The legendary Lisa MacCarley speaks out again and states the conservatorship is unlawful and unconstitutional

[rennen]

This is such a great interview and well worth the (long) read. 

 

Some key quotes from her regarding Britney's conservatorship are below, and the full interview can be found HERE

Can you stress why the discovery of Adam Streisand’s role was so important for your legal understanding of what happened to her?

In our legal system, there’s the basic premise of all of our laws regarding the loss or deprivation of liberty or property. This is called due process. Our California constitution and the United States Constitution provide very clearly that everyone is entitled to a fair process, an unbiased judge, and most importantly, your own attorney. I was shocked because I had never seen before that when James Spears’ attorneys filed the packet of paperwork to commence the conservatorship on February 1, 2008, they literally prepared an order for the judge to sign nominating Sam Ingham as Britney Spears’ attorney. I’ve never seen that before. It still shocks me that I’m even saying it. But what was worse was when I found out that Britney had picked for herself a very good attorney, Adam Streisand, and Adam Streisand shows up and says, “I’m representing Britney.” And Judge Reva Goetz, says, “No, we’ve decided that Britney Spears doesn’t have capacity to retain her counsel.”

There is no such thing. That’s absolutely false, absolutely wrong, absolutely a violation. Unethical. But it even gets worse than that. Apparently, Sam Ingham had written some kind of report, or he was one of the two who had written a report, basically saying that Britney Spears didn’t have the capacity to retain counsel. Which is, again, another ethical violation as well. But the problem is that the judges are untouchable. There’s nothing that you can do when a judge goes off the charts, and does what Reva Goetz did. What these attorneys all know is that in probate court, the judges control your fees, so they control your income, and they will retaliate. This court of appeals doesn’t help. There’s no place to go for recourse when a judge does things that Reva Goetz did.

You called the conservatorship abusive. Would you also call it illegal?

Yes, unlawful. It’s unconstitutional. They violated the very basic notion of her constitutional rights. They did everything wrong. It was almost like they looked for ways to do it wrong. She couldn’t have her own attorney. They appointed the judge’s favorite crony, Sam Ingham. This was all a setup. It was well known in the Los Angeles probate court at the time that Sam Ingham and his office cohort, Jackson Chen, were the judge’s favorite attorneys, and especially Judge Reva Goetz’s favorites. Judge Reva Goetz had a great fondness and bias towards Sam Ingham and Jackson Chen. Sam Ingham actually had the audacity at some point to say “I specialize in celebrity conservatorship.” It’s just cronyism.

[Slayer]

SPILL THE TEA LISA 

[car]

Which is why I’m afraid of ingham’s change of heart. Why all of a sudden? Scares me & am not sure he truly does have her best interests at heart. 

[Mr. Cavill]

1 minute ago, car said:

Which is why I’m afraid of ingham’s change of heart. Why all of a sudden? Scares me & am not sure he truly does have her best interests at heart. 

Reva Goetz isn't the judge for her case anymore, so that's probably why? I don't really know, just assuming. 

 Tell them LISA

[dfffff]

6 minutes ago, car said:

Which is why I’m afraid of ingham’s change of heart. Why all of a sudden? Scares me & am not sure he truly does have her best interests at heart. 

He just started to fear that #freebritney would get on his ***. I don’t believe in any good intentions from his side.

[britneyluv]

I'm so glad people are finally paying attention to the real legal issues surrounding Britney's situation. I think people just assume that because she has to be evaluated by a court or a judge that it must be "just". It's not. I don't practice probate work, but I've been a practicing attorney for almost 7 years and even though I'm not deluded enough to believe that every argument I present to a judge is a winning one, there are plenty of instances where judges are wrong, or have personal biases that result in an ethical obligation for them to recuse themselves.

You can present a well-researched position to a judge, supported by rules, statutes, and case law, and a judge can rule another way simply because they feel like it. I'll admit most of the judges I have cases in front of do care about the facts of the case, and make well-reasoned decisions, but it's the ones that don't who result in mistrust of the process and what basically seems like a human rights violation in Britney's case.

I worked for a firm in law school (similar to Bessemer) where I did trusts and estates so had a brief experience with probate law, but it primarily dealt with older individuals who were prone to being taken advantage of or wealthy individuals with numerous assets from various sources who needed help ensuring that their finances were kept in order and/or passed on to who they wanted without complications like unnecessary tax implications or other issues.

