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If Jamie was Jemima, a mother, and Britney was Brad, her 39-year old son, and Jemima had her middle aged, successful son in conservatorship to milk his fortune since 13 years, all media outlets would

They're coming hard with this s*** lmao we're not buying it. Show all the videos of Britney doing yoga with her family and riding a bike and Jamie with that hobo beard you want, Vivian. We know what's

Do they not realize how freaking creepy that headline is

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im losing it...yeah right you love your adult daughter and thats why you steal money from her through money laundring and opening up failed businesses, you put her in mental facilities against her will and micromanage every aspect of her private life. yeah right thats love and act out of pure protection. it makes me sick!

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There’s many pros and cons to this segment. Pros being the reporter asking why Britney is scared of her father, the overall tone feeling dark, and Vivian not answering the questions and contradicting her point. 
The cons were definitely the IG snippets, the lack of detail (for the audience who viewed and doesn’t know the full story, and the fans looking like a bunch of naive kids who are grouping together for a fun experience. I know how passionate the fans are but the GP doesn’t and they looked immature in this segment. That’s an editing thing but again for the average viewer who doesn’t know, I don’t think that clip did the movement justice. 
It could have been way worse. I don’t see team con doing much press. They can’t say much of anything legally. We still have multiple documentaries to look forward to and especially the Netflix special that will focus more on Jamie/Lou. 
This is a pebble in the Grand Canyon. No worries. 

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1 hour ago, kleinbritney said:

Lol everyone who loves their children should just put them under guardianship .This attorney should have her sanity checked. She only lives from pushing rich people into guardianship. What a disgusting job. I wish the lawyer the same fate

You know, in Sweden, we recently had a case of a mother going to jail for having let her middle aged son with severe mental illness staying at her apartment, having dropped out of school and never worked, never moved away from home. Despite that he was over 40 years old AND mentally ill, SHE, his mom got slandered to pieces for having let him live with her the whole time, instead of being homeless and starving I guess. He said himself that she had not kept him a prisoner, and that he had wanted to stay there because he felt safe and good with her. But the media was still like “this monster of a mother destroyed her son’s life by not letting him be an adult, she is horrible, she is disgusting, you don’t prevent your children from not growing up to adults, that is a deadly sin”. And I mean, he is mentally ill, lacks an education and job experience and that was all her fault, even though he had been severely bullied in school and that they both were abused by his father all his childhood. 
So that is the media narrative when a MOTHER allows her SON stay in her apartment at 40 years of age, someone with an actual diagnosed mental illness and obvious mental disability (he has not been providing for himself ever).

But SAME journalists, when reporting about a father and an almost 40 year old daughter, where he actually has FORCED her to be under his thumb for 13 years, when she IS capable of working and has supported like 50 people fulltime at least, for 13 years, SAME journalists are framing that completely different. “We should not judge a parent and private family matter, she might need this”. 

See the insane difference based on *** of the parent and middle aged “child”?!Inside Out Reaction GIF by Disney Pixar

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1 hour ago, Newrie said:

You know, in Sweden, we recently had a case of a mother going to jail for having let her middle aged son with severe mental illness staying at her apartment, having dropped out of school and never worked, never moved away from home. Despite that he was over 40 years old AND mentally ill, SHE, his mom got slandered to pieces for having let him live with her the whole time, instead of being homeless and starving I guess. He said himself that she had not kept him a prisoner, and that he had wanted to stay there because he felt safe and good with her. But the media was still like “this monster of a mother destroyed her son’s life by not letting him be an adult, she is horrible, she is disgusting, you don’t prevent your children from not growing up to adults, that is a deadly sin”. And I mean, he is mentally ill, lacks an education and job experience and that was all her fault, even though he had been severely bullied in school and that they both were abused by his father all his childhood. 
So that is the media narrative when a MOTHER allows her SON stay in her apartment at 40 years of age, someone with an actual diagnosed mental illness and obvious mental disability (he has not been providing for himself ever).

But SAME journalists, when reporting about a father and an almost 40 year old daughter, where he actually has FORCED her to be under his thumb for 13 years, when she IS capable of working and has supported like 50 people fulltime at least, for 13 years, SAME journalists are framing that completely different. “We should not judge a parent and private family matter, she might need this”. 

See the insane difference based on *** of the parent and middle aged “child”?!Inside Out Reaction GIF by Disney Pixar

I'm German. In Germany there is a guardianship only for minors. The legislature has recognized that a guardianship / incapacitation in its structures and essential content dates back to the past century. This is no longer compatible with our constitution, which provides for the right to human dignity. For this reason, guardianship was abolished 30 years ago. So the US is with its jurisprudence in the century before last. In addition, you can see that the guardianship is being abused. In addition, lawyers / judges should not decide that at all, but doctors. And not one but many independent doctors should come to the same result

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31 minutes ago, kleinbritney said:

I'm German. In Germany there is a guardianship only for minors. The legislature has recognized that a guardianship / incapacitation in its structures and essential content dates back to the past century. This is no longer compatible with our constitution, which provides for the right to human dignity. For this reason, guardianship was abolished 30 years ago. So the US is with its jurisprudence in the century before last. In addition, you can see that the guardianship is being abused. In addition, lawyers / judges should not decide that at all, but doctors. And not one but many independent doctors should come to the same result

Though we do have what's called "Gesetzliche Betreuung". I guess one could see it as a revamped version of outdated guardianships.

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38 minutes ago, kleinbritney said:

I'm German. In Germany there is a guardianship only for minors. The legislature has recognized that a guardianship / incapacitation in its structures and essential content dates back to the past century. This is no longer compatible with our constitution, which provides for the right to human dignity. For this reason, guardianship was abolished 30 years ago. So the US is with its jurisprudence in the century before last. In addition, you can see that the guardianship is being abused. In addition, lawyers / judges should not decide that at all, but doctors. And not one but many independent doctors should come to the same result

We also abolished conservatorships/guardianships some time in the 60s. I am so surprised with how Americans reason. “But there are people that are disabled/in psychoses”, “some people can’t handle money”.

Like yeah, we have the OPTION to receive support, the person with disabilities can consent to receive support with daily chores and their finances, but nobody owns them, nobody is their “guardian”. And that can be abused enough as it is! It actually gets abused enough as it is but the person’s affected still have ALL civil rights and the right to remove the support from their life. Obviously, if the disability is severe, this is easy to dismiss for the staff and again, abuse their position, but at least according to the law the clients are equal citizens. 

So the mother I mentioned had not put her grown son in guardianship, she had just allowed him to live with her and live off of her. And the media called it kidnapping and Münchhaussen syndrome by Proxy. He was disabled mentally, but they wrote that she should not had let him stay with her, because that was what was crippling him intellectually so to speak. And I just thought, it hasn’t crossed these journalists minds, how different they report about Britney. Apparently, because she is a woman was a “**** starlet” (???) then suddenly it is NOT crippling to have actually been prevented to make decisions all her adult life until middle age. She has been SO much more functioning than that Swedish, middle aged man, who had not worked a day in his life, but the same media said that HE was capable of an independent life anyway, while “we don’t know whether Britney is capable or not” despite having worked like 170% for 13 years. 

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