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At what point did Larry start dangling this enormous carrot on a stick?

January of 2005?

"Britney Spears' daddy will get more than a million bucks -- possibly a lot more -- for his work as the manager of Britney's Femme Fatale Tour.

TMZ has obtained legal docs in Britney's conservatorship case, which show Britney's overall manager, Larry Rudolph, wants to give up 2% of his cut to Jamie, because daddy Spears has done such a great job -- Larry's cut is 10% of the gross."

https://www.tmz.com/2011/09/27/britney-spears-dad-jamie-spears-larry-rudolph-manager-conservator-tour-manager-seven-figure-deal-femme-fatale-tour/

It wouldn't look very good to the probate court to try to pull this on the Circus tour....They likely had to bide their time.

Daddy Rosengart has already left us a clue:

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27 minutes ago, Steel Magnolia said:

At what point did Larry start dangling this enormous carrot on a stick?

January of 2005?

"Britney Spears' daddy will get more than a million bucks -- possibly a lot more -- for his work as the manager of Britney's Femme Fatale Tour.

TMZ has obtained legal docs in Britney's conservatorship case, which show Britney's overall manager, Larry Rudolph, wants to give up 2% of his cut to Jamie, because daddy Spears has done such a great job -- Larry's cut is 10% of the gross."

https://www.tmz.com/2011/09/27/britney-spears-dad-jamie-spears-larry-rudolph-manager-conservator-tour-manager-seven-figure-deal-femme-fatale-tour/

It wouldn't look very good to the probate court to try to pull this on the Circus tour....They likely had to bide their time.

Daddy Rosengart has already left us a clue:

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Feb 4, 2005 -  BRITNEY TOURING INC VS LIBERTY SYNDICATE MANAGEMENT LIMITED

The lawsuit getting the insurance companies to pay up for the rest of the Onyx Hotel tour

Britney & Kevin get married on October 6th, 2004 and "fires" Larry at the same time. https://www.upi.com/Archives/2004/10/08/Britney-fires-manager-legalizes-marriage/8002001709860/

 

--->what else did Larry have going on, talent-wise at this time?  

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47 minutes ago, Ghoulia said:

Feb 4, 2005 -  BRITNEY TOURING INC VS LIBERTY SYNDICATE MANAGEMENT LIMITED

The lawsuit getting the insurance companies to pay up for the rest of the Onyx Hotel tour

Britney & Kevin get married on October 6th, 2004 and "fires" Larry at the same time. https://www.upi.com/Archives/2004/10/08/Britney-fires-manager-legalizes-marriage/8002001709860/

 

--->what else did Larry have going on, talent-wise at this time?  


Dates I need to add to the Chronological Timeline:

  • Onyx lawsuit
  • WEG lawsuit
  • Divorce documents
  • Entire "Pre-CON" thread contents

I suspect that once these go into the Timeline the clues will start popping out in a mind-bending way!

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On 4/19/2022 at 3:34 PM, Ghoulia said:

And here's one of her little projects after landing the first few accounts:

 

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We're on remote work temporarily this week so I was looking into some of these connections. 

In addition to managing these NHL Florida Panther players, she also managed Jeff Fisher, the coach for the new Tennessee Titans (formally Houston Oilers).

Source - https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--sources--rams--janoris-jenkins-in-contract-dispute-over-the-second-rounder-s-financial-advisory-.html?guccounter=1

After the 1995 season, Oilers team owner announced move to Tennessee, but Nashville stadium wouldn't be ready until 1999.

Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Tennessee_Titans

In March 1998, Lou Taylor incorporates Jeff Fisher Enterprises in Tennessee and the Titans finalize the move to Nashville in 1999 after announcing it in 1996. 

Source - https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_tn/000348433

She's booted out of the original Florida Tri Star by July 2001.

Source - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/19/business/britney-spears-conservatorship-tri-star.html

Not sure if this is why she choose Tennessee as her next destination, but she already has ties there via Jeff Fisher and the Nashville Predators, a new NHL team, were just founded in 1997 so there's potential for more clients given her history of managing NHL players.