As a personal injury attorney, I've represented, and obtained, results for people who took whatever settlement they got and blew it on a trip to Vegas or something similar. Does that mean these people should be under a lifetime conservatorship because of unwise financial decisions? Probably not. 

I can see a conservator of the estate being beneficial for Britney because it's likely that she has so much income rolling in from so many avenues that she doesn't know what do with it or how to manage it. In this regard, she can earn as much money as she wants and can rest easy knowing that it's not being mishandled and is available for her to use in the way she wants. On the other hand, does Britney have the competency to find a reputable probate lawyer who can explain to her how to plan her estate? It seems like it, especially since she somehow found about Bessemer, but in this scenario, the money only goes to the people she wants and in a way that makes sense for her own financial situation - meaning vultures like Team Jamie are s*it out of luck.

The fact that it's harder to get out of a conservatorship than be placed in one goes against every legal principle on which this country is based. Presumption of innocence, the right to confront your accuser in court, right to due process and equal protection under the laws, basically ensure that an individual has an opportunity to be fully heard before their rights are taken away. A judge is meant to be a respected member of the bar who can hear arguments and make well-informed, unbiased decisions to protect these rights. This clearly has not happened in Britney's case, and the fact that probate is such a specialized area of law means that there are judges making what amount to life-and-death decisions without fully understanding the issues.

I could go on and on but don't want to write even more of an essay. Lisa MacCarley is absolutely correct, and the simpler these legal issues are made to the public, the better. I created a legal questions thread a little while back, but in light of the documentary, I just wanted to put it out there that I'm willing to answer any questions (obviously from an outsider perspective) that people have, since I genuinely enjoy being a lawyer and discussing these things, especially when it comes to Britney.

[MonaLisa613]

That was a great interview, this woman truly is incredible and to think just last month, some fans in this movement, were trying to turn people against her.

[DuranDuran]

15 minutes ago, britneyluv said:

I can see a conservator of the estate being beneficial for Britney because it's likely that she has so much income rolling in from so many avenues that she doesn't know what do with it or how to manage it. In this regard, she can earn as much money as she wants and can rest easy knowing that it's not being mishandled and is available for her to use in the way she wants

No, it is a misconception. Actually, it is a very dangerous misconception, I really hope that Brit's lawyers do not influence her in this regard. Cuz there are many alternatives to this that are less restrictive.

[Slayer]

Remove Ingham and hire Lisa and/or Adam

[Urbanney]

She is truly an angel! So thankful to have her advocating for Britney and sharing her expertise. T4p the interview.

[Urbanney]

I think it's worth posting her advice here too:

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Lots of public figures are beginning to speak out after watching the documentary. How can people with large platforms best help Britney?

Put pressure on the politicians, the attorney general in the state of California. Xavier Becerra is on his way out, and I believe I heard Adam Schiff might be coming in as the AG. Put pressure on the politicians. Let them know that this is a hyper-exaggerated situation of injustice, but all they have to do is open up their eyeballs, and they’ll see that it’s an emerging crisis in our probate court. So they need to fix this, and fix it now.

 

[toysoldier88]

Flawless woman flawless interview, the tea Is spilled

 

[1inamillion]

  

[PokemonSpears]

this is what needs to be highlighted everywhere

[Britneylandia]

FREE BRITNEY!!!

[nthenwkiss]

my god, how is this possible? wtf law system is this?

[car]

2 hours ago, dfffff said:

He just started to fear that #freebritney would get on his ***. I don’t believe in any good intentions from his side.

I just hope he doesn’t have some even sketchier plans to push the family away and then swoop in. 

[Onyxgirl17]

I wish this would make more noise. This is the real tragedy that Britney has had to suffer because of this. 

[SUPERJACK]

I’ve been reaching out to political figures for weeks. My greatest effort so far is a lengthy letter I wrote to The Hill show Rising, pleading the hosts to look into Britney’s case. I am a “Riser” and I contribute to their show as often as I can. But so far no luck. If there are people in politics that you admire, please reach out. Let them know this is a Human Rights case. For Britney and all who suffer from conservatorship abuse. 

[CharmingMadness]

Im questioning myself lately, why this case aint blowing up everywhere?

It started to get the attention it deserves, but I dont think its enough

for example, Manson case immediately had reaction from authorities

and Brit being abused for 13 years having her alcoholic father and a stalker as conservators plus the judge decision is so much in question and nothing? the system def failed Brit