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Everything posted by autumngoodbye91

  1. I wonder if they're just doing this for attention? Or if they genuinely believe this? In both cases they need help, imo -- if they really believe this, they're suffering from delusions, and even if they're just doing this for attention, that's not exactly very normal or healthy either...
  2. It's really sad. I don't think it's just Hollywood either, our society as a whole treats aging women appallingly, making fun of them, not taking them seriously or just acting like they're invisible (while aging men are more often seen as a "silver fox" type of attractive, or at least respected for their experience and knowledge). If the average woman in the street is already under so much pressure to keep looking youthful, I can't imagine what it must be like for someone in Madonna's position. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes as an aging superstar and s** symbol, not in a million years.
  3. Honestly, I agree. At this point, we don't need more docs to raise awareness (the first doc was different, because it really opened people's eyes to what was going on). But since the first doc, things have changed. The world knows about Britney's situation and things are being handled in the courts and through the legal system. Britney has a competent lawyer who is on her side and who is taking care of business, and, as far I'm concerned, he is the only one who needs to know about all the ins and outs of the conservatorship. A new doc is not going to do anything to help Britney. On the contrary, it might drag up painful details from her past again, when she really just wants to be left alone so she can heal from her trauma. All these media corporations jumping on the bandwagon to get a piece of the pie feels kind of icky to me. In the end, it kind of feels like everyone still wants a piece of Britney, they're still profiting from her and her pain and trauma. So yes, unless part of the profit goes to some charity fighting conservatorship abuse or something like that, I'm very skeptical as to the intentions behind this (i.e. turning a quick profit now that this is a "hot topic"). I'd rather wait until Britney is free and able to tell her own story, on her own terms -- or, you know, not tell us ****, because that's her right, too.
  4. I don't think he's changed at all. There's a scene in the reboot of The Hills a few years back, where Mischa Barton confronts him about the horrible bullying and body shaming he subjected her to for years & which left her traumatised (like shaming her for her cellulite, calling her gross etc., when she was a young girl in her early 20s and he was a grown-*** 30 year old man who should've known better). So anyway, during this confrontation he apologises to her, but she says she can't forgive him, because the impact he had on her & so many other young vulnerable girls at the time (especially Britney, but others too) is not something you can simply undo with one weak apology. When she refuses to forgive him, he basically throws a tantrum, becomes really angry and then throws up his hands and walks out. I found that so telling. If he was truly sorry and ashamed for what he did in the past, he would respect that people are under no obligation to forgive him, but try to make ammends anyway. Like, you don't apologise to be forgiven, you apologise because you truly mean it and feel sorry, and then you leave it up to the other person how they react to it. The fact that he instantly threw a tantrum when he didn't get what he wanted, tells me it's all just a show. It's still all about him, his public image, and his ego, not about the people he hurt or about truly making ammends.
  5. I had just turned 20 and was starting my third year at University. I was pretty lonely at the time, I had people I hung out with but no one I really connected with or could be myself around. I was living in a foreign country away from my family and my childhood friends, and I had a flatmate who was ten years older than me and who was very toxic and controlling and often really mean -- at the time I was not assertive at all so most of the time I just allowed her to bully me and that really got me down. And apart from that I didn't know who I was, had zero self-worth, was drawn to toxic men and ****boys, all that good stuff Life is so much better now that I've just turned 30. Getting older sure has its downsides (I went to a festival this weekend and I'm still recuperating from the alcohol & lack of sleep, the days when I could stay up all night partying and still be productive the next day are loooong gone lmao, as are the days when I could eat whatever the hell I wanted and not work out and still not gain any weight). But my god, I would never want to be 20 again.
  6. I think it will be a small wedding with a few close friends and family (not most of Britney's family though ). On the beach in Hawaii would be perfect, with lots of flowers, cakes, and a Disney princess dress for Britney. There will be kids playing, and when it gets dark there will be fairy lights and dancing. "That's Where You Take Me" or "When I Found You" would be so beautiful for the opening dance As one of Britney's biggest supporters, Cher sings a few songs too, and afterwards she and Britney share a strawberry sundae. When the party is over Sam & Britney will ride off on horses since they both love horse-back riding, to a secret secluded location for their honeymoon (or maybe they'll sail away on a boat). That very night, on their wedding night, Britney gets pregnant and has a baby girl by next summer. Anyway that's just my imagination, makes me happy imagining this. But in all honesty, the less I know about their wedding the happier I'll be, because that means they've managed to keep it private and that's what I wish most for them.
