BlackBox whistleblower Alex Vlasov refuses to give documents to Jamie Spears

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

39 minutes ago, nwonder said:

Damn disappointed in Alex 

Don't be. He's essentially making sure Jamie doesn't get his hands on the recordings.

[blackingouthenegativity]

Another conspiracy theory debunked

[KrisJ]

So basically Alex refuses to hand over the recordings to JAMIE and his toad of a lawyer? Not Britney and team.

The OP and title should be updated - this conspiracy theories need to dance your ffffff off! 

[nwonder]

1 hour ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

Don't be. He's essentially making sure Jamie doesn't get his hands on the recordings.

Ah gotcha 

[doomphantom1]

10 hours ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

All my opinion.

Lisa Macarley's support of the movement was very well intentioned and her insight into the probate court, at the time, was incredibly helpful. However, she has not been as helpful as she once was as she very much focuses on Ingham, rather than the system around Britney. I heard it said that if you ask a professional to solve a problem, they will address it in regards to their profession, and that plays into this; while it gives insight, it can create a level of tunnel vision. 

I'd take this with a grain of salt, as she is not part of Britney's team and Alex Vlasov has played his part; he blew the whistle by going onto the documentary, and verified his information with both the New York Times AND more importantly, Sherine Ebadi; he owes noone else an explanation or any further comment. Additionally, Rosengart is currently fighting to make sure Jamie Spears is not getting access to Britney's information, which includes the Ebadi Report. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone is being told by their teams and counsel to hush up at the risk of giving the otherside an advantage.

Finally, at this point, individuals like Cocky have done more to harm the movement than to benefit it and the level of baseless conspiracy they share is not helpful nor necessary. 

Once again, all my opinion.

Sam Ingham had a sacrosanct attorney client relationship with B and he violated that and as a result, violated her constitutional rights.  Lisa McCarley is right to after him and the courts.  B's family is corrupt.  That's never going to change.  But the courts made it legal to milk her and Lisa's right to go after them.

[Elri]

11 hours ago, MbbGasoline said:

Lisa has a non-profit and she is filing as a friend of the court, I think... she also filed a petition to end the conservatorship, too, as I recall. 

It's ironic how the court has essentially ignored any extra parties like the "fans" that tried to get Judge Penny ousted....

I don't think Lisa's filings ever got addressed.

Anyways, I wonder if that's what Rosengart was wanting to tell Judge Penny privately. So sad for Britney, if true.

Edit: after further reading the thread, this can be deleted. I don't feel quite the same, especially the last paragraph is not correct.

Edited October 14, 2022 by Elri
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[halfdressed]

I mean, he’s already said what he said… Right? So it’s not like blackbox can either bully him or pay him off because he would just have to take the legal consequences of making up some story about why he claimed to have proof when he never did. I just don’t understand how he could back out after the allegations. 

[queenofhearts]

3 hours ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

Don't be. He's essentially making sure Jamie doesn't get his hands on the recordings.

Jamie wants to edit those tapes. He's an effin arsehole

[Daniela.tomasseli]

Op edited besties 

[SlayOut]

12 hours ago, PokemonSpears said:

I think she's replying to a thread of his "exposing" Rosengart, and apparently gets on zoom calls with him and others 

Tells you everything you need to know about Lisa

[Guest]

Well thank goodness Alex is fending off Jamie, not betraying Britney. Had me worried

[Psammead]

I'm sorry, but what is everyone talking about? How did Lisa MacCarley end up part of this thread? I don't see anything in the first post related to her. And how do you get from Alex not turning over documents to Jamie, to the case being fried? Why would he? Jamie just wants to use them as a weapon. That doesn't mean Alex has reneged.

Did posts get mixed up? And who is Corky?

 

[Catalin]

13 hours ago, jokobish said:

I’m sorry, but are we not gonna talk about how this case is turning out weird

We are not allowed to. 

[Catalin]

13 hours ago, jokobish said:

What is going on with this Court case!! I don’t want to turn into banon, but are bizarre things not happening ???

Damage control. It's been obvious since last year. 

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

46 minutes ago, Catalin said:

We are not allowed to. 

You are allowed though. You just gave to make sure what you're saying has basis and isn't removed from its context.

[Persona]

Surprise. This turned out to be grossly misinterpreted, more than that, it was straight up lies.

The fact that Lisa is entertaining BAnon conspiracists is disappointing, especially because they’ve already proven their beliefs and the people they support leads to dangerous situations and I can’t wrap my head around why a literal lawyer would willingly converse with people like that. She was great in the beginning but none of this is excusable, BAnon shouldn’t be given a voice under any circumstance. They don’t do anything but cause chaos and harm.

[Tar_isa]

So I just saw the new stuff... does Lisa lack basic reading comprehension? One would think a lawyer familiar with that court would be more careful in what she says, no? She made it seem like Alex was turning on Britney and it just turns out he did give the evidence to Rosengart and the NYT he just doesn't want to give the files to Jamie unless the court explicitly orders him to, because he could be incriminating himself.

It honestly looks like she's out of her depth and has a bit of a saviour complex. MAkes me sad, because I used to see her as a great advocate and she probably has good intentions but now I simply don't trust her.

 

[easy]

2 hours ago, Psammead said:

I'm sorry, but what is everyone talking about? How did Lisa MacCarley end up part of this thread? I don't see anything in the first post related to her. And how do you get from Alex not turning over documents to Jamie, to the case being fried? Why would he? Jamie just wants to use them as a weapon. That doesn't mean Alex has reneged.

Did posts get mixed up? And who is Corky?

 

the original post was a tweet from known conservatorship lawyer and pro spears family woman lisa mccarley responding to known banon and sam asghari anti's (c0cky) twitter thread about why rosengart shouldn't be trusted. in lisa's tweet she stated that vlasov was no longer cooperating and that she had also been served. it was purposely vague to lead people to believe he was no longer cooperating with team britney, when in reality it's team con. 

[Catalin]

2 hours ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

You are allowed though. You just gave to make sure what you're saying has basis and isn't removed from its context.

Translation: Make you're fangirling over Britney's legal team, or else you're out. 🙃

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

7 hours ago, queenofhearts said:

Jamie wants to edit those tapes. He's an effin arsehole

Not necessarily, that would be pointless if other sources can counter it. I'd be more inclined to presume that he wants them so he can recontextualise them and attempt to justify them in line with his powers as Conservator, in line with what the court already approved...

Think about it;

His side have denied the existence of the recording in court and attempted to paint the NYT documentaries as Tabloid fodder (despite his previous counsel using them as a platform). That's a very definite statement to make, and others have denied their involvement. The recordings very existence places Team Jamie in hot water. Denying them outright means that someone along the line purposefully misrepresented informed to the courts...

Team Jamie has to now explain recordings they denied existed using preexisting court records OR recontextualise them, using court records. 

This is all my opinion though.