"I met Britney at the playboy mansion. She seemed drugged." - says Tokio Hotel's Bill Kaulitz

[OopsOverprotected]

1 hour ago, kleinbritney said:

He only makes himself important because nobody is interested in the Kaulitz brothers anymore. Nobody in Germany wants to see or hear "Tokio Hotel" anymore. He paid normally for his M&G. I bet Britney doesn't even know who he is.

hahhahah oh gosh why are you so bitter about them?

[Sea flower]

Well, i am not surprised he was disappointed, on top of that B is said to be super shy... I don't think there is anything wrong with what he said, he always supports Britney and seems concerned about her, as we are too.

[kleinbritney]

39 minutes ago, OopsOverprotected said:

hahhahah oh gosh why are you so bitter about them?

Because he has just published his biography in Germany. And I don't think it's nice to write nonsense about other stars. Especially when it comes to Britney and *****. As a Britney fan he should know that. We're glad Britney is slowly pulling the media over to her side in the fight against guardianship. Alleged **** stories harm Britney and have never been proven.

[Midnight]

[Drunkerella91]

1 hour ago, kleinbritney said:

Because he has just published his biography in Germany. And I don't think it's nice to write nonsense about other stars. Especially when it comes to Britney and *****. As a Britney fan he should know that. We're glad Britney is slowly pulling the media over to her side in the fight against guardianship. Alleged **** stories harm Britney and have never been proven.

I second that. Here in Germany Britney was always laughed at since 2007. She never got that "2nd chance" from german media. I think he IS a fan but considering his target group and market is Germany he should've thought about that when he published his book. Especially when he now talks about that in interviews. 

I like Bill but that was unnecessary 

[YoungOne]

he says it was disappointing, but doesn’t understand the whole situation behind it. ******* 

[Thecodeman25]

15 hours ago, PokemonSpears said:

how could they cut the filming if it was live? don't you mean the auditions?

Im assuming commercial break?

[ivosoares]

4 hours ago, kejotik said:

Yet she bounced back around 2015 during POM and it lasted up until the end of 2018! She was bubbly, radiant, confident and outgoing. And BAM! Again. Let's hospitalize her, let's **** her all over, let's turn her into a walking dead and milk the life out of her legacy since we sabotaged her own impulse to create something new, and all the while, lock her up and deprive her of human contact.

She bounced back partly, she was still having troubles but they were better at PR at that time. The Vegas shows till 2016, in my view, don’t kill me we’re not that great she was still in that ‘femme fatale tour medication’. In 2016, I suspect that she was taking some kind of stimulant medication because even though was seemed more energetic, the ticks and the weird behaviour started showing, by 2018 she was completely messed up mentally. I don’t doubt, knowing now what Jamie really is, she must have been threatened all the time that she would Lose her kids if she stopped complying, what mother wouldn’t just do what she was told to do in that situation? She cares more about her kids than herself Probably.
 

this is like that mk ultra mind control conspiracy but real life, what’s the difference, they’re literally trying to control her mind to be a robot and perform. No human life whatsoever. This is just disturbing that in this world things like this happen, to me. She’s not the only one, she probably the most famous one

[jennyj]

19 hours ago, PokemonSpears said:

Now, to call the incident at the X Factor a breakdown, sounds exaggerated too, when according to Simon, she eventually went back and continued with the shooting. Besides, according to the rumors, she left the set after a contestant butchered Hold It Against Me. If you look the backstage videos of her from that day she seems pretty normal (again, normal for 2012ney)

 

Exactly the 'breakdown' is definitely exaggerated.  Plus, a quarter way through the season, her personality, style, confidence, etc. changed for the better. It was only the first few weeks were she seemed off. She was obviously nervous and not 100% there in the beginning and we all know she doesn't like to talk negative against anyone (which this show involves since she's a judge), but then she was normal again and slaying every week and back to herself and enjoyable to watch after the first few weeks.

[Brat]

I like Tokio Hotel but Bill looks like the one who's drugged in that picture 

[PokemonSpears]

36 minutes ago, jennyj said:

Exactly the 'breakdown' is definitely exaggerated.  Plus, a quarter way through the season, her personality, style, confidence, etc. changed for the better. It was only the first few weeks were she seemed off. She was obviously nervous and not 100% there in the beginning and we all know she doesn't like to talk negative against anyone (which this show involves since she's a judge), but then she was normal again and slaying every week and back to herself and enjoyable to watch after the first few weeks.

I think she was definitely nervous, because this is obviously something she had never done before. She also stated in several interviews the live audience "was really live" (as she once said) meaning it was really intimidating to give a negative critique when the public didn't agree. 

However, I still disagree with the belief that she was forced to do so, when allegedly she used her participation on the X Factor to try to convince the judge about reducing the conservatorship, arguing she was the only conservatee under a $15 million contract. 

This is from the first day of auditions when she supposedly walked off. She seems pretty normal to me, just nervous. Not drugged nor forced to be there.

