Steel Magnolia Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Fellow Super Sleuths, I'm going to be starting my Ph.D. in September and am already getting too busy to participate in sleuthing the way I used to. Can ya'll help me update the sources for my Chronological Timeline so that we have them all in one place? Google Drive: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oRaWDI27P0yucmEE4R13xk9v6cWWSX9PwlayJ6tZEaA/edit?usp=sharing What I'm looking for: Sources for each entry (MLA format, if possible). Missing entries (Key dates that had a legal impact). My timeline focuses specifically on the legal aspects of Britney's case, particularly in terms of her finances, so I tend to hold off on adding entries until: The source is verified to be solid, or The new entry dovetails with an existing entry, or The new entry helps support a legal argument. So... If you would like to suggest an entry, please include the piece of law that applies or a justification of why the event should be added. Britney has a long and illustrious career so it would be easy to fill this timeline with pop culture facts...But I'm going for something a bit different here. Anyway... Please scroll through the Google Drive link above and comment below. Thanks, Sleuths! Related: #ResearchThread #BritneySuperSleuths 3 Quote Link to comment
Exhale+ Ghoulia Posted June 16 Exhale+ Share Posted June 16 Just so I understand the assignment - you're looking for sources for the currently unlinked events? For example: Oct. 15, 1998 - Britney Spears registers Britney Touring, Inc. in the state of Louisiana through business manager Stacy Smith of Stacy Smith & Associates, 1503 Colley Avenue, Norfolk, VA, 23517, using the Corporation Service Company, 1201 Hays Street, Tallahassee, Florida, 32301-2525. (Company No. 34698963D) Source: Exhibit A, "Application By Foreign Corporation For Authorization To Transact Business in Florida," Wright Entertainment Group, LCC and Wright Entertainment Group, Inc. vs. Britney Spears and Britney Touring, Inc., In The Circuit Court Of The Ninth Judicial Circuit In And For Orange County Florida, December 18, 2007. (Case No. 48-2007-CA-014233-O Div. 32) Exhibit A isn't linked. You're looking for Exhibit A? 1 Quote Link to comment
RebellionSparkles Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Adding to @Ghoulia comment Obvs a link as a source, but do you need info about the source for a citation? edit: didn’t read closely—I see MLA is ideal Quote Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, Ghoulia said: Just so I understand the assignment - you're looking for sources for the currently unlinked events? I'm looking for sources for the events that have no sources at all. I'm also looking for events that should be added, e.g. the $50-million loans...There are a number of Research Threads where we turned up lots of great dirt, but it didn't get added to the Timeline at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment
RebellionSparkles Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Do yall have a copy of the original pdf (non searchable) to this document? Britney Spears - court document - 20190507 - BC642177 - Lufti - temporary restraining order w original RO in exhibits I noticed potentially bad photoshop in Exhibit E. I processed the docs with OCR to make them searchable--but now I'm curious to compared the post OCR'd doc to the original (which i deleted). "Attached hereto as Exhibit E is a true and correct copy of a screenshot from Lynne Spears' phone evidencing the return of Mr. Lutfi's unwanted bribe." Quote Link to comment
BritneyGXKB Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Can sources covering said information be from years later or more contemporary sources? Because I did find a paper mag article from 07 that I’m not sure was listed. https://pagesix.com/2007/04/20/dad-spanks-naughty-britney/ The language in the headline is a little questionable but again 2007. Also one from Cleveland news about Britney being released from rehab in March 2007 after being admitted in February. https://www.cleveland19.com/story/6258242/britney-spears-completes-rehab/ and possibly a truly tasteless 2020 Newsweek article by a Miss Marina Watts that desperately tried and failed to normalize the very idea of a conservatorship. https://www.newsweek.com/fans-still-think-britney-spears-being-held-against-her-will-heres-why-1517707?amp=1 1 Quote Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 10 hours ago, BritneyGXKB said: Can sources covering said information be from years later or more contemporary sources? Because I did find a paper mag article from 07 that I’m not sure was listed. https://pagesix.com/2007/04/20/dad-spanks-naughty-britney/ The language in the headline is a little questionable but again 2007. Also one from Cleveland news about Britney being released from rehab in March 2007 after being admitted in February. https://www.cleveland19.com/story/6258242/britney-spears-completes-rehab/ and possibly a truly tasteless 2020 Newsweek article by a Miss Marina Watts that desperately tried and failed to normalize the very idea of a conservatorship. https://www.newsweek.com/fans-still-think-britney-spears-being-held-against-her-will-heres-why-1517707?amp=1 It depends on the situation, but for the most part, sources from at the time are best. Example: If I was trying to track Britney's movements in the 24 hours leading up to rehab I'd want