Question for Delusional Fans.

[Pinky98]

1 hour ago, GlitterRain said:

The truth?  And you know Britney is not fine because? Your own thoughts and opinions? Or the conspiracy theorists on TikTok?  

Key word: thoughts and opinions. Something everyone is entitled to have 

[Tetris]

Not sure how everyone being in agreement that Britney is working through vast trauma = we all are delusional and think everything is perfectly fine and that she is 100% OK?
She is inherently NOT OK because of:  what she’s been through; how it’s negatively affected her; and the myriad/unconventional ways that she is processing it all, which - as it would appear - seems to also be creating additional turmoil as opposed to healthy closure. (But it’s much easier to be judges of her motivations and reactions when these aren’t our own decisions and the outcomes don’t directly affect us.)

What we ARE saying is that Britney has a right to process on her own terms, regardless of whether it makes you or anyone else uncomfortable. Nobody is blind to the fact that her behavior and way of expressing herself is vastly different from her polished and perfected early days. But Britney has also been revealing since at least 2003 (basically 20 years now!) that the real her - when she’s off the clock as a pop star and marketed commodity - is messy and offbeat and chaotic (like, hello, that was even the name of her reality show that SHE filmed herself).

The uproar from us “delusional fans” is over the insanity that she’s being green screened, imprisoned by her husband, blackmailed by deep state shadow societies, in a secret off-the-books second conservatorship, abusing hard/prescription drūgs or spiraling into unchecked mania, publicly documenting her nude body as forced prøstitutiøn marketing, a mind control puppet of government agencies… These are all theories that have been claimed as the reason(s) for why she isn’t looking or behaving like it’s still 2001. It’s not the “delusional fans” who are holding onto an image of Britney in the past! It’s the conspiracy peddlers who refuse to accept how much she’s changed from what she’s been through, and who have decided - through outrageous ideas - that something insidiously nefarious is STILL going on because after the conservatorship there MUST be something else…and then something else, and then something else…

Not knowing the firsthand truth about somebody else’s life invites endless room to fill in the blanks for oneself. Because human nature forces one to determine answers for that which they do not understand. And it is much easier to believe in something over-the-top that stimulates continued engagement (and congratulates possession of clever, smarter-than-everyone-else “logic”) than it is to accept how much of reality is truly mundane as shït. 

But I guess we all have different ways of showing concern. And SHOWING concern has just as much - if not more - to do with how oneself is being perceived in relation to the thing, than it does for the thing itself. This is what the whole concept of virtue signaling is about! Likewise, being a crusader for justice for some horrific thing that you’ve decided is happening appears much nobler than looking passive and saying “I hope she’s okay, but I really don’t think it’s that deep.”

But something to keep in mind - especially with conspiracy theorists - is that they will only be satisfied once the thing they have been claiming is proven true. Which means - in essence - y’all kinda want this fücked up nonsense to be occurring to Britney because then you are proven right with all your hypotheses and concern and are therefore the better humans with smarter eyes and the fuller hearts. 

Personally, I just wish Britney the best on her continued journey; that she’ll request help if she wants it (if she even needs it); and that she might extend the courtesy to her fans - as a beloved public figure - and personally address some of her truth so that we may feel at ease and know that our support has been acknowledged. 

[Beardedwise]

Who is saying she's "fine"? I keep reading people saying she's not missing or being controlled and there's no conspiracy, but I don't think anyone would define Britney as doing "fine". She's seemingly in a very unhealthy place with her mental health. Nobody thinks she's fine, they just don't think there's some big secret. 

[KatieKat]

1 hour ago, GlitterRain said:

 

[Busybee]

57 minutes ago, ivosoares said:

I agree with you to a certain point, she was abused for many years and of course that leaves traces of trauma for your whole life, I can't even imagine the things that she must be going through emotionally. Remember she has been 'abandoned' by her whole family including her sons, which were the reason that she took the conservatorship for so long, that alone can break any person.

But for example: the video the Sam posted saying things like 'If you want your wife to be happy, just pretend you're listening' and Britney talking to him about something, him ignoring it. It looks WEIRD, I don't know if I like Sam or not (not my business, her business) but seeing it from social media, I'm still not sure if she's surrounded by the best people. But then again, this is my allegation and I don't know her, just saying how I feel looking at her Instagram which is nothing. The wedding stories, the selena gomez situation, the nerve pain, the trailer park stuff that she wrote. There's still things that we don't know that happened to her, and yeah she should reveal it when she's ready and she doesn't even owe it to us. Just food for thought sorry for the rambling <3 

First of all, thanks for being willing to have a actual conversation. I haven't read through the entire thread but your reply gave me a different perspective. I'm curious to know if you are from the US?

