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  1. But why do people pretend this is a compliment to Britney? Beyonce Knowles (and Rihanna too) has never in her life recorded a song as great as Toxic whatsoever, especially when comparing the irrelevant Crazy in Love with the timeless Toxic; they laughably rank that Beyonce song over one hundred places above Toxic when they are well aware Toxic is a far greater song. And the fact that the critically acclaimed electronic duo Justice not only remixed, but later sampled a Britney Spears song (also from In the Zone) on their most enduring single from their most acclaimed album is further proof that there is not even a chance Beyonce's music is more influential than Britney's music. (Just like there is less evidence Beyonce is a songwriter compared to Britney.) So the question remains, why do people pretend?
  2. People focus maybe too much on Danja and Max Martin, but to me BLOODSHY & AVANT are the most important producers in her carreer and in her sound evolution. She was the most creative, and probably the most comfortable with them. And their collaboration was clearly working well since they were present on 4 albums (ITZ, Blackout, Circus, FF). They litterally created the "Britney Spears sound "of the 00's : electronic, dance, pop with groundbreaking productions. I wonder why most fans ignore her collaborations with Guy Sigsworth. He worked with her on two studio albums, produced her greatest ballad (which she composed) and produced some of her best material that probably should have been on her studio albums... And although they didn't necessarily work together, Justice did remix her song "Me Against the Music" and later sampled that same song in their most enduring hit "D.A.N.C.E. from their album Cross.
  3. Truth be told, the burden of proof isn't even on Britney Spears... Not to be disrespectful of Annet Artani, but it isn't like she has solo writing credits on any hit or evidence she can write her own riff or melody on a musical instrument, unlike Britney... (1:50)
  4. Of course this is probably false. This is just the media's lust for speculating about her If Britney wants to talk about it publicly then she can do it. If she doesn't want to do it then she's not going to.
  5. You should know by now the media is doing this on purpose, as they've mostly always done (like with Michael Jackson).
  6. "...it also brings up a compelling question about Spears’ career and artistic legacy...Pop songwriting is more laden with mythology than most entertainment products; credits can include people charged with writing toplines (vocal melodies), snatches of melody, or even bits that sound like already-existing hits...Run down the credits of Spears’ albums and you’ll see her name pop up under the lists of songwriters. What that actually might mean is fairly opaque; she could have written an entire song or just a line." https://time.com/6082333/britney-spears-legacy/ Translation: Because Beyonce Knowles is incapable of conceiving a hit song from her own mind, Britney Spears cannot write music... ""... Like with 'Everytime' I wrote the whole thing from scratch on the piano. Musically there was no track or anything. I was just at my house and I did the whole thing by myself. And then I went and I played it for [Guy Sigsworth] and I just basically told him exactly how I wanted the song to sound. And he was so amazing because there's a lot of producers you tell them things and they don't get it. And you're like oh, that's not the right way. He got it just right. He was amazing. And so that song specifically, you know, I did everything." https://www.hiponline.com/3276/britney-spears-interview-2003.html Again, the burden of proof is on Annet Artarni, not Britney Spears; Annet Artarni has 0 solo songwriting credits and there is no evidence she can write one or more melody or riff on a musical instrument by herself, on her own, unlike Britney Spears... (1:50)
  7. Yes, you can see the video being shot on location here:
  8. The Ronan Farrow article suggested that Britney's original contract obligated her to release 6 studio albums, is that accurate? Or was it 4 studio albums? Even if she had a 6 album obligation, couldn't she have amended her contract by 2004 or 2005 to give her more artistic freedom (and possibly not having to live in LA?) given all her past success? Sorry, but the vast amount of unreleased material out there is more enough to not call Blackout her 'artistic' peak, no matter how good 'Blackout' is. In fact, a self-composed single on In The Zone is enough not to call Blackout her 'artistic' peak. (Don't forget that "co-writer" to that single has 0 solo writing credits and no evidence of her writing own melody or riff on a musical instrument, unlike Britney) All that unreleased material suggests that Britney was blatantly looking to become a completely different artist not only in terms of songwriting, but in terms of her voice, which Blackout sure as hell does not achieve when comparing it to all her unreleased material from the 2000s. Britney's resiliency is admirable, but it is almost an impossible task to keep fighting the media; the shameful media has done what they've done well before Britney (Princess Diana, Michael Jackson and others) There needed to be a change in her artistic freedom way back in 2004-2005; she was still shooting multiple music videos back when she said she was focused on a family. Even if she had a 6 album deal, she should have been able revise her contract for far more autonomy, as her lack if autonomy directly contributed to 2007-2008. (While she was technically 'free' in 2007-2008, those years were still her worst years of her life till that point and previous artistic autonomy could have prevented those years from happening.)
