides backing vocals and is supported by maybe one other person! (e.g. Breathe on Me!)
  4. People complaining about the FF tour instead of just appreciating the glory of the performance in the video
  5. I don’t care what anyone says, I really enjoyed the Femme Fatale tour. And this clip of Hold It Against Me from San Jose in 2011 is one of my favorite live videos of hers from ANY era! (Selfish got me all nostalgic).
  6. To each their own! I would personally include I Will Be There in the "songs that should have been singles," but I do appreciate the Thinkin' About You love. Talk about vocals!!
  7. I've underestimated Sometimes. As a follow-up to the greatest pop debut of all-time, it's never going to seem quite as innovative or daring as Baby One More Time. But it's a solid track in its own right. I feel like it fits nicely alongside popular Backstreet Boys songs of the time (e.g. As Long as You Love Me and Quit Playing Games with My Heart). It was a breezy summer hit that played nicely on the radio in the summer of 1999. But considering Britney's incredible discography, I kind of assumed this track would fall by the wayside a bit. It just didn't seem like a standout among so many great songs, but it's had a longevity that many of her other songs (and some of her biggest hits) have not achieved! Take YouTube, for instance. It's sitting at 312M views, whereas Crazy (the bigger hit and her only other top 10 hit of the album besides Baby) is over 100 million views behind at 200M. It also has more views than any Oops single besides Oops itself! (Lucky 183M, Stronger 157M, and DLMBTLTK 56M). And on Spotify it is ranked her12th most popular track with over 176M streams, which is more than hits like Till the World Ends, Everytime, and Crazy (although Crazy is a bit complicated because the best known version of the song is not on the BOMT album). I can't speak for everyone as to why people keep coming back to the track, but a few things I will say: Her vocals are stunning She did NOT have to go that hard on the video choreography It has one of the best middle eights of any of her singles It's super nostalgic It's got one of the greatest remixes of any of her songs, the Soul Solution Mid-Tempo Mix! It's wonderfully 90s and hits a bit harder and groovier than the original mix: I've definitely grown in appreciation for Sometimes, even if it's never been a favorite of Britney's herself!
  8. We all know Britney has been severely underrated for her artistry and impact by critics throughout her career, but I think she’s slowly starting to get her laurels. For those who have never heard of it, acclaimedmusic.net takes all of those critics lists (e.g. greatest albums of all time, best songs of the year, etc.) as well as awards like Grammys to quantify the most “acclaimed” albums, artists, and songs of all time. The site was last updated in 2020, but is due for another update later this year. Although Brit continues to be underrated (the 557th most recommended artist of all time) she seems to be on the rise! She also has several highly ranked songs, her highest being Toxic (222nd greatest song of all time where they track the top 10,000) and Baby One More Time (569th greatest song of all time). These may seem low, but remember, this includes all songs from all over the world since recording began early last century. Blackout is also “bubbling under” the top 3,000 albums, meaning it is highly acclaimed but hasn’t quite hit the top 3000. I think a lot of these placements will rise with the next update since several recent prominent lists have ranked Britney’s work quite highly. Notably, Blackout was included on the Rolling Stone’s most recent “500 Greatest Albums of All Time,” and Toxic and Baby were on the song version. Baby was also ranked the top debut of all time. A few surprises for fans: Femme Fatale is the only other Britney album to almost make the albums list! Despite the weird shade it gets from her fan base, it’s quite a well-received album! Also fun to compare her to her contemporaries. Despite Grammys being factored in, Britney does still rank quite a bit higher than the other pop soloists to emerge from the 90s.
  9. Why is NBC so infuriatingly militant about their SNL copyright claims? Brit has some of her best performances on SNL and they’ve been forced into obscurity by network execs who are stuck in the past in terms of content dissemination
  10. Oh my god this is so early 2000s. And Britney is so pretty and sweet. Did anyone else find the Robbie Williams comment bizarre? Like, it sounded both creepy and bitter
  11. When my boyfriend and I saw her Piece of Me tour, he asked what my favorite songs were and I said that honestly one of them was the If I’m Dancing interlude. It was so light and fun, and seemed like such a wonderful release for the crowd. It struck me that it was such a joyful song in a way that not many Britney songs are. She has lots of upbeat and uptempo songs, but most are rooted in angst and empowerment, and few are just pure unadulterated joy. It’s happy, irreverent, and wonderfully weird. Hearing that it’s one of her favorite songs and they added that interlude to appease her (which only served to understandably annoy her), solidified just how special that song is. I’m so glad she loves it. Up there with Mood Ring and Slumber Party for the top Glory tracks for me.
