"Sour" Exceeds Expectations Debuting At #1 With Nearly 300k SPS Sales & Becomes 2021's Biggest Debut Week Sales Surpassing Taylor Swift!

[Blackout2006]

11 minutes ago, Midnight said:

"Jealousy, Jealousy"  and they can go seethe now, that's right seethe!!!

Thank you.

I'm afraid Olivia's success is going "brutal" on them 

[Midnight]

25 minutes ago, Blackout2006 said:

I'm afraid Olivia's success is going "brutal" on them 

and it made them "SOUR" poor things

Just imagine when she goes on tour and shatters even more records

This place 

I-

[Blackout2006]

9 hours ago, Midnight said:

and it made them "SOUR" poor things

Just imagine when she goes on tour and shatters even more records

This place 

I-

They are gonna implode if that ever happens 

[Bigno]

I am going to be the annoying Debbie Downer here. Also, a very stupid question cause at the end of the day, this whole "let's discuss celebs" is totally useless and it's nothing more than distraction, but... Why do some people get so incredibly hooked on someone else's success? For better and worse. Those who are going super crazy happy about her success (I mean cool, it's nice that you have no problems with ppl winning, but that is it) as well as those who are hating on her (I mean cool, you dislike the chick and it's perfectly fine, but that is it) I understand that sometimes, when somebody feels pushed and "planted", it can be bothersome cause it kind of speaks of a hidden privilege, something that some perceive as unearned, but do you really really care so much? I honestly have never understood fanss' extreme excitement or anger towards their favs and non-favs. I think an awful lot of energy is consumed in those discussions.

When you wake up tomorrow, whether she sells 100k or 10, your life will be as fabulous or horrible as it was before. I don't know, I just think sometimes people pay too much attention to... Useless things? I am not trying to come off as "superior" cause it's actually the opposite. It is just genuine curiosity. 

[Spicechinodiva]

@Blackout2006 update boo, Billboard announced it as 295,000 meaning it's the biggest sales frame for 2021 and a female debut album since Cardi B.

 

Putting Fearless (Taylor's version) as the second top debut. .

 

 

[Blackout2006]

26 minutes ago, Spicechinodiva said:

@Blackout2006 update boo, Billboard announced it as 295,000 meaning it's the biggest sales frame for 2021 and a female debut album since Cardi B.

 

Putting Fearless (Taylor's version) as the second top debut. .

 

 

Final numbers? I thought official numbers were already released?

[Korb]

Olivia really is a pop prophecy Yall shoulda listened 
 

[Blackout2006]

4 hours ago, Bigno said:

I am going to be the annoying Debbie Downer here. Also, a very stupid question cause at the end of the day, this whole "let's discuss celebs" is totally useless and it's nothing more than distraction, but... Why do some people get so incredibly hooked on someone else's success? For better and worse. Those who are going super crazy happy about her success (I mean cool, it's nice that you have no problems with ppl winning, but that is it) as well as those who are hating on her (I mean cool, you dislike the chick and it's perfectly fine, but that is it) I understand that sometimes, when somebody feels pushed and "planted", it can be bothersome cause it kind of speaks of a hidden privilege, something that some perceive as unearned, but do you really really care so much? I honestly have never understood fanss' extreme excitement or anger towards their favs and non-favs. I think an awful lot of energy is consumed in those discussions.

When you wake up tomorrow, whether she sells 100k or 10, your life will be as fabulous or horrible as it was before. I don't know, I just think sometimes people pay too much attention to... Useless things? I am not trying to come off as "superior" cause it's actually the opposite. It is just genuine curiosity. 

It's just for fun

[mythology]

4 hours ago, Bigno said:

I am going to be the annoying Debbie Downer here. Also, a very stupid question cause at the end of the day, this whole "let's discuss celebs" is totally useless and it's nothing more than distraction, but... Why do some people get so incredibly hooked on someone else's success? For better and worse. Those who are going super crazy happy about her success (I mean cool, it's nice that you have no problems with ppl winning, but that is it) as well as those who are hating on her (I mean cool, you dislike the chick and it's perfectly fine, but that is it) I understand that sometimes, when somebody feels pushed and "planted", it can be bothersome cause it kind of speaks of a hidden privilege, something that some perceive as unearned, but do you really really care so much? I honestly have never understood fanss' extreme excitement or anger towards their favs and non-favs. I think an awful lot of energy is consumed in those discussions.

When you wake up tomorrow, whether she sells 100k or 10, your life will be as fabulous or horrible as it was before. I don't know, I just think sometimes people pay too much attention to... Useless things? I am not trying to come off as "superior" cause it's actually the opposite. It is just genuine curiosity. 

Several reasons.  Most people don't have any success of their own, so they cling on to celebrities success to fill them of that void.

Others are just as bad, envious and jealous of others that are doing well, and spit out hate to make them feel better.

This describes most users on exhale, sadly

[Spicechinodiva]

2 hours ago, Blackout2006 said:

Final numbers? I thought official numbers were already released?

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9580294/olivia-rodrigo-sour-billboard-200-debut-2021-biggest-week/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

 

Billboard posted the actual numbers. Debunking the 286 K. 