to go with the pure, unfiltered sources from that day since we know that Larry loved to plant misinformation in the gossip blogs to cover up for things in the days that followed. Court documents are better than journalist's stories, and journalist's stories are better than gossip blogs sometimes. We know that Larry liked to work with TMZ, Britney/Lutfi liked to work with X17, Jamie liked to talk with Fox News, and Laura Wasser preferred Extra! ...So sometimes the X17 stories are far more accurate than anything. Quote Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 At some point soon... I need to set aside a full day to update the Chronological Timeline with all of the suggestions being made to the Google Doc and with all of the goodies we dug up in the Research Threads. I'll update the Exhale thread to match. And then I'll just leave it to the rest of you to do with it what you'd like, e.g. copy and paste into other formats, to make your own timelines. I might drop off the face of the Earth in September, depending on how busy I get, so I'll try to get it to a place where it can continue on without me. Quote Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 12 hours ago, RebellionSparkles said: Do yall have a copy of the original pdf (non searchable) to this document? Britney Spears - court document - 20190507 - BC642177 - Lufti - temporary restraining order w original RO in exhibits I noticed potentially bad photoshop in Exhibit E. I processed the docs with OCR to make them searchable--but now I'm curious to compared the post OCR'd doc to the original (which i deleted). "Attached hereto as Exhibit E is a true and correct copy of a screenshot from Lynne Spears' phone evidencing the return of Mr. Lutfi's unwanted bribe." Good eye! That looks like a copy and paste along the bottom, eh? And what modern app uses a serif font? Check your inbox. Quote Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 13 hours ago, RebellionSparkles said: I noticed potentially bad photoshop in Exhibit E. I processed the docs with OCR to make them searchable--but now I'm curious to compared the post OCR'd doc to the original (which i deleted). Beyond the use of a serif font in the "message" and the text poking out from underneath the button at the bottom... The period between "Apr" and "29" is also out of alignment. What app would Lynne have been using? Quote Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 Note to self: Add these events to the Timeline. Quote Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 Note to self: Also add this event about the MJ probate doc to the Timeline: Quote Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 Can anyone help out with the best sources for candids? It would be great to build a list of sources of professional photos, pap photos, and fan photos. Sometimes photos help us nail down dates. If anyone can help I will tip my hat to you! 2 Quote Link to comment
RebellionSparkles Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, Steel Magnolia said: Can anyone help out with the best sources for candids? It would be great to build a list of sources of professional photos, pap photos, and fan photos. Sometimes photos help us nail down dates. If anyone can help I will tip my hat to you! Especially deleted IG and tweets. 2 Quote Link to comment
Mx_Defying Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, RebellionSparkles said: Especially deleted IG and tweets. I. These are searchable by date: 17,000 photos: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/britney-spears.html?imgt=0 32,000 photos https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?family=editorial&phrase=britney spears II. Instagram accounts that repost all (most) of Britney's posts: freebritneytm, freebritneynorrway, freebritneyyesterday, There are other ones too. These accounts have occasionally been suspended because of BAnon and others. You can use the wayback machine on twitter and advanced search. III. The wayback machine is great. Here's an example of how I've used it: IV. Advanced search works by searching anything and then in the search results page you just click the dots next to the search box and it will give you the option for advanced search. Advanced search is really great and has a lot of ways to search tweets by date, by account (to and from) etc. 1 Quote Link to comment
RebellionSparkles Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 3 hours ago, Mx_Defying said: I. These are searchable by date: 17,000 photos: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/britney-spears.html?imgt=0 32,000 photos https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?family=editorial&phrase=britney spears II. Instagram accounts that repost all (most) of Britney's posts: freebritneytm, freebritneynorrway, freebritneyyesterday, There are other ones too. These accounts have occasionally been suspended because of BAnon and others. You can use the wayback machine on twitter and advanced search. III. The wayback machine is great. Here's an example of how I've used it: IV. Advanced search works by searching anything and then in the search results page you just click the dots next to the search box and it will give you the option for advanced search. Advanced search is really great and has a lot of ways to search tweets by date, by account (to and from) etc. 🤩🤩🤩 Quote Link to comment
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