Demi Lovato debuts a massive spider tattoo on their head

[Slayer]

 

[Lou]

this beach is crazy as fock

i'mma put her in a conservatorship

[Urbanney]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

this beach is crazy as fock

i'mma put her it a consercatorsheep

Please be respectful of their pronouns. 

[LeavinExhaleByYearEnd]

[SexyLove]

12 minutes ago, Urbanney said:

Please be respectful of their pronouns. 

I'm as gay and liberal as they come, but even I think the whole change of pronouns is silly. Unless I was addressing Demi to her face, or was in her close personal circle, I'd perfectly be fine using "they/them" to be respectful of her wishes. However, while on the internet, and a complete stranger to her, I'll continue to refer to her as she/her.

With that said, I've always appreciated her music, and do feel that this is just another sign that she needs severe mental help. It's sad. She could be a major pop star but she's reduced her legacy to silly woke tropes, and news stories about how offensive certain food labels can be.

[kfitz421]

2 minutes ago, ***yLove said:

I'm as gay and liberal as they come, but even I think the whole change of pronouns is silly. Unless I was addressing Demi to her face, or was in her close personal circle, I'd perfectly be fine using "they/them" to be respectful of her wishes. However, while on the internet, and a complete stranger to her, I'll continue to refer to her as she/her.

With that said, I've always appreciated her music, and do feel that this is just another sign that she needs severe mental help. It's sad. She could be a major pop star but she's reduced her legacy to silly woke tropes, and news stories about how offensive certain food labels can be.

Wow you’re a not so good person. 

[SexyLove]

3 minutes ago, kfitz421 said:

Wow you’re a not so good person. 

Tough?

So be it.

Says you.

Cool.

 

Choose your response.

[ByDemand]

7 minutes ago, ***yLove said:

I'm as gay and liberal as they come, but even I think the whole change of pronouns is silly. Unless I was addressing Demi to her face, or was in her close personal circle, I'd perfectly be fine using "they/them" to be respectful of her wishes. However, while on the internet, and a complete stranger to her, I'll continue to refer to her as she/her.

With that said, I've always appreciated her music, and do feel that this is just another sign that she needs severe mental help. It's sad. She could be a major pop star but she's reduced her legacy to silly woke tropes, and news stories about how offensive certain food labels can be.

So what I’m hearing is, you’re two faced to your personal circle. Cool!

[ByDemand]

Well uhhhh, at least it’s in a spot that will be covered up when their hair grows back? 
 

I’m not really a fan of spiders so lol

[Urbanney]

14 minutes ago, ***yLove said:

I'm as gay and liberal as they come, but even I think the whole change of pronouns is silly. Unless I was addressing Demi to her face, or was in her close personal circle, I'd perfectly be fine using "they/them" to be respectful of her wishes. However, while on the internet, and a complete stranger to her, I'll continue to refer to her as she/her.

With that said, I've always appreciated her music, and do feel that this is just another sign that she needs severe mental help. It's sad. She could be a major pop star but she's reduced her legacy to silly woke tropes, and news stories about how offensive certain food labels can be.

If you would use their preferred pronouns to their face, why not do it online?

I would think that being a part of the LGBTQ community would give you the ability to empathize with someone being different from you. You may not understand where they are coming from, but it should be basic human decency to respect another person’s wishes about how they want to be identified. It’s no different than using a nickname over a full name. I would also think you would be able to relate to how difficult it can feel to have to identify/have others identify you as something other than how you really feel you are (i.e. identifying as straight publicly, when you’re gay and in the closet).

I’m not going to ask you to change your views, but if someone is going to willingly not use Demi’s correct pronouns, they will receive warning points here. If someone makes a mistake, fine, but after that, warning points. It’s disrespectful, and it makes Exhale unwelcoming and hostile to those who are non-binary/transgender/queer.

Anyways, I don’t want to detail this thread, so this is all I will say.

[SexyLove]

2 minutes ago, ByDemand said:

So what I’m hearing is, you’re two faced to your personal circle. Cool!

Your hearing is wrong, as I'm not part of Demi's personal circle.

[bh9789]

[ByDemand]

19 minutes ago, ***yLove said:

Your hearing is wrong, as I'm not part of Demi's personal circle.

Apologies, didn’t realize you were so easily confused!

[SexyLove]

21 minutes ago, Urbanney said:

If you would use their preferred pronouns to their face, why not do it online?

I would think that being a part of the LGBTQ community would give you the ability to empathize with someone being different from you. You may not understand where they are coming from, but it should be basic human decency to respect another person’s wishes about how they want to be identified. It’s no different than using a nickname over a full name. I would also think you would be able to relate to how difficult it can feel to have to identify/have others identify you as something other than how you really feel you are (i.e. identifying as straight publicly, when you’re gay and in the closet).

I’m not going to ask you to change your views, but if someone is going to willingly not use Demi’s correct pronouns, they will receive warning points here. If someone makes a mistake, fine, but after that, warning points. It’s disrespectful, and it makes Exhale unwelcoming and hostile to those who are non-binary/transgender/queer.

Anyways, I don’t want to detail this thread, so this is all I will say.

Because like I said, we're on the internet and strangers. Also, people make negative/disrespectful comments on the internet about artists on these forums and like it all the time. Do we not have the right to express our negative/disrespectful opinions about artists here? Don't get me started on an artist I actually dislike. I like Demi.

As I pointed out, if I was talking to Demi face to face or talking with a forum poster on here who identified with "they/them" pronouns, I'm happy to respect their wishes. But if it's an article about Demi on the internet, I don't have to be respectful of her wishes. Just like I'm not going to call Kanye West (one of those artists who I severely dislike), Yeezy/Ye or whatever ridiculous name they have this week. Is it disrespectful if I still call him Kanye West? I'll let you decide, lol.

[SexyLove]

2 minutes ago, ByDemand said:

Apologies, didn’t realize you were so easily confused!

No dear, your reading comprehension is lacking.

[ByDemand]

1 minute ago, ***yLove said:

No dear, your reading comprehension is lacking.

Analogies can be tough when you’re first learning, keep at it love! 

[SexyLove]

12 minutes ago, ByDemand said:

Analogies can be tough when you’re first learning, keep at it love! 

Please enlighten me to the analogy you're referring to.

[Stefani]

Surprised it's not an alien. Oops, I mean "E.T."

[Britneyarmy8]

55 minutes ago, ***yLove said:

I'm as gay and liberal as they come, but even I think the whole change of pronouns is silly. Unless I was addressing Demi to her face, or was in her close personal circle, I'd perfectly be fine using "they/them" to be respectful of her wishes. However, while on the internet, and a complete stranger to her, I'll continue to refer to her as she/her.

With that said, I've always appreciated her music, and do feel that this is just another sign that she needs severe mental help. It's sad. She could be a major pop star but she's reduced her legacy to silly woke tropes, and news stories about how offensive certain food labels can be.

Ok then I’m referring to u as straight and conservative 

that’s just my belief

but in person I’ll call u what u actually are 

[Britneyarmy8]

Not the spider