  9. I don't want to know about her medical records; but Ronan Farrow's article is the piece that again suggested she took illicit drugs, not my post. And I didn't just quote TMZ; at the end of the day, Britney was the most scrutinized person in the world and both the media and paparazzi consistently reported that she tested negative for illicit drugs that whole period. Anything to suggest otherwise would be slanderous since Britney herself said in For The Record that drug use was not her problem during that time.
  10. That doesn't mean anything and what he said isn't evidence; the judge in Britney's conservatorship case cited Britney having dementia as a basis to put her in a conservatorship...
  11. Well many people from that time agree-paparazzi, media reports etc... she was taking prescription drugs back in 2007-2008 but my main point is that she was never abusing drugs like co****e or m*** or things like that, and the reporting from back then also supports this.
  12. I know the following topic is not the center piece of the article, but Britney did NOT abuse illicit drugs back in 2007-2008. I'm not saying that she never tried drugs in her entire life but to suggest that she abused drugs would be slanderous, as Britney's own words in For the Record said as much... I know that Julianne Kaye worked with her, but Britney in For The Record already implied in her own words that she did not abuse illicit drugs. And according to BOTH the negative media AND paparazzi's OWN reporting when she was the most scrutinized person in the world: "Sources tell TMZ that Lynne Spears, Kevin Federline and then-manager Larry Rudolph all pressured Britney to check herself in. We're told Spears acknowledged having emotional problems after her second child was born, but strongly maintained she did not have a drug or alcohol problem. We're told eventually the professionals believed Spears suffered from post-partum depression, made worse because she stopped taking Prozac. She was also emotionally crumbling because of a messy divorce and intense media scrutiny. After leaving Promises, as paparazzi waited for the golden shot of Britney drinking again, she began getting angry that she was at a rehab facility in the first place. Britney and her assistant, Allie Sims, called Promises multiple times, asking for a copy of the report showing that she tested dirty for drugs and/or alcohol when she checked in. We're told it took several days to get an answer. Only two reports were sent to Britney's rep, both showing no drug or alcohol use whatsoever. Most shocking, the first report was dated March 7, 15 days after Britney checked in. Sources say one of Britney's reps then called the facility and asked for any evidence of a dirty test, but she was told there was nothing in the file. The question -- if the first test was taken more than two weeks after Britney checked in, how could they treat her if they didn't know the problem?" https://www.tmz.com/2007/06/29/britney-claims-her-rehab-was-bogus/ "Earlier this week, Britney’s attorney Sorrell Trope told People the pop star had been passing her court-ordered drug tests, which will likely help Britney’s argument. “She’s passed her random drug tests,” Trope told People. “There’s been more than one. They came up negative.” https://www.accessonline.com/articles/lawyer-britney-passing-court-ordered-drug-tests-61079 https://www.accessonline.com/articles/britney-arrives-to-court-to-fight-for-extended-visitation-rights-61104 "...The judge also ordered Britney to make a “good faith” effort to follow his orders, which include undergoing random drug tests and obtaining a California driver's license. Since then, Britney has become a licensed driver, reportedly passed her drug tests and met with a parenting coach." https://extratv.com/2007/10/11/britney-files-emergency-motion-for-more-visitation/ "There are reports circulating that Britney's positive drug test last week was the result of Provigil, a prescription for treatment of narcolepsy. Well, we're told it ain't so. In generic drug testing -- the type performed on Britney -- there is not a special screening for Provigil. In addition, we know the tests actually performed on Spears (until last week) all came back negative, and she had been taking Provigil before that. The plot thickens." https://www.tmz.com/2007/11/12/analyzing-britneys-urine-its-not-provigil/ "A new report claims that Brit, 25, has failed her court-ordered drug test. However, there are multiple reports that the troubled singer tested positive for prescription drugs only. X-17 quotes a source saying there were no illegal drugs in her system." https://extratv.com/2007/11/12/did-britney-fail-a-drug-test/ "On Friday, Life & Style reported that Britney was tested for drug and alcohol use after being admitted to Cedars and the tests came back negative. “Her blood test just came back, and, thank God, it was clean. There are no traces of drugs or alcohol of any kind,” a source close to the Spears family told Life & Style." https://www.accessonline.com/articles/report-britney-had-two-guns-in-her-home-61994