 

 

 

Not to mention,  that was the day she seemed the most comfortable judging people

 

[MortalMarshmallow]

He was quite the hedgehog 🦔 in his teenage years. Probably a big fan of the Sonic franchise . I think it’s cool he tells this story, hopefully he won’t get sued for libel or something like that.

His band was massive back in the days, but I never found him attractive or the songs interesting, the whole emo fad became too much for me. It was like a contemporary “neo-pop” money machine and not something special that it was supposed to portray . 

[Alexanda]

6 hours ago, One More Time said:

Who is this people? 

A successful singer, with more than 10 million copies sold. 

in his prime 

[Alexanda]

24 minutes ago, MortalMarshmallow said:

He was quite the hedgehog 🦔 in his teenage years. Probably a big fan of the Sonic franchise . I think it’s cool he tells this story, hopefully he won’t get sued for libel or something like that.

His band was massive back in the days, but I never found him attractive or the songs interesting, the whole emo fad became too much for me. It was like a contemporary “neo-pop” money machine and not something special that it was supposed to portray . 

Yeah, not attractive, but absolutely good looking with his own style.  

[MintChocoLatte]

I can’t judge his persona because I never really paid attention to them as a band or him. But I find it a little bit weird how people in here are attacking him for basically saying the same thing a lot of fans have been (and are) saying about 2011 Britney for example. His statement isn’t actually negative. We know she was on meds. We know she never wanted those. Whether she was as drugged as he says or just a little out of it doesn’t really matter here because the fact remains that what her team was doing to her then was never ok.

and since a few people in here mentioned anti psychotics, I just want to clear up that they’re not just given to psychotic people. Docs like to use them to sedate people or as sleep aids since low potent anti psychotics are more sedating than anti psychotic and a lot of them pretty much knock you on your ***. Having said that, we have no clue what meds she’s taken over the years. But it *could be possible because they’re used a lot. Over here for example old people with dementia get them too.

edit: addiction is a /often caused by mental illness. Don’t use it to bash people when it suits you. Not cool.

[OopsOverprotected]

10 minutes ago, Persona said:

I can’t judge his persona because I never really paid attention to them as a band or him. But I find it a little bit weird how people in here are attacking him for basically saying the same thing a lot of fans have been (and are) saying about 2011 Britney for example. His statement isn’t actually negative. We know she was on meds. We know she never wanted those. Whether she was as drugged as he says or just a little out of it doesn’t really matter here because the fact remains that what her team was doing to her then was never ok.

i couldn't agree more

[Sgt Spears deputy]

21 hours ago, Grumpy Cat said:

yup yup. looks like a classic atler- exhaler

 

Who knows,maybe he is register here

[Sgt Spears deputy]

6 hours ago, Drunkerella91 said:

I second that. Here in Germany Britney was always laughed at since 2007. She never got that "2nd chance" from german media. I think he IS a fan but considering his target group and market is Germany he should've thought about that when he published his book. Especially when he now talks about that in interviews. 

I like Bill but that was unnecessary 

Wrong. In 2008, Britney won a Bambi, Germans were ok with her again. Viva even played Womanizer for half an hour in a loop. But then, I don´t know why they started to hate her again. Without a reason. There were no bad stories/scandals about her anymore. She was working really hard and spend a lot of time with her boys. Back in 2010/2011 a friend and I had to be very careful because every Britney fan got bullied, not in that case that people laugh at you because they had another taste of music. This is ok. But when you run around with her T.Shirt, you could get enormous problems. My girlfriend doesn´t even dare to like Britney´s page on Facebook because she was afraid that she would have problems in her professional school or at her work.It could happend that they avoided her or that she even lost her job. But nowadays no one cares for her anymore. Since Britney Jean's era, she has nearly vanished in the mind of the Germans and you can be a fan in public again without being afraid to get harmed.

[Oxic]

I found it curious that he only talked about the time he meet her on the Playboy mansion but not on the M&G that was more recent?? lol (but ofc its obvious cuz the meet&greet was just a picture and probably little interaction, which encompasses the "Britney doesn't talk" stigma)

[Bigno]

Whoa to those getting pissed at what he said. I find nothing aggressive towards Britney. I mean, c'mon you guys, there are a gazillion videos, photos, interviews, accounts that speak volumes and make it completely clear that Britney was a bit foggy mentally and many times, more than just a bit. Seriously, the fact that, in the name of idolizing her, some people have completely dismissed the obviously off sides of this whole thing, is part of why it has taken 13 years (for some ppl) to realize she is not in a good place, not surrounded by ppl who have her best interest at heart. I remember some people would still say her posts on Instagram of her dancing like a tennis ball inside a blender were stunning. Until, finally, the awkwardness of it all became too big to ignore. She has been abused, she probably has been medicated wrongly, she has been controlled by people who only care about the money she can make them. Why is it so impossible to acknowledge that she behaves weirdly most likely due to everything we suspect but don't even clearly know? 

I am not surprised at all by his comment, I don't find it offensive. What are you supposed to say? Lie? She has looked drugged many times for years and just recently, fans have started accepting the very, very obvious.