JK Rowling accuses female Olympic boxer of being a man who hits women: “Paris, your safeguard is a joke” #Paris2024

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3 minutes ago, LoveYourselfMas said:

thanks your posts have swayed me. I am now anti trans.

thanks 

So you'll stop respecting people who recognize themselves as transgender? 'Cause that's all that matters...

[LoveYourselfMas]

After seeing this post I never knew so many people sided with JK Rowling. I do not want to join your group but I guess it’s popular 

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1 minute ago, A.a.A said:

Read above ^ biological male

So, here we go, there is actually two different things going on. There's IOC and there's IBA. Both responsible for evaluating the athletes. IBA understood that the athlete cited above has a Y chromossome. Another comitee, the IOC, didn't have the same results. There's apparenly some traits of corruption in the system of IBA. The athele which we are talking about was born female, raised female. 

"Khelif, however, was born a girl and grew up a cis woman - identifying with the gender she was assigned at birth. As a child, she was raised in a rural village and was unable to participate in sports because her father "did not approve of boxing for girls."

[LoveYourselfMas]

JK Rowling, Elon Musk. Donald Trump. 

[A.a.A]

1 minute ago, Fita said:

So, here we go, there is actually two different things going on. There's IOC and there's IBA. Both responsible for evaluating the athletes. IBA understood that the athlete cited above has a Y chromossome. Another comitee, the IOC, didn't have the same results. There's apparenly some traits of corruption in the system of IBA. The athele which we are talking about was born female, raised female. 

"Khelif, however, was born a girl and grew up a cis woman - identifying with the gender she was assigned at birth. As a child, she was raised in a rural village and was unable to participate in sports because her father "did not approve of boxing for girls."

Born with XY chromosomes.  Elevated Testosterone. Theres no argument.  Trust the science.

[LoveYourselfMas]

So they are both girls. Fine end of story. JK Rowling Zip it 

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7 minutes ago, LoveYourselfMas said:

So they are both girls. Fine end of story. JK Rowling Zip it 

Yes. That was never the case, being transgender. Both are cisgender. However JK Rowling said that one of the women wasn't classified as a woman because of her testosterone and IBA evaluation. So she began saying that it was like men beating women for entertainment, etc.

[A.a.A]

18 minutes ago, LoveYourselfMas said:

So they are both girls. Fine end of story. JK Rowling Zip it 

 

9 minutes ago, Fita said:

Yes. That was never the case, being transgender. Both are cisgender. However JK Rowling said that one of the women wasn't classified as a woman because of her testosterone and IBA evaluation. So she began saying that it was like men beating women for entertainment, etc.

No, one has XY chromosomes which means they have a biological, physiological and overall advantage over someone with XX chromosomes. This is what has been studied for 100s of years and is scientific fact. 

If the individual was “raised” as something else does not negate the biological, hormonal and physical advantage that they have over someone who is biologically female. This was a biological male, fighting a biological female.

This is science, this is fact. 

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3 minutes ago, A.a.A said:

No, one has XY chromosomes which means they have a biological, physiological and overall advantage over someone with XX chromosomes. This is what has been studied for 100s of years and is scientific fact. 

If the individual was “raised” as something else does not negate the biological, hormonal and physical advantage that they have over someone who is biologically female. This was a biological male, fighting a biological female.

This is science, this is fact. 

I understand. But IBA didn't inform exactly what happened in those tests. And in fact the argelian boxer might have (we don't know, it's one of the possibilities since she really was not born male) DSD which is a Disorder of s** development - conditions in which the reproductive organs and genitals do not develop normally. People with DSDs have a mix of male and female ***ual characteristics. That might have make the IBA not let the boxer be perceived as a woman. She's an inter***, in this case. 

All we know is that this argelian boxer has been receiving transphobic/hate comments towards her because of - mainly - JK Rowling emphasized...

[ToxicMadness]

12 hours ago, eduardo1993 said:

She is right, biologically an average man is stronger and faster than an average woman.

She's not right, she is shi*  and that girl Is not a trans girl! Can Someone check things first!?? And btw J.K Rowling Is a nuclear transfobic. We all known that by now. And EVEN if the girl was trans, that's NOT the way to call her! "they put a MALE to fight a female" what the actual fuc*! So disprectful!!

Disgusting. Burn all you HP book now please.

[BritneyWiki]

49 minutes ago, A.a.A said:

It is not tricky whatsoever. It is literally the most studied thing in human history. XY is a male, which means they have more testosterone than a female. It doesn’t matter what else you’re talking about. Their bones, muscles and over all skin tissue and organs are stronger. This is not a debate. She has a valid point. This is nonsense.