The saying you are referring to is a very common joke. It's like "happy wife, happy life" It's not politically correct ill admit but in the south there is a running joke that woman actually wear the pants and control things in the marriage. We don't actually mean that most healthy relationships everyone is treated equally.

But I can now understand the optics of her page and even Sams can seem weird because of cultural or language barriers. I am also Mexican and some sentences in Spanish don't make any sense in English and I am wondering if that is part of what is causing the confusion

I just found it interesting and thought it was worth mentioning because the stuff you brought up doesn't seem odd or weird to me at all

[PokemonSpears]

I think the "delusional" are others.

 

What really bothers me the most is not that "people are concerned". Is that all those comments on her Instagram or over here, don't come from a place of genuine concern, at least for the most part they come from a place of judgement. 

It's the fact that since she doesn't abide to your standards of what a celebrity should look like or post on social media, therefor there's GOTTA be something wrong with her, when in reality, we're not seeing her in her every day life.

I would give you the point if we were seeing footage of Britney on the streets or at a public place like, idk, at Walmart or whatever, truly acting erratically and talking nonsense. Or if she was getting interviewed and no one could understand what she's saying or she would start doing weird things, or idk, that we had actual evidence that she indeed needs help. But when we actually get a candid of her acting normal in public, then it's gotta be a montage, a green screen, it's old, etc. 

It's gotten to a point where all those "concerned people" act like they truly wish Britney is indeed in a very bad state just to prove us all wrong, just to brag about how they knew it all along and feel like some sort of hero. 

Dancing in her living room, posing naked, wearing "bad makeup", posting old pictures/clips, not having a perfect grammar on an IG caption are not signs of a person having issues or some medical condition, or being in danger or whatever that may spark the concern of all of you, the good people of the world. 

So yes, it becomes a problem because you're not helping her by judging her based on her posts, the only thing you all are helping is to perpetrate Team Con's narrative, and THAT is what all of you don't want to see.  If y'all are so worried and you live in the US then call the police or call 911 to check on her, or go sit outside her house like that Jason Alexander to see her with your own eyes. You may get arrested for stalking, but I mean, that would be more helpful than writing the same old comments in every single post or trying to convince others of the psychological diagnosis you just did on Britney based on her Instagram activity. 

[ivosoares]

8 minutes ago, Busybee said:

First of all, thanks for being willing to have a actual conversation. I haven't read through the entire thread but your reply gave me a different perspective. I'm curious to know if you are from the US?

The saying you are referring to is a very common joke. It's like "happy wife, happy life" It's not politically correct ill admit but in the south there is a running joke that woman actually wear the pants and control things in the marriage. We don't actually mean that most healthy relationships everyone is treated equally.

But I can now understand the optics of her page and even Sams can seem weird because of cultural or language barriers. I am also Mexican and some sentences in Spanish don't make any sense in English and I am wondering if that is part of what is causing the confusion

I just found it interesting and thought it was worth mentioning because the stuff you brought up doesn't seem odd or weird to me at all

I'm from Portugal, Europe

I actually learned about that saying a few years ago, I've lived in other countries but honestly men who say that... usually are like kinda dumb in my opinion. It's a very old school type of mentality, but maybe it was just a joke Sam made and in the whole scheme of the videos it looks weird.

Also the video where she's saying 'I'm always live, what are you talking about?' That is concerning as well. I think she thought that being live was her posting on Instagram all the time, that's the only explanation I have.

And I know that this sounds like really insulting maybe, but Britney used to be one of the best dancers in the pop world, even technique wise. The videos now... it's like watching Mariah Carey at the Rockefeller at 2014.

[gar]

1 hour ago, Style. said:

Allegedly someone in this community was in bed with Sam Lufti. 

Is S Luts still looking to get back in?

[gar]

5 minutes ago, PokemonSpears said:

or go sit outside her house like that Jason Alexander to see her with your own eyes. 

Yeah, maybe don't do that..

[Tetris]

17 minutes ago, Busybee said:

First of all, thanks for being willing to have a actual conversation. I haven't read through the entire thread but your reply gave me a different perspective. I'm curious to know if you are from the US?

The saying you are referring to is a very common joke. It's like "happy wife, happy life" It's not politically correct ill admit but in the south there is a running joke that woman actually wear the pants and control things in the marriage. We don't actually mean that most healthy relationships everyone is treated equally.

But I can now understand the optics of her page and even Sams can seem weird because of cultural or language barriers. I am also Mexican and some sentences in Spanish don't make any sense in English and I am wondering if that is part of what is causing the confusion

I just found it interesting and thought it was worth mentioning because the stuff you brought up doesn't seem odd or weird to me at all

EDIT: I probably should have sent this response to the person you were replying to. I think you already get what I was saying because I’m basically agreeing with you. Sorry!
 