  13. I'm not disputing Ronan Farrow did a good job on his recent article in the New Yorker, but I still do not agree that evidence from the period in question endorses the notion that she was ever a drug abuser of illicit drugs. I'm not saying that she has never tried drugs in her life, but the notion she was an abuser of illicit drugs during that period simply is not supported by BOTH the negative media's AND paparazzi's own reporting when she was the most scrutinized person in the world... "Sources tell TMZ that Lynne Spears, Kevin Federline and then-manager Larry Rudolph all pressured Britney to check herself in. We're told Spears acknowledged having emotional problems after her second child was born, but strongly maintained she did not have a drug or alcohol problem. We're told eventually the professionals believed Spears suffered from post-partum depression, made worse because she stopped taking Prozac. She was also emotionally crumbling because of a messy divorce and intense media scrutiny. After leaving Promises, as paparazzi waited for the golden shot of Britney drinking again, she began getting angry that she was at a rehab facility in the first place. Britney and her assistant, Allie Sims, called Promises multiple times, asking for a copy of the report showing that she tested dirty for drugs and/or alcohol when she checked in. We're told it took several days to get an answer. Only two reports were sent to Britney's rep, both showing no drug or alcohol use whatsoever. Most shocking, the first report was dated March 7, 15 days after Britney checked in. Sources say one of Britney's reps then called the facility and asked for any evidence of a dirty test, but she was told there was nothing in the file. The question -- if the first test was taken more than two weeks after Britney checked in, how could they treat her if they didn't know the problem?" https://www.tmz.com/2007/06/29/britney-claims-her-rehab-was-bogus/ "Earlier this week, Britney’s attorney Sorrell Trope told People the pop star had been passing her court-ordered drug tests, which will likely help Britney’s argument. “She’s passed her random drug tests,” Trope told People. “There’s been more than one. They came up negative.” https://www.accessonline.com/articles/lawyer-britney-passing-court-ordered-drug-tests-61079 https://www.accessonline.com/articles/britney-arrives-to-court-to-fight-for-extended-visitation-rights-61104 "...The judge also ordered Britney to make a “good faith” effort to follow his orders, which include undergoing random drug tests and obtaining a California driver's license. Since then, Britney has become a licensed driver, reportedly passed her drug tests and met with a parenting coach." https://extratv.com/2007/10/11/britney-files-emergency-motion-for-more-visitation/ "There are reports circulating that Britney's positive drug test last week was the result of Provigil, a prescription for treatment of narcolepsy. Well, we're told it ain't so. In generic drug testing -- the type performed on Britney -- there is not a special screening for Provigil. In addition, we know the tests actually performed on Spears (until last week) all came back negative, and she had been taking Provigil before that. The plot thickens." https://www.tmz.com/2007/11/12/analyzing-britneys-urine-its-not-provigil/ "A new report claims that Brit, 25, has failed her court-ordered drug test. However, there are multiple reports that the troubled singer tested positive for prescription drugs only. X-17 quotes a source saying there were no illegal drugs in her system." https://extratv.com/2007/11/12/did-britney-fail-a-drug-test/ "On Friday, Life & Style reported that Britney was tested for drug and alcohol use after being admitted to Cedars and the tests came back negative. “Her blood test just came back, and, thank God, it was clean. There are no traces of drugs or alcohol of any kind,” a source close to the Spears family told Life & Style." https://www.accessonline.com/articles/report-britney-had-two-guns-in-her-home-61994 Thoughts on this clear discrepancy?
  14. I agree that it Britney may have had a problem with controlled substances, but the evidence points to alcohol, not illicit drugs. The evidence throughout the whole 2007-2008 points away from illicit drugs whether people like it or not; she tested negative for illicit drugs for that the entire year, including that early 2007 period. https://www.tmz.com/2007/06/29/britney-claims-her-rehab-was-bogus/
  15. I'm not victim blaming, but this is what I've been talking about the years 2004-2005. There was no reason for her to keep living in the paparazzi capital of the world like that (and I'm talking about before having her kids), unless she had some contractual obligation. She even visited houses in Arizona in 2005 before she had her first kid, as an alternate destination. But, for whatever reason, she kept living in the paparazzi/media magnate capital back then. I don't know why.