JK is frothing at the mouth to slam this athlete and turn it into an anti trans statement. It's too early to even know what is fully happening here. This athlete has built an entire career while following previous rules and regulations. Women born XY are not men. They do not have the same hormone levels or genitals as men. They are fully considered women at birth due to their anatomy. 

From Politico:

"There is no suggestion Khelif has done anything wrong. She is not known to have cheated by doping with testosterone, which is a naturally occurring hormone which both men and women produce. Boxers, need it be said, are supposed to punch each other very hard.

Nor is Khelif transgender. Unusually, she is reported to have XY s** chromosomes — most women have XX s** chromosomes — but Khelif was born female.

On Saturday, Khelif will return to the ring in the quarterfinals of the light welterweight division. Her opponent is set to be Anna Luca Hamori of Hungary."

Source: 

46 seconds of women’s boxing fanned the culture war flames – POLITICO

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Italian PM Meloni called the defeat of her compatriot against an athlete with who has previously been prevented...

 

[Emil87]

I thought people’s whole argument on this issue is that you are the s** you were assigned at birth. And since the boxer in question was born female, what exactly is the issue? Make it make sense. 
 

I for one am glad I never bought into the Harry Potter hoopla. JK Rowling is a disgusting human being. 

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14 minutes ago, Emil87 said:

I thought people’s whole argument on this issue is that you are the s** you were assigned at birth. And since the boxer in question was born female, what exactly is the issue? Make it make sense. 
 

I for one am glad I never bought into the Harry Potter hoopla. JK Rowling is a disgusting human being. 

Jk didn’t see it like that. She started calling one of them as male for some type of evaluation they had on IBA (an institution they have for these games rules, tests, etc)

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[A.a.A]

20 minutes ago, BritneyWiki said:

JK is frothing at the mouth to slam this athlete and turn it into an anti trans statement. It's too early to even know what is fully happening here. This athlete has built an entire career while following previous rules and regulations. Women born XY are not men. They do not have the same hormone levels or genitals as men. They are fully considered women at birth due to their anatomy. 

From Politico:

"There is no suggestion Khelif has done anything wrong. She is not known to have cheated by doping with testosterone, which is a naturally occurring hormone which both men and women produce. Boxers, need it be said, are supposed to punch each other very hard.

Nor is Khelif transgender. Unusually, she is reported to have XY s** chromosomes — most women have XX s** chromosomes — but Khelif was born female.

On Saturday, Khelif will return to the ring in the quarterfinals of the light welterweight division. Her opponent is set to be Anna Luca Hamori of Hungary."

Source: 

46 seconds of women’s boxing fanned the culture war flames – POLITICO

WWW.POLITICO.EU

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Italian PM Meloni called the defeat of her compatriot against an athlete with who has previously been prevented...

 

“Nor is Khelif transgender. Unusually, she is reported to have XY s** chromosomes — most women have XX s** chromosomes — but Khelif was born female.”

This statement is contradictory and makes no sense. The object of the sentence says they have XY chromosomes. Which indicates they are male. And they also state another fact: woman have XX chromosomes. They were not “born” female, they were “raised” female. Doesn’t mean she “is” female. So this sentence proves the point.  This is an individual who has had the advantage of XY chromosomes, which will ultimately advance over biological women in this space.

Edited August 2 by A.a.A

[Emil87]

21 minutes ago, Fita said:

Jk didn’t see it like that. She started calling one of them as male for some type of evaluation they had on IBA.

Well in that case, she’s a .

[Turogue]

5 hours ago, Gypsy Woman said:

Doesn’t change what I said though…stay mad.

It has nothing to do with the topic here. The person in question isn't trans. Stay mad.

[Turogue]

3 hours ago, A.a.A said:

XY chromosomes = male. If they are competing in female sports = trans

You need to educate yourself, the person isn't trans but interse×. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorders_of_***_development

[UnusualCammie93]

3 hours ago, Fita said:

So, here we go, there is actually two different things going on. There's IOC and there's IBA. Both responsible for evaluating the athletes. IBA understood that the athlete cited above has a Y chromossome. Another comitee, the IOC, didn't have the same results. There's apparenly some traits of corruption in the system of IBA. The athele which we are talking about was born female, raised female. 

"Khelif, however, was born a girl and grew up a cis woman - identifying with the gender she was assigned at birth. As a child, she was raised in a rural village and was unable to participate in sports because her father "did not approve of boxing for girls."

This! And look at how they are pushing this narrative to further demonise trans people.

[Gewakefie]

I’m confused can someone confirm is she trans or not cos that’s what it comes down too the article says not 

[Crabo Lavender Turmeric]

Sorry, not sure I get this? She is a cis biological woman who simply has higher testosterone levels? 

If that is the case, how can JK call her a man?