  12. I think it’s totally normal for artists to have negative feelings and associations with some their work, even if it’s beloved by fans (or even critics). John Lennon hated the second half of Abbey Road, one of the most critically acclaimed and celebrated albums of all time. I read this part of the book as her negativity stemming from two major issues: first, feeling she was pressed to go back on tour too quickly with an insane schedule that was not sustainable; and second, she doesn’t relate to the content anymore, feeling it was over**xualized because of how she was coping with the breakup at the time. It seems like these soured her whole experience, and we remember from comments she made during her knee injury that the schedule was insane and the injury was a blessing. But I feel like despite her negative feelings about the tour, I’d rank it alongside DWAD as one of her best. In stark contrast to her residency, she really got to build out a setlist of new work with reworked (often heavily remixed) versions of the few early hits she did. She did 10/12 (!!) of the In the Zone tracks, which is kind of insane! (Justice for Early Mornin’ and Brave New Girl). She did just 6 of her earlier hits, and the Cabaret section was a huge departure from how those songs had been performed previously. So it does seem like it had elements Britney values when taking her work out on tour: the opportunity to present new work and remix/reimagine older work. Thematically I thought it was cohesive and creative. Loved the fantastical hotel vibe. The costumes and the characters were fascinating. The host was a little much, but I think it really leaned into the theme in a way not many tours do. She leaned into the atmosphere and persona, and I think her commitment to the theme really sold it. I also looooved the costumes. I can’t think of a black catsuit that fit someone better and also allowed them to do such incredible dancing. The mystic lounge getup was so on point and really shown during the chair choreography. And the beautiful Versace dress may be my favorite tour outfit of all time! But what I liked most about the tour is the performances themselves. She danced with such a defiance (which makes more sense now) that the energy of the routines was brought to a whole new level. And having the setlist revolve around one of her greatest albums doesn’t hurt either! We basically got a full visual album that really fit the vibe of ITZ imho. As much as I wish Britney had fond memories of all of her work, that she doesn’t like this tour doesn’t diminish its achievement in my mind. She made impressive, compelling art during what sounds like a very tough time for her, and I’ll always appreciate what the tour has meant to me. I’ll always rank it alongside DWAD as her best.
  13. Agree, she really served in her debut era! And I love this performance. No flashy set or production, but with so much energy. Although it was mostly the album mix during US performances, there are a few examples of the remix live. The Much Music performance below is maybe my favorite with some great live vocals! It’s pretty much her teen choice award performance, but swapping out the album version for the Crazy remix.
  14. Glory for me! In fact, Glory’s greatest sin is relegating so many great songs to the Deluxe edition. Had the bonus tracks (Better, Change Your Mind, Liar, If I’m Dancing, Coupure Electrique, and Mood Ring) were released as a stand-alone EP, I think it would be regarded as one of her best collections. The rest of the album is also great: Invitation is beautiful and lowkey one of her best openers, Slumber Party sounds incredible and gets better with age, and Man on the Moon, Do You Wanna Come Over, and Just Like Me were all unexpected pop gems. I know people have mixed feelings about Private Show, but honestly I dig the wild and weird doo-wop vibe; she sounds like she’s having a blast and it’s what got me excited about the album. Make Me was a bit underwhelming, but could’ve been amazing if released as the VMA mix or the Cash Cash remix. Circus definitely had some killer singles, but it is so uneven to me. I get kinda lost by the end, but I maintain that Mannequin is not only the best track on the album, it’s a top 20 all time from her. I think your love of the album depends on how much you like Unusual You, and it’s just never really done it for me, mostly because I think the lyrics/rhymes are kinda lazy and the production sounds demo-ish. And it doesn’t sound like a song that should be on Circus. Nor do the other ballads, though I do love Out from Under. I even kinda like Mmm Papi, but would have swapped it out easily for Phonography, or even Dangerous! Blur is super underrated, but maybe a bit overproduced. I feel like this might be controversial, but good as it is, Circus is 8th in my list of Britney faves, only ahead of BJ (but it’s well-ahead of that one). Tacking on Radar at the end also emphasized to me how uneven the album is. Sonically it’s all over the place, and only a few songs make sense thematically. Femme Fatale on the other hand is super cohesive, especially sonically and I would also rank it above Circus, but that also seems to be an unpopular opinion.