[Blackout2006]

1 hour ago, Spicechinodiva said:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9580294/olivia-rodrigo-sour-billboard-200-debut-2021-biggest-week/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

 

Billboard posted the actual numbers. Debunking the 286 K. 

This is such good numbers! Thx for the new info 

[Bigno]

12 hours ago, mythology said:

Several reasons.  Most people don't have any success of their own, so they cling on to celebrities success to fill them of that void.

Others are just as bad, envious and jealous of others that are doing well, and spit out hate to make them feel better.

This describes most users on exhale, sadly

Yeah, I think for those who fight with one another and get so heated, it is about those two reasons you mentioned. I hate generalizations, but in my life, some of the people I know who are more than fans, those who are consumed by an artist's whereabouts and accomplishments are some of the people with the most difficult or challenging lives or who feel they have achieved absolutely nothing themselves. They live vicariously through people that don't even know they exist. 

The only part where I disagree with you is that I don't think everyone in Exhale is like that. First, there are too many members to know what each is about and second, I have personally encountered very objective, smart, open and fun members with whom a debate is totally possible and full of respect. I love that.  But definitely, a good number of members fall into certain traps, like this thread shows somewhat clearly, I guess. 

12 hours ago, Blackout2006 said:

It's just for fun

In principle, but some people get extremely railed up and they don't seem fun at all. They act as if they were the ones being affected by this directly. 

[SlayOut]

Glad I was a Drivers License Stan since Day 1, unlike some of these geriatric millennials!

Miss Rodrigo deserves all her flowers and praise!

[Stefani]

Imagine beating Taylor's recent debut sales with your first album. The apprentice has surpassed the master. 

[Blackout2006]

1 hour ago, Stefani said:

Imagine beating Taylor's recent debut sales with your first album. The apprentice has surpassed the master. 

I too was genuinely shocked. Never heard of an artist who surpassed Taylor Swift's sales in the year they both release an album

[mythology]

20 hours ago, Bigno said:

Yeah, I think for those who fight with one another and get so heated, it is about those two reasons you mentioned. I hate generalizations, but in my life, some of the people I know who are more than fans, those who are consumed by an artist's whereabouts and accomplishments are some of the people with the most difficult or challenging lives or who feel they have achieved absolutely nothing themselves. They live vicariously through people that don't even know they exist. 

The only part where I disagree with you is that I don't think everyone in Exhale is like that. First, there are too many members to know what each is about and second, I have personally encountered very objective, smart, open and fun members with whom a debate is totally possible and full of respect. I love that.  But definitely, a good number of members fall into certain traps, like this thread shows somewhat clearly, I guess. 

In principle, but some people get extremely railed up and they don't seem fun at all. They act as if they were the ones being affected by this directly. 

I agree with you completely, very well said

[3isacharm]

14 hours ago, Blackout2006 said:

I too was genuinely shocked. Never heard of an artist who surpassed Taylor Swift's sales in the year they both release an album

well in Taylor's defense, Fearless TV is not really a brand new album but still Olivia's power

[Fabricio Alex]

Congratulations to her marketing team... cos really... the album is FAR from great... very faaaaaaaar...

1 (ONE!) great song = drivers license
3 ok songs = deja vu, good 4 u, 1 step foward

[Korb]

21 hours ago, Bigno said:

Yeah, I think for those who fight with one another and get so heated, it is about those two reasons you mentioned. I hate generalizations, but in my life, some of the people I know who are more than fans, those who are consumed by an artist's whereabouts and accomplishments are some of the people with the most difficult or challenging lives or who feel they have achieved absolutely nothing themselves. They live vicariously through people that don't even know they exist. 

The only part where I disagree with you is that I don't think everyone in Exhale is like that. First, there are too many members to know what each is about and second, I have personally encountered very objective, smart, open and fun members with whom a debate is totally possible and full of respect. I love that.  But definitely, a good number of members fall into certain traps, like this thread shows somewhat clearly, I guess. 

In principle, but some people get extremely railed up and they don't seem fun at all. They act as if they were the ones being affected by this directly. 

Well said. I don't live vicariously through artists myself but I do like to troll sometimes with my overwhelming and over the top support for Olivia because it's funny seeing how her sudden success gets a rise out of people on this board. It really is just for the f*ckery of it all for me lol. The irony is that people said similar things about Brit during her debut. It's a cyclical thing being hostile towards new artists from a younger generation. It's always the same ole' ****.

Though I secretly do root for her because...why not? She's young and seems really kind and I can see her appeal even though her music is not exactly my gig. 

[waynebradybyday]

Just my opinion, but I think this will probably put her star power somewhere around Camila Cabello, but perhaps a bit higher, but not on a Billie Eilish level? Cabello debuted lower overall with CAMILA earning 119K equivalent album units however pure sales were roughly the same as Olivia at 65K.

I'm comparing them because Camila is still kind of a new, budding pop-girl (even though she's had big hits, she's still not a MAIN pop girl) and they both have been groomed and co-signed by Taylor (perhaps Camila moreso).

It will be interesting to see what lane Olivia takes, because I think there's only so much of this emo vibe that people can take, but who knows with teenagers these days.