  7. A huge rush? They've been together for almost six years. She's been waiting for this for a long time already.
  8. This makes me so so happy. These two are awesome together and I wish them an amazing wedding and all the luck and happiness and goofy fun in the world. I can't even put into words how much I feel she deserves this (and Sam, too, for supporting her and being there for her every step of the way). (also, any babies they make are gonna be sooo beautiful)
  9. anyway I think I'll stick with my Midnight Fantasy thanks
  10. She looks beautiful at any weight, but honestly, for me she has looked the prettiest when she's a little bit heavier. Like on the 2007 VMA's, or in the "Gimme More" video, I know a lot of people were making fun of her back then for looking "fat", but to me that just looks like a normal body of a woman who likes to have fun, have a drink, have a nice meal once in a while, rather than denying herself all of these things. And whenever she was a little bit heavier it meant she was in control of her body, rather than being forced to follow a certain regime. In my country we call this (rough translation) "the belly of the good life" -- having a little bit of a belly just shows that you're having fun and living your best life. Again, Britney looks good at any weight, I don't care if she's thin or chubby as long as she's happy, but it kind of breaks my heart that she's been conditioned to be so preoccupied with her weight. I just hate the people who have done this to her.
  11. Titney Spears, Mother of Nipples, Breaker of Bras (I can't with all these prudes and concern trolls in the comments though... leave Britney alone!)
  12. I agree, reading this thread makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable. I mean there's no question that he is a very abusive person and a horrible parent, who should be kept as far away from Britney as possible for the rest of his life. I don't necessarily feel sorry for him, but I also find it hard to take pleasure in the suffering of another human being, regardless of what they have done. It doesn't bring me joy to know that he's depressed and in poor health; everything that has happened with this dysfunctional family is just extremely sad and tragic, imo -- there's clearly a lot of intergenerational trauma there, and there's nothing funny about that. The only thing that would make me happy would be to see Britney get her life and freedom back. Making fun of Jamie's illness isn't going to accomplish that.
  13. uhm excuse me?? What is disgusting about a woman being confident in herself and showing off her body? If a man posted a shirtless selfie, would you call that disgusting too? If you think her body, or any human body for that matter, is something to be ashamed of or to be disgusted by, then I'm sad for you. I don't think there's anything wrong or unstable about this picture. She's just being herself, this is the Britney we saw in Chaotic, she's never been a prim and proper goody-two-shoes, she's always had a wild side. That's part of why I love her so much! We just haven't seen that side of her in a long time because she hasn't been allowed to be herself under the conservatorship. Anyway she looks smoking hot. Free those nipples girl!
  14. I read some books about parasocial relationships a while ago because I find it super interesting, and the way they describe it in this article is really simplistic and overly negative. In truth, almost everyone engages in parasocial relationships in one way or another. Whether it's daydreaming about someone you have a crush on, or being emotionally invested in a character in a TV show, or being a fan of a pop star. Or cultures where people are in touch with the spirits of their ancestors for example, those are parasocial relationships too in a way. It's something that has always existed throughout history and all over the world in some shape or form and probably always will, it's not limited to pop music fans. And also, apparently it's actually beneficial to have these types of relationships: they give a lot of people joy, and they also bring people together -- like, for instance, we wouldn't all be on this forum talking to each other if we weren't all Britney fans, so our parasocial relationship to Britney actually also connects us, and I think that's beautiful in a way? There's also a theory that engaging in parasocial relationships increases your capacity for empathy, because basically you're putting yourself in the shoes of someone you've never met. So yeah I find it a bit sad that it's being stigmatised in this article. There's a lot more to parasocial relationships than just writing people off as "lol crazy fans".
  15. Oh my god I feel this post in my soul... the DOVES! Yes queen spread your wings It's her turn to speak and I can't wait to hear all that she has to say after being silenced for so many years. I can't imagine how good & cathartic this must feel for her.
  16. I feel like a big, beautiful Britney & Sam wedding is exactly what this world needs to heal after the past 1,5 years
  17. I mean he could literally just type out some text, take a screenshot and claim "Britney wrote it"... This sounds more like fanfic than an actual text that Britney wrote
  18. This exactly! And I mean, on top of being sheltered for over a decade, she's always been a bit of a weirdo (in the best possible way!) If you've watched Chaotic, this sort of thing doesn't seem out of character for her at all. I think maybe sometimes people just don't like the way she expresses herself, and therefore refuse to believe it's her? But I think we should just love her the way she is, cringy internet humour included
  19. Omg I really hope she does!! I wonder if she's still been writing them throughout the conservatorship. I'd love for her to publish them someday. And ahh so cool that you write your own poetry too, so do I!
  20. You know, people disagreeing with you, or saying they think you're spamming, is not the same as silencing you. You're still posting, right? So how exactly are you being silenced?