  16. If Britney really put her foot down, she would have moved out LA back in 2004 or 2005 to Montana or Wyoming or New Mexico where she could have a better peace of mind and the pathetic paparazzi would quickly get bored of stalking her. In fact, there was a thread about this earlier this year about the fact that "she could’ve left LA before having kids...the paps were hounding her prior to the birth of her children...i mean this wasn’t some new thing Mj was already hounded by paps and princess Diana died because of them back in the 90s" The paparazzi and media already proved that they're willing to kill (Princess Diana) She obviously stayed in the spotlight because of her contractual obligations due to her decision to re-sign with Jive records to continue to release albums. You should know Jive NEVER cared about her well-being from the very beginning of her career in the first place; they just cared about making money off of her. The disgusting conservatorship revelations shouldn't be surprising when her own label was just as exploitative with her from the very beginning. At this point her father needs to be immediately removed so she can move on with her life (hopefully out of the industry)
  17. I understand that Britney is clearly a people pleaser 100%, but she 100% should have put her foot down way back in 2004-2005. It's not that she married Kevin Federline, it's that she SHOULD have left the industry all-together; which means moving to Wyoming or New Mexico or Montana or out of the country. (Nobody would even give a damn about her marriage, which is clearly what she would have preferred) If she wanted to attempt a comeback later, fine. But there was no reason in any way she should have been in any spotlight from the end of her Onyx cancellation to 2006, unless she was still in the industry, which she clearly chose to be. Nobody signs a contract for 8 albums. It's obvious she had to have re-signed at some point during 2004 2005 or 2006 and that decision kept her enslaved to the industry and her family. Maybe that set-up is "all she's known", but look at the abusive consequences. It's not like she wasn't an exploited teen star either. And she knew how worthless the media was by 2004 with the terrible Diane Sawyer interview and her 'Everytime' video, among lots of other reporting Yes, it got worse from 2007-2008 because of tmz, perez hilton, x17 etc... but she was already aware of the pathetic media by 2004. So despite her obvious resiliency throughout all these years, Britney has repeatedly craved for a normal life, and the only way that happens is if she makes the decision to leave the spotlight and industry and stop being a cash cow for her family.
  18. I actually agree with you here about her contractual obligations, but isn't this the point I've been making about the years 2004-2005? Did she really sign a record contract for 8 albums???? I don't think so. We know she wanted to become more of an artist after In The Zone and was frustrated with her label with her Do Somethin video and her Original Doll album, based on her own words. But somewhere around that period she had to have been persuaded in re-signing her contract. Then again, she may have had other contractual obligations to stay in LA (was releasing Chaotic something contractual?) At the end of the day, if Britney wanted to cement her musical artistry after In The Zone, you kind of do have to hold Britney responsible for not taking that step, if her contract was up around 2004-2005. Blackout is great but it can never be her artistic peak, as long as Britney composed 'Everytime'. (And the burden of proof IS on Annet Artarni since she has 0 solo writing credits and there isn't footage for her writing her OWN melody/riff on a musical instrument) As I've always said, I respect her resiliency but if she did have a choice back in 2004-2005 to either re-sign with her label or maybe restructure her deal/leave her label entirely for far more autonomy but didn't do so, I just don't know how you can hold others responsible for that.
  19. Despite recognizing her resiliency in a demented music industry and disgraceful media... This is the main point and problem I keep coming back too: Britney was clearly aware of how terrible the media (and industry) was by 2003/2004, not 2005, 2006, 2007 or 2008, even if 2006-2008 was worse. When you look back at her what she was feeling in those years it was a desire to be a normal person. Nobody signs a contract for 7 albums. Her contract had to have been up after In The Zone or her Greatest Hits album. And we already know her dissention with her label with her Original Doll album and the Do Somethin' video. If she was fed up with all the scrutiny, why didn't she "get the hell out of the business entirely" around 2004-2005??? Was she really still being forced to keep providing for extended family?? (I did see that during that time-2004-she did buy her father a restaurant in Venice Beach... http://popdirt.com/britney-spears-opens-a-new-restaurant-for-her-dad/34398/ I did read somewhere on Exhale that she had a contractual obligation to release something around 2005 and that's why she released Chaotic. Is that true? If so, she really did not pay attention to her contracts if she was craving a normal life. The time for Britney getting out of the spotlight was 2004/2005 not 2006-2008 (because things like Blackout, Circus are all contractual with Jive, requiring her to promote) So what is the real reason she never did? Despite her fame, if Britney truly wanted to put an end to this, she really could have back then, unless she was still tied up in contracts. Nobody would care about her marriage if she lived in New Mexico, Montana Wyoming etc.. (And she even thought about moving to Arizona in 2005) And we can all agree she would have had it that way rather than continuing to be scrutinized.