Source - https://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/18/sports/nhl-names-4-cities-for-its-new-franchises.html?scp=185&sq=nashville+franchise&st=nyt

Feb 28, 2002, she incorporates Tri Star at 215 Ward Circle.

Source - https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_tn/000422848/events

Michel Kaplan, a tax and estate planning lawyer of Sherrard and Roe Law Firm, based in Nashville, signs the 2002 and 2003 foundation tax returns as the preparer.

Sources - 2002 and 2003 Britney Spears Foundation 990 Forms, https://web.archive.org/web/20160501201127/https://srvhlaw.com/attorneys/mike-kaplan/ (Retrieved May 1st, 2016) 

Michel Kaplan is also a board member and later the secretary of the Nashville Predators Foundation until his death in 2017. In 2006, he becomes the assistant secretary for the Spears Family Hurricane Relief foundation when it was founded until 2008 when Gerber and Co take over.

Sources - 2002, 2004-2017 Nashville Predator Foundation 990 Forms  (https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/621751832), 2006 and 2007 Spears Family Hurricane Relief Foundation 990 Forms

Starting in 2004, Jill Hudson of Lattimore, Black, Morgan, and Cain (now LBMC) start signing the foundation tax returns including conducting an Independent Auditor's Report on July 28, 2004. Jill also signs the tax returns for the Hurricane Relief Foundation until 2008 when Gerber and Co take over. 

Sources - 2004-2008 Britney Spears Foundation 990 Forms, 2006 and 2007 Spears Family Hurricane Relief Foundation 990 Forms

Edit: She also signs the Nashville Predator Foundation tax returns starting in 2002.

Source - 2002-2018 Nashville Predator Foundation 990 Forms 

April 12 1984 - Lattimore, Black, Morgan and Cain P.C. is incorporated. The Brentwood office is located at 5250 Virginia Way, Brentwood, TN. In 2017, LBMC moves their HQ to 201 Franklin Rd. Both locations are within walking distance from 215 Ward Circle.

Sources - https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_tn/000140392

https://www.williamsonhomepage.com/brentwood/news/a-peek-inside-the-new-hill-center-headquarters-of-lbmc/article_bbff648f-9fc7-5343-9575-0866e8d764ea.html

Could all be coincidence but I'm looking for more solid connections between Michel Kaplan, Jill Hudson, Lou and their respective employers.

Edit: Looks like Jill Hudson and Michel Kaplan have a connection through the Nashville Predators Foundation. Was Lou part of any non-profits in Tennessee?

Did Lou manage anyone from the Nashville Predators at this time?

Are there any gaps I'm missing from July 2001 to Feb 2002 for Ms Lou?

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2 hours ago, TimeLoveJoySpaceKnee said:

I'll work on adding sources as I go since it's all just PDFs in my folder right now.

Yes! I try not to to add anything to the Chronological Timeline unless I can source it.

Sometimes I'll write, "gossip blogs report" to indicate it's just gossip...But I love being able to source documents so we can leave a trail for any investigative journalists who might be following these threads. :hiii_britney_wave_glaad_2018_waving_hello:

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Two new entries for the Chronological Timeline:

Key Dates:

Apr. 22, 2002 - Sweet Jamie Music, Inc. is registered in the state of Louisiana.

Dec. 19, 2003 - A branch of Sweet Jamie Music, Inc., is registered as "foreign stock" in the state of California. 

So...

We should be able to find out who registered these two corporations, along with who the "Change of Officer" was in 2006, by searching "Sweet Jamie Music" through here:

https://coraweb.sos.la.gov/commercialsearch/commercialsearch.aspx

It's going to cost $30...Worth it?

 

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On 4/20/2022 at 12:35 PM, TimeLoveJoySpaceKnee said:

Could all be coincidence but I'm looking for more solid connections between Michel Kaplan, Jill Hudson, Lou and their respective employers.

Edit: Looks like Jill Hudson and Michel Kaplan have a connection through the Nashville Predators Foundation. Was Lou part of any non-profits in Tennessee?

Did Lou manage anyone from the Nashville Predators at this time?

Are there any gaps I'm missing from July 2001 to Feb 2002 for Ms Lou?

