BlackBox whistleblower Alex Vlasov refuses to give documents to Jamie Spears

[Slayer]

18 minutes ago, PokemonSpears said:

I think she's replying to a thread of his "exposing" Rosengart, and apparently gets on zoom calls with him and others 

Yikes 

[Ghoulia]

Too bad Lisa can't or won't share the doc with us.  That would be helpful. 

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

40 minutes ago, DiamondCircus said:

This all seems to be crumbling so quickly, I wonder if that's why Britney is reportedly open to settling for a cash payout.

Britney has a very strong case for a trial. This is why Rosengart is focused on making it clear that the conservatorship was never appropriate, that there was a conflict of interest and that individuals breached their duties, failed to act in Britney's best interest and  purposefully acted beyond the scope of the court or misrepresenting misinformation...

However, this isn't a trial. As of now, it's a Probate issue, and the scope of the probate court is far narrower than the extent that Rosengart is arguing. 

The recent filings invite Rosengart to show his proof as evidence.

[Stannedforever]

Not to be that person, but I find it extremely harmful that Lisa, or anyone else is trying to insert themselves to the case RN. I mean... It was important when Britney was still under conservatorship and her lawyer was part of team C, but now? I don't think she tries to be malicious but the way how she communicates with infamous bAnon member in twitter is big red flag.

 

I get that fans are speculating about the case, but a lawyer..?

[GirlOnTheMoon]

Why are people paying so much attention to Lisa inserting herself? She’s deranged and has main-character syndrome, nothing new there…But I do find concerning that he’s not cooperating anymore, he had key evidence and first hand communication with the people that bugged Britney’s house. I feel like his cooperation is imperative for Britney’s case…or maybe I’m wrong? 

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

4 minutes ago, GirlOnTheMoon said:

Why are people paying so much attention to Lisa inserting herself? She’s deranged and has main-character syndrome, nothing new there…But I do find concerning that he’s not cooperating anymore, he had key evidence and first hand communication with the people that bugged Britney’s house. I feel like his cooperation is imperative for Britney’s case…or maybe I’m wrong? 

He has given the evidence to Rosengart, and verified it with Sherine Ebadi. Until this goes to trial, there is nothing else he can do or needs to do as of now. Rosengart has made it clear that this isn't a trial and therefore, deposing anyone with information on Jamie Spears is not needed.

[easy]

ahh yes miss pro conservatorship pro family reconciliation pro "lisa for lynne" 

as far as vlasov, if true unsurprising. he had A LOT to lose with the information he provided. 

[yourstruly]

Ok so Rosenrot has to prove extortion and threats against Alex then, no problem.....

[BrittonJeanSpears]

1 hour ago, generation glory said:

Likely scenario, but I wouldn’t say persuaded I’d say someone threatened harm to his life if he didn’t shut up.

That's why I put persuaded in air quotes lol

[AjBritFan]

1 hour ago, BrittonJeanSpears said:

Or if Edan showed up to his place and "persuaded" him to keep his mouth shut for his own safety. AGAIN.

Again? Did he say Edan had tried to do this before/threatened him?

[Guest]

So he doesn't feel safe or trust Britney's team, is it? Wonder why

[jokobish]

I’m sorry, but are we not gonna talk about how this case is turning out weird

[DiamondCircus]

1 hour ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

Britney has a very strong case for a trial. This is why Rosengart is focused on making it clear that the conservatorship was never appropriate, that there was a conflict of interest and that individuals breached their duties, failed to act in Britney's best interest and  purposefully acted beyond the scope of the court or misrepresenting misinformation...

However, this isn't a trial. As of now, it's a Probate issue, and the scope of the probate court is far narrower than the extent that Rosengart is arguing. 

The recent filings invite Rosengart to show his proof as evidence.

Hopefully he has enough as Judge Penny ruled against almost all of his arguments to go back further than the 12th accounting.

 

[Lola2790]

Team con members as a group, seem to have the power to operate outside the law with no consequences whatsoever. Vlasov couldn't stand a chance.

 

[blackingouthenegativity]

19 minutes ago, jokobish said:

I’m sorry, but are we not gonna talk about how this case is turning out weird

We don't know yet. This is a random person trying to insert herself who is talking to conspiracy theorists on Twitter. 

Furthermore, another user pointed out that Alex has turned over some evidence already, so perhaps this is being presented out of context. He may not be cooperating anymore because he has cooperated as much as he can. Let's wait and see what the full truth is before we jump to conclusions.

It's one thing when Team Con was still in control, but I still trust Rosengart as of right now. 

[Watch Me Work It]

that twitter thread

taking things out of context, still not trusting her Instagram, then using her Instagram as evidence... BAnon should make up their minds already. And I don't trust Lisa so I'll take this with a grain of salt. 

[GirlOnTheMoon]

2 hours ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

He has given the evidence to Rosengart, and verified it with Sherine Ebadi. Until this goes to trial, there is nothing else he can do or needs to do as of now. Rosengart has made it clear that this isn't a trial and therefore, deposing anyone with information on Jamie Spears is not needed.

That makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me ❤️

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

33 minutes ago, DiamondCircus said:

Hopefully he has enough as Judge Penny ruled against almost all of his arguments to go back further than the 12th accounting.

 

Yes, because all of the issues they're dealing with are related to the 12th accounting. They need to close the books to get it out of probate court but they're still dealing with objections to the 12th accounting. All parties involved appear to gearing towards trial (I mean, you don't hire criminal lawyers for nothing) but the recent filings have been huge...

Tristar's legal team have played a very smart game; they're only asking that they deal with the immediate issue and stay focused on the 12th accounting, which is what the probate court should be used for...

Rosengart has mountains of evidence, but it may not be directly connected to the twelve accounting. All Judge Penny has done is basically invited him to make her rethink, which is why the 2010 issues will be important. All he has to do is join the dots and lead the judge to the argument eg. We have proof of X,y,z. If X,y,z is true, then it can be applied to A,B,C which brings the 12th accounting into issue.

 

Keep in mind, there's a 13th accounting also...THAT ONE will be interesting. 

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

2 minutes ago, GirlOnTheMoon said:

That makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me ❤️

No problem at all. This is all my opinion based on the information I have seen!

[DiamondCircus]

11 minutes ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

Yes, because all of the issues they're dealing with are related to the 12th accounting. They need to close the books to get it out of probate court but they're still dealing with objections to the 12th accounting. All parties involved appear to gearing towards trial (I mean, you don't hire criminal lawyers for nothing) but the recent filings have been huge...

Tristar's legal team have played a very smart game; they're only asking that they deal with the immediate issue and stay focused on the 12th accounting, which is what the probate court should be used for...

Rosengart has mountains of evidence, but it may not be directly connected to the twelve accounting. All Judge Penny has done is basically invited him to make her rethink, which is why the 2010 issues will be important. All he has to do is join the dots and lead the judge to the argument eg. We have proof of X,y,z. If X,y,z is true, then it can be applied to A,B,C which brings the 12th accounting into issue.

 

Keep in mind, there's a 13th accounting also...THAT ONE will be interesting. 

I think that sounds good, however feels like a reach. There's also statute of limitations and as long as things are being held up and pushed aside there won't be a case. I think that's why reportedly Britney is close to just settling for a payout. 

I'm hoping B will get justice, but it feels like that might not happen by time a possible criminal investigation is opened.