  20. At the end of the day, like Walsh said, you CANNOT blame the music industry. As I've said, I do admire Britney's resiliency BUT... She had a choice in 2004-2005 to stay or leave this industry. She didn't just retreat to have a family. She still shot two music videos in 2005. If she was still involved with music to that extent, if she really wanted to, she could have taken charge and left Jive Records and gone independent. She was clearly cognizant of the the scrutiny from 1999-2004 based on her own 'Everytime' video. We know there was dissention between her and her record label during this time, based on her own words. So I'm not blaming her. But she knew both the media and music industry were trash by 2004. For whatever reason, Britney clearly chose not to take charge of her career. Perhaps, this is just the set-up she's just most comfortable with. (Yet, no matter how good Blackout is, In The Zone is her artistic peak just because of 'Everytime' alone.) So in terms of the present day, since she remained in the spotlight we have to wait till what she says in court later this month. Hopefully what she does have to say helps bring the most peace to her, whether that also includes performing on stage again or not etc...
  21. As long as Britney stays in the spotlight/industry she will forever be subject to terrible treatment. She already knows how worthless the media has been since the early 2000s. I don't agree with scrutinizing her posts, but anybody with a brain knows that she's been made too famous for people to not care. She can only be truly free if she's away from the media/industry spotlight (and her parents/brother/sister and fans). That NEVER even happened from 2004-2006, because she was still signed to Jive and probably didn't even overhaul her record deal. We don't know what she's going to say the court later this month, but I hope she finds peace that includes privacy for herself.
  22. I 100% agree. I shouldn't even be posting in this thread because I almost never comment on her Instagram posts and never comment on her Instagram page. (And never will). She's posting things from the confines of her own home. Scrutinizing her over this is ridiculous.
  23. Her fans could have never helped her because there was a disconnect between her music audience and her celebrity. Just look at how this was pointed out by adults way back in JULY 2002: "Some people have made Britney out to be a prima-Donna, and she may well be, but look at it this way. Britney is still a kid. Britney has been on stage a long time for a kid. Does she have the prototypical "stage mother", always pushing her to perform, when she'd rather just hang out with her friends? Does she have a personal life at all? I don't think Britney has as much to do with the creation of her public persona as a lot of people think, because Britney is product. Like any other public person she winds up being picked to death by people who dislike her for what-ever reason. "unless that is you like britany spears", well, I do. I'm no big fan of hers as a performer, but then I'm not her target audience either. I like Britney the same way I like other kids. At the end of the day money, and fame mean very little to a lonely person trapped in a life that has been planned, managed, created, and structured, for the main purpose of gathering wealth for some management company. I fully support Britney Spears right to say "this sucks, and I'm outta here". https://forums.shoutcast.com/showthread.php?t=96208 This was already pointed only a little after 3 years after the start of her career, and her fans never realized this then because they were to young, hence the disconnect between her music audience and her celebrity. If there is one officially released Britney Spears song/video that truly has meaning it is this: The only way Britney can be truly free is if she is away from the industry, the media and her pathetic parents. (You know, in a place like Montana or Wyoming or New Mexico)
  24. The reality now is that Britney's legacy is simply making money for other people (record label, parents etc...), dating back all the way to ...Baby One More Time. Everytime truly is the only 'real' Britney Spears song. (She couldn't even release most of her own stuff) I get that Britney truly liked being put to work, and doing things for other people but she was exploited badly. She needs to be freed from her parents, her fans, the media, and this industry. I think the disconnect between her music audience and her celebrity was destructive. Even the pathetic Fred Durst pointed out way back in 2003: “Wow, this is just a very sweet Southern girl, just simple, you know, Southern girl,” he told Access Hollywood for an interview airing Monday about first meeting Spears. “But actually, she has a life like Michael Jackson. It’s, like, out of control. … The people around her, pulling at her, people around her that are full of sh**, just agreeing with her, like, it’s kind of crazy, she almost can’t see what’s real and what’s not.” https://popdirt.com/fred-durst-says-britney-spears-has-a-life-like-michael-jackson/12842/ I bet none of her fans thought about this back then, which is the problem with who her music was marketed to versus what her celebrity was/is. I stand by my repeated assertion that after In The Zone (because she was absolutely contractually obligated for those first 4 albums) she should have totally overhauled her record deal or simply leave her label/the industry alltogether.
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