Sam and Britney both have outdated views of gender dynamics. For instance, Britney’s always just “women love shopping, clothes, bubble baths, candles, and makeup.”
She’s not wrong, but she’s still being very limited in what she’s saying is at the top of women’s lists. It reminds me of all the controversy around Victoria’s Secret (and Britney is 100% a VS girl, considering she copied two of their runway outfits). SOME women really ARE all about that stereotypical feminine stuff, whereas others find it demeaning/close-minded. Some women find wearing high heels empowering; others hate it and think it plays into the male gaze. 

Sam is very much playing to the same kind of wine mom, old school way of thinking. He just repeats slogans he reads on coffee mugs because that’s the culture he believes is the most mainstream and least controversial. 

Edited December 21, 2022 by Tetris

[Pinky98]

1 hour ago, GlitterRain said:

I think she is avoiding the public and the media and others think that they own her for whatever strange reason and she MUST show herself and do this or that. I even said I wished she called out the conspiracy theorists but it’s not up to us to dictate what she does. She’s over the media and Hollywood life and she’s pulled back, which has made fans very nervous. 
 

I think the fans and GP are turning this into something more than it needs to be. She’s a victim of conservatorship abuse and being trafficked, of course things aren’t 100%. Would they be for you? Absolutely not! That doesn’t mean that she’s this or she’s that. Or some of the other ridiculous conspiracy theories that are going around. She owes us nothing but the world feels like she owes us everything. 
 

She’s a multimillionaire who can afford doing things to have privacy and have things brought to her home. I think she is purposefully avoiding being seen as much as possible and I don’t think there is anything wrong with her.

You’re setting rules for the forum based on your personal views, that’s what this looks like 

[gar]

1 hour ago, LikeRight said:

LOL

What's so funny?

[GlitterRain]

4 minutes ago, Pinky98 said:

You’re setting rules for the forum based on your personal views, that’s what this looks like 

You do realize we are contact with Jordan… Right?  Give it a rest, Pinky. 

[OneLife]

I would love an explanation of how conspiracies whether true or false can help her problems? Give her the time she needs, she experienced all the trauma and not you.

[godneyjspears]

YAWWWWN 

“are u ok?” and “somethings definitely wrong” and “she’s still not free” AND ALL SIMILAR NARRATIVES are so tiring I stg 

Her Mental Health Shouldn’t be discussed and isn’t our business, nobody’s denying anything they’re just trying to be respectful and not discuss Britneys mental health.. I’m sure she wouldn’t want randoms speculating on her MH situation regardless of what that actually is 

And in regards to the conspiracies sometimes I think some of y’all are super bored now the conservatorship is over that you are making stupid reasons why she still isn’t free it’s exhausting lol - just my opinion 

[Eternalhouse]

This thread itself is so passive-aggressive that it's not even worth explaining.

Anyone who calls people who disagrees to conspiracies 'delusional', and asks in such a sarcastic way, seems just like an attack rather than really trying to understand the others opinion, and is probably not gonna change their views even with a logical explanation. so.... pass.

[Onyxgirl17]

1 hour ago, Viking84 said:

Don't you think it's weird she wants to hide away when those who wronged her walk free and want her silenced/dead? Do you really think she wants to be quiet after 13 years of being silenced. She has said she wants her voice heard. None of this is consistent with what we have heard her say.

No I don’t think that’s weird at all tbh. And she has made her voice heard many times this past year with voice recordings and insta posts. She has to be careful because there is still legal drama ongoing which is probably one of the reasons why posts get deleted pretty quickly sometimes. 

[Onyxgirl17]

1 minute ago, godneyjspears said:

YAWWWWN 

“are u ok?” and “somethings definitely wrong” and “she’s still not free” AND ALL SIMILAR NARRATIVES are so tiring I stg 

Her Mental Health Shouldn’t be discussed and isn’t our business, nobody’s denying anything they’re just trying to be respectful and not discuss Britneys mental health.. I’m sure she wouldn’t want randoms speculating on her MH situation regardless of what that actually is 

And in regards to the conspiracies sometimes I think some of y’all are super bored now the conservatorship is over that you are making stupid reasons why she still isn’t free it’s exhausting lol - just my opinion 

Yes, this is getting tiring… imagine how Britney feels. I understand why she turned off the comments… it’s probably brought some peace. 

[rik LVR]

2 hours ago, Style. said:

Allegedly someone in this community was in bed with Sam Lufti. 

It was @i sometimes sing live 

[godneyjspears]

1 hour ago, Tetris said:

Not sure how everyone being in agreement that Britney is working through vast trauma = we all are delusional and think everything is perfectly fine and that she is 100% OK?

Not sure how being respectful and not discussing her mental health and not believing TikTok conspiracies = we all think everything is perfectly fine and that she is 100% OK?

*btw this isn’t aimed at you your post is nice and makes sense this is just in general at the conspiracy theorists and people advocating for free discussion of her mental health*