  21. Thank you, that makes me so happy And yes you're right! Not sure how I didn't realise that, lmao. Gonna edit it now!
  22. So, I'm not sure if anyone will be interested in this But I'm very into poetry, so when I discovered that Britney used to write poetry to express her feelings and her voice, and often her desire for freedom too, I did some research and I thought I'd share! Some of it is actually really good, she's a woman of many talents And I also think it's a good time to look back on all the times Britney has used her own voice & spoken out, and to appreciate how strong and articulate she has always been. 1. "Honeymoon Poem" The first known poem Britney ever shared was on her website, where between 2004 and 2007 she kept a personal blog which she called "Letters of Truth". This poem is from November 2004 and is about her honeymoon with K-Fed It's not her greatest poem, but it's cute and fun and at this point she was just getting started. 2. "Remembrance of Who I Am", "Rebellion" & "All That She Wants" This is where things get a bit more dark, and where her desire for freedom and rebellion became apparent in her writing. "Remembrance of Who I Am" was published on her blog on May 22nd, 2006, though she took it down and put it back up several times over the next couple of weeks. Below are some screenshots and the full text. The pictures were taken on the set of her video for "Do Somethin'", which she co-directed herself under the name Mona Lisa ("Mona Lisa" of course being the title of a song she wrote which would have been on the unfinished/unreleased Original Doll album, as this was definitely a time when she was trying to gain more creative control over her music and image). In the 18 months between ‘Honeymoon Poem’ and ‘In Remembrance of Who I Am’, Britney clearly evolved as a writer. While ‘Honeymoon’ is cute, endearing, and a bit silly, ‘Remembrance’ is on a whole new level. It’s dark, angry, self-aware, personal, and defiant. The poem contains an almost Biblical evil dad motif ("Remember the Bible / The sins of the Father") and general references to being silenced, manipulated or abused, but at the same time also anger, revenge and strength. It's very dark but in a way also hopeful: there's a desire to break free from her chains and she depicts it almost as a rebirth ("Resurrection of my soul"). Some of these verses would later reappear in the unreleased song "All That She Wants", recorded in 2006 and leaked in 2008, which samples the Ace of Bass song. This version is even more explicit: "How can you men stand sleeping at night? / The silly pattern that I followed / I saw my mama being swallowed / By the one, who she loved / He pulled her down, couldn’t see up above." Here, she's clearly talking about the intergenerational trauma in her family, the patterns of abuse (her father abusing her mother, and the abuse then being handed down to her). Another part, "But, with me / You have a career? I can’t tell / I train you men so well" seems to imply that she felt K-Fed was leeching off her success. Full lyrics: And finally, some of these themes are also echoed in her infamous unreleased song "Rebellion", of which she posted a snippet on her official site in 2006, and which contains the lyrics "Be wary of others, the ones closest to you / The poison they feed you and the voodoo that they do / But in rebellion, there's a sparkle of truth" -- compare this with the voodoo references in "Remembrance". Full lyrics of the snippet: So here we see the same themes -- being wary of those closest to her, being manipulated by them ("voodoo"), wanting to break free, not wanting to sell her soul i.e. not wanting to sacrifice her happiness for money (as her team and her family want her to do). 3. "Who Decides?" This poem wasn't published on her blog (which disappeared in 2007, when Britney's opportunities for expressing herself were already slowly but surely being taken away from her, even before the conservatorship started). She apparently wrote this sometime in 2009, and it's very critical of the conservatorship, about the way her actions being controlled, and about the way she's being exploited for money. It was supposed to be included in the Sweet Dreams interlude during the Circus Tour, but of course her team didn't allow this. It has been circulating online for many years (after someone who supposedly worked on films for the tour leaked it), but disclaimer: there's really no way to verify 100% that she actually wrote it. I believe she did, though. Full text: 4. Britney Jean Poems These poems, which were included in the Britney Jean album booklet, are very different in tone. They're very dream-like, not at all dark or explicit or critical of her situation. I think it's clear that at this point, Britney was completely silenced by those around her, and had no avenues to express the truth of the abuse she endured. Still, I think the poems are good. They're also very Britney ("only one person can wear this red", yes queen!) I've transcribed them from her own handwriting in the booklet, so I'm not sure if they're 100% accurate: Sooo anyway thanks for listening to my TED Talk I actually did this research like two years ago to make a zine, but I thought I'd share it here too. I want to finish with these lines from "Remembrance of Who I Am": "You don’t see me now You ask yourself why My crown is back And it’s way too high For you to be in my presence" These prophetic words are finally coming true. Her crown is back. I'm so proud of her. Queen of poetry.
  23. It's impossible for us to know for sure really, but my theory is that it's a combination of many different things: * She's in a long-term relationship and wants to take the next step. * She has a boyfriend who is supportive, which probably gives her strength. * She's probably beginning to feel the pressure if she wants to have another child at her age, in a way that she maybe didn't when she was in her early/mid-30s, when it was probably easier to just think "we'll see, I still have all the time in the world". * Her involuntary stay at the mental health facility two years ago: I feel like that was maybe the straw that broke the camel's back in away, and from then on she started thinking about how she could get out of this. * Then there's the media attention that has been building up, especially after the documentary, so maybe she felt like, "it's now or never" in a way -- people are paying attention, the narrative has changed in her favour, so it makes sense for her to use that momentum. * As you say, COVID might have had something to do with it too: I know so many people who have made major changes in their lives over the past year, from cutting toxic people out of their lives to going back to school to getting sober. Lockdowns and isolation, plus the realisation that we're all vulnerable and life can be short, have caused people to reflect on what's really important, I guess, and on what they really want from life. * And finally it's probably also just a build-up of anger and frustration over the years, a person can only hold it in for so long before exploding. So yeah all of these factors together sort of explain it imo!
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