  15. Billboard has released a 500 Best Pop Songs of All Time list, and Britney is well represented with 3 songs on the list! (Oops at #268, Toxic at #53, and Baby at #12). Some fun write ups for each as well! I know we’d all personally add more of her songs and push them further up the list, but this list is just another example of the growing critical appreciation of Britney’s work, which is LONG overdue. For fans who have been there since the beginning, critics dismissed, derided, or even ignored her work early on. The fastest way to lose credibility was to give her any credit. Most of this was rooted in s*xism and a general disdain for pop. But finally things are changing and many modern critics grew up with her music, appreciate its impact and longevity, and are no longer downplaying her role in her own success. Rolling Stone included her on their most recent greatest lists for both albums (Blackout) and songs (Baby and Toxic) lists. This would have seemed unheard of in the early 00s, no matter how warranted! And if I’m reading correctly, she’s one of the few artists with 3 entries along with Madonna, Mariah, Prince, Michael, Janet, and the Beatles. Slowly but surely she’s getting the recognition she deserves!!
  16. Yeah, this ain't it. He's not supporting Britney, he's supporting a misleading statement from a "pro-life" account. Women should absolutely not be pressured or coerced into having an ********. But the statement that Elon's agreeing with implies that most women are coerced into it, and that's just false. A 2020 study found that five years following an ********, more than 95% women say they made the right decision (article is below). The narrative that most are forced into it is a "pro-life" talking point and not rooted in any peer-reviewed evidence. Five Years After ********, Nearly All Women Say It Was the Right Decision, Study Finds WWW.UCSF.EDU Five years after having an ********, over 95 percent of the women in a landmark UCSF study said it was the right decision for them.
  17. I feel like Britney is known these days for not promoting (something she's truly earned!), but there was a time when Britney kept us FED! The first 5 years of her career were non-stop work and we always had new Britney content. The Oops era is probably the perfect storm of anticipation, execution, and promotion, creating an album rollout the likes of which I don't think we've seen before (though the Britney era is a very close second) and likely never will again considering today's fragmented media. After a smash debut, it was the first time we'd get new Britney music, and we were thirsty! And she DELIVERED! I should start with a disclaimer - the amount of work Britney put into her career is superhuman. Just take a look at this schedule that was circulating on Twitter The combination of appearances, interviews, and performances - and not just of her music, but also having to rehearse so she can host AND perform at SNL? Just one of these would have stressed me out, but to pack all of them into May and June is crazy. Just a sampling of her appearances is below. And this was all leading up to a huge world tour, where she absolutely wasn't slowing down: And the resulting era was pop music perfection. I'm not sure who remembers, but the Oops single debuted on MTV's Making the Video more than a month before the album in April of 2000. To me, Oops took the Baby One More Time formula and combined it with the bombast of the 2000 millennial pop sound that she helped to create. It was everything that fans wanted - an updated twist on more of the same. In fact, it's so similar to Baby One More Time in structure that you can literally sing one on top of the other and it lines up perfectly. Luckily, the production is sleeker and Britney has fully embodied her teen queen persona that it works really well. It seems a little crazy by today's standards, but for over a month, the only way we could listen to Oops was on the radio or on MTV, because (in the US at least) there was no physical single available unless you found an import. (Luckily my family taped - yes on VHS - the Making the Video episode and rewatched it regularly). While extremely hard to wait, it meant we were all primed to buy the album when it hit the shelves on 5/16/2000. In the meantime, we more than knew all the words because she was on so many shows performing it! Lucky as a 2nd single not only built on the millennial pop sound, but served to build up the legend of Britney as a pop star. It may seem a little kidd-ish compared to her other singles today, but I cannot stress enough how everyone in the sixth grade knew and constantly sang this song. Its Billboard chart placement (#23) far undersells its popularity because it was once again an airplay-only single. I love the song because, while firmly rooted in 2000 production, its structure is based on 60s girl group, which she leaned into for the performances. Of all of the singles, Stronger has to be my favorite. An all-time top 10 for me. It has everything you hope for in a Britney song: strong vocals mixed with Britney-isms (those voice-modulated "babys" are everything), a driving beat, and a callback to her biggest hit to date. But in stark contrast to the Baby One More Time album, Stronger embodied themes of independence and strength, allowing growth for Britney (at least as a pop persona), and something her young fans can relate and aspire to. Of all of her singles besides the title track, Don't Let Me Be the Last to Know might have been the best known to fans prior to the album release because she performed frequently in the lead-up promotion. Shania Twain (who was very hot at the time herself) co-wrote the track and it has all of the trademark elements of her best ballads. Britney's voice is a great fit - it's super strong, sultry, and conveys yearning while still being ****. And if any video represented an indication of where Britney was headed, this is the one. Her first video to NOT be featured on the Disney Channel due to its steamy content. There are also some excellent non-singles in this era as well. In fact, considering the success of this album, I'm a bit surprised there weren't more than four singles. What U See (Is What U Get) seems like it was single-ready, and Can't Make You Love Me is an underappreciated gem. Don't Go Knockin' On My Door seems like it could have fit in well on Destiny's Child's masterpiece The Writing's on the Wall, and Britney proved she could dabble in different sounds. She makes Satisfaction her own, but the definitive version was the live VMA cut. I will say, my only (very minor) critique of the album is that it's pretty top-heavy. Aside from Can't Make You Love Me, things slow down quite a bit after track 7. The interludes are also cute, but a bit of a stark contrast to the imagery in her videos at the time. They would have felt more at home in the Baby era, as would Dear Diary. But kudos for Britney getting that writing credit on the album proper! I'm So Curious deserved a spot on Baby! It would be the next album where we'd finally see the Britney-penned masterpieces start to arrive! I'll just close this thread by saying - popstars would die to have this many iconic moments come out of one album era. Beyond the iconic singles and the unforgettable red catsuit moment, some other moments that are seared in pop history that occurred during this album era: Anyway - I'm not sure how one human accomplished all of these things basically from Spring 2000 to Summer 2001. A legend who put in more than her share of the work!
  18. Tbh I love the video. I saw the video on Twitter first and thought it was totally a middle finger to TMZ. I also thought her dancing looked on point. It was only looking at exhale that I saw all the histrionics. Seems like those who are most upset are comparing her to popstars who are very much still part of the business. Yes, they all look great getting all dressed up with professional makeup artists and designers, but that is all part of a world that Britney has stated several times she is done with for now. She spent decades of her life in a makeup chair, performing, and making public appearances. Now she’s able to do everything on her own terms, and still she makes more waves than many of her contemporaries. It feels like she’s specifically rebelling against the image of the traditional popstar, which she embodied for so long. No matter what she does, people try to tear her apart. The people diagnose her from her insta videos as “manic” or decide it’s “2007 all over again” are just part of the noise. It never feels like it’s about her safety or wellbeing, but forcing her into a mold that she continues to reject.
  19. I’m sure there are some people who are truly concerned for Britney, but the comments that litter this site don’t sound like they’re coming from places of concern. Also, know the difference between wanting what is best for Britney and wanting her to act in a way you approve of.
  20. You're projecting your own thoughts on everyone else. There's plenty of love out there for her. And I don't get why some fans don't get that you have no idea if she is "ok" just by what her Instagram looks like. If you're so concerned with her legacy, stop being a part of the problem by casting judgment and thinking she has to act in a way that you approve of.
  21. Masterpiece. Best on Circus and in her top 20 of all time. The lyrics are defiant and so pertinent to her own experience. And the production matches the lyrics, making it a completely fulfilling experience. Vocals not necessarily brought to the fore, she’s lyrically and sonically putting up a shield against emotion. It’s like Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation got a 00s update. One of her greatest writing credits and I will die on this hill
  22. “Destroying her legacy?” What does that even mean? Because some exhalers don’t like her Instagram presence? She’s had one of the most influential careers in pop music history and persevered throughout a huge injustice. That we don’t always understand her social media presence these days won’t change that.
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