Any new updates?

I need to add all of this to the Chronological Timeline...Remind me if you don't notice that I've done it!

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On 4/20/2022 at 12:35 PM, TimeLoveJoySpaceKnee said:

We're on remote work temporarily this week so I was looking into some of these connections. 

In addition to managing these NHL Florida Panther players, she also managed Jeff Fisher, the coach for the new Tennessee Titans (formally Houston Oilers).

Source - https://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--sources--rams--janoris-jenkins-in-contract-dispute-over-the-second-rounder-s-financial-advisory-.html?guccounter=1

This story is wild.

Lou literally has a pattern of preying on vulnerable people to make money.

But uses religion as a means of access.

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On 2/27/2022 at 7:06 PM, Steel Magnolia said:

Is it time we make a list of all of the lawyers around this who should be disbarred? :umsaywhat_adele_hmm_umm_thinking_confused_unsure:

so much conflict of interest, an attorney could say "I can't help you unless you go to rehab" and then, know, stop billing but Laura washer will sty in families for years and years, she's like having another child but a mean one in high heels

 

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1 hour ago, Steel Magnolia said:

@Ghoulia Your post in the other thread made me realize that MVK and Laura Wasser worked together on the pre-nup back in 2004!

Do we have a copy of the full document?

I wonder if Wasser botched the pre-nup? It would explain why she lost control of custody case that should have been a slam dunk for her.

I've scoured the internet for the prenup a few times.  The closest I've gotten is Wasser's writeup of the faux September 2004 wedding (doc linked in other comment).  

https://www.tmz.com/2006/11/08/britney-kfed-divorce-nasty-turn/

Federline almost certainly cannot challenge the prenup. Sources say hotshot divorce lawyer Laura Wasser drafted an air-tight prenuptial agreement before the couple married. So Federline's only chance of cashing in is by mounting an ugly custody fight, trying to force a more lucrative settlement. But friends of Spears say Britney will fight a holy war to prevent Federline from getting custody and, given his track record -- or lack of it -- with the kids, it would appear Spears has the clear advantage.

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On 2/27/2022 at 6:54 PM, RebellionSparkles said:

Also…was this Laura Wasser’s (Britney’s divorce attorney) biggest eff up in her career? She had a client who was providing the only income and childcare in addition to a iron clad pre-nup. It seems like an open and shut case. How did Wasser eff up this case so badly? 

I mean, if she was working with the entire Spears family and Kevin, seems like it was intentional to get a bigger payday from them than from Britney. :yaknow_britney_xfactor_X_factor_talk_tell_chat_you_know:

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1 hour ago, Ghoulia said:

I've scoured the internet for the prenup a few times.  The closest I've gotten is Wasser's writeup of the faux September 2004 wedding (doc linked in other comment).  

https://www.tmz.com/2006/11/08/britney-kfed-divorce-nasty-turn/

Federline almost certainly cannot challenge the prenup. Sources say hotshot divorce lawyer Laura Wasser drafted an air-tight prenuptial agreement before the couple married. So Federline's only chance of cashing in is by mounting an ugly custody fight, trying to force a more lucrative settlement. But friends of Spears say Britney will fight a holy war to prevent Federline from getting custody and, given his track record -- or lack of it -- with the kids, it would appear Spears has the clear advantage.

 

43 minutes ago, BrittonJeanSpears said:

I mean, if she was working with the entire Spears family and Kevin, seems like it was intentional to get a bigger payday from them than from Britney. :yaknow_britney_xfactor_X_factor_talk_tell_chat_you_know:

 

Ugly custody fight = Billable hours

Wasser and MVK likely knew the ugly custody fight was coming as early as September of 2004.

They had lots of time to plan.

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10 minutes ago, Steel Magnolia said:

 

 

Ugly custody fight = Billable hours

Wasser and MVK likely knew the ugly custody fight was coming as early as September of 2004.

They had lots of time to plan.

Right. Which makes it even more suspicious how she totally fails to help her client retain any autonomy or voice in raising her children.

I’m still trying to wrap my mind around Wasser’s extended vacation in August/September of 07.

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