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Thank you for all of this! Ever since I was a kid I felt like I identified with Britney. The scrutiny she went through and how she prevailed was inspiring to me and her resilience inspired and helped me in my own journey with coming out. In the last couple of years I’ve identified with Britney in ways I didn’t think I ever could

A couple of years ago my family and I had discovered my father is a functioning drug addiction. This is just a small piece in this history of his really abusive and manipulative actions. My father is a textbook narcissist. Over the years he has gaslighted my mother, my sister, and I all into believing that we owe him (as you said) for all of our past sins and making us believe that all of his wrongdoings are because of us.

Ive started my road to recovery right around the time the FreeBritney movement kicked off. So to really see all of Jamie’s abusive actions and whatnots and how that mirrors my own experience with my dad has just been so insane. I’m pretty scarred from the years of hell my dad put me through, I cannot imagine the scarring and trauma Britney has been out through with the fact there is fame, a conservatorship, money, and a whole bunch of other factors mixed in. Her resilience still astounds me and I love her so much. 
 

As for how the media treated her in 2007...that’s just America. People to this day whenever they find out I like Britney go “zOMGZ REMEMBER WHEN SHE WENT CRAZY?! What was even up with that?” No one even knows why they criticized her so much. That’s just cancel culture

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Hi! I'm happy to see your post!

Thanks for sharing your Britney story, your thoughts, and I'm sorry to hear about the work abuse you suffered.

The American media system was just garbage in the 2000s. The entire system profited off Britney going "crazy." The magazine publications, the TV networks, the paparazzi, the comedians, everyone. The American public saw it as entertainment. They loved seeing Britney become "America's sweetheart" and the girl next door, to an unbelievably famous and successful American icon, and then watching that image and that girl fall apart. Just like a lot of other American icons (Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson), people loved the talent and success of these icons, but they also loved to watch in fascination as they fell apart. It's the equivalent of rubbernecking at a car accident while driving past. You don't want to see it, but you do.

Also, mental health was not a discussion in America at this time. I don't think most people ever stopped to really consider all of the implications of the situation that Britney was in. Not a lot of people stopped to remember that she's human, that she's been working 24/7 since she was a child, that every move of hers was scrutinized and expected to be perfect, that she has no real way of having a normal life or social life since she's been an adult, that so many people were out to use and take advantage of her, that everyone was taking charge of her life but her, etc. For them, it was coming home from work/school after a long day and seeing Britney and saying "oh look, Britney's gone crazy again and hit a car with an umbrella!" It was just another form of entertainment to most Americans, and no one had really seen a star break down so publicly and so well-documented like that maybe ever.

I agree with you 100% that her reactions were very justified, and I'm surprised they weren't worse given her circumstances. And yes, a lot of young adults and teenagers do a lot of similar or worse things than what Britney did.

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2 minutes ago, studlygeorge said:

Thank you for all of this! Ever since I was a kid I felt like I identified with Britney. The scrutiny she went through and how she prevailed was inspiring to me and her resilience inspired and helped me in my own journey with coming out. In the last couple of years I’ve identified with Britney in ways I didn’t think I ever could

A couple of years ago my family and I had discovered my father is a functioning drug addiction. This is just a small piece in this history of his really abusive and manipulative actions. My father is a textbook narcissist. Over the years he has gaslighted my mother, my sister, and I all into believing that we owe him (as you said) for all of our past sins and making us believe that all of his wrongdoings are because of us.

Ive started my road to recovery right around the time the FreeBritney movement kicked off. So to really see all of Jamie’s abusive actions and whatnots and how that mirrors my own experience with my dad has just been so insane. I’m pretty scarred from the years of hell my dad put me through, I cannot imagine the scarring and trauma Britney has been out through with the fact there is fame, a conservatorship, money, and a whole bunch of other factors mixed in. Her resilience still astounds me and I love her so much. 
 

As for how the media treated her in 2007...that’s just America. People to this day whenever they find out I like Britney go “zOMGZ REMEMBER WHEN SHE WENT CRAZY?! What was even up with that?” No one even knows why they criticized her so much. That’s just cancel culture

I am so sorry about your situation and I really empathise with you. I'm glad you were able to get out. I strongly recommend the youtube channel I mentioned, specifically dedicated to this kind of abuse. It has been my lifeline throughout this year in between therapy sessions. The craziest part is that you cannot really put your finger on it, cannot really explain it to other people unless it happened to them as well. This channel helped me make sense of it. 

I understand criticizing - everybody's got opinions (although i cannot imagine most of those opinions being out in today's world). But that was something else: very normal actions framed as someone going crazy. Gaslighting on a societal level. 

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I thought the same she didn't do anything that extra imo, but there's a huge difference when you have kids and you don't have a stable lifestyle, we could tell that Kevin or Lynne was worried bc she was partying a lot. I think she was taking adderall and that helped her be more anxious and crazy looking. She was blind and couldn't see herself in t he big picture, she was somehow depressed but ignoring it, her dad went to an extreme when he could just set for her a nice environment without place her under a c-ship. Britney was always inspiring to me because she always gave me the idea of doing what you want without other people opinions, even if you get lost in the middle of it all, that's life and you'll find your way eventually, we are here to live life and everyone will have some struggles to deal with.

And yeah there's no need to talk about her current situation when she's in the middle of a battle, she was probably advised not to cause it could be messy and add more stress, I think when she's ready she will say something, I don't think there's nothing personal happening to her at the moment (like, she's being locked at her home without her will or crazy stuff like that), she's just taking a break from work and living her life, I think it's her choice to not be out there, she's enjoying a quiet life atm... sunsets, hikings, going to the beach, eating fresh. After the accountability she will be ready to put herself out there again, i guess.

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1 minute ago, Urbanney said:

Hi! I'm happy to see your post!

Thanks for sharing your Britney story, your thoughts, and I'm sorry to hear about the work abuse you suffered.

The American media system was just garbage in the 2000s. The entire system profited off Britney going "crazy." The magazine publications, the TV networks, the paparazzi, the comedians, everyone. The American public saw it as entertainment. They loved seeing Britney become "America's sweetheart" and the girl next door, to an unbelievably famous and successful American icon, and then watching that image and that girl fall apart. Just like a lot of other American icons (Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson), people loved the talent and success of them, but they also loved to watch in fascination as they fell apart.

Also, mental health was not a discussion in America at this time. I don't think most people ever stopped to really consider all of the implications of the situation that Britney was in. Not a lot of people stopped to remember that she's human, that she's been working 24/7 since she was a child, that every move of hers is scrutinized and expected to be perfect, that she has no real way of having a normal life or social life since she's been an adult, that so many people were out to use and take advantage of her, etc. For them, it was coming home from work/school after a long day and seeing Britney and saying "oh look, Britney's gone crazy again and hit a car with an umbrella!" It was just another form of entertainment to most Americans, and no one had really seen a star break down like that so publicly and so well-documented maybe ever.

thanks! 

ok, but how is hitting a car with an umbrella crazy? It may be an overreaction (although i don't think it is) but crazy? 

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3 minutes ago, bachelorette said:

thanks! 

ok, but how is hitting a car with an umbrella crazy? It may be an overreaction (although i don't think it is) but crazy? 

I mean, generally, if you hear that someone has hit someone else's car with an umbrella, it's not a sign that that person is in a good place mentally imo lol.

People didn't really stop to try to think and understand why Britney did that in the first place, all they saw was this bizarre image of what was once America's sweetheart, girl next door, and *** icon as a bald, angry, grunting woman with a menacing look on her face and an umbrella. People didn't stop to think about all the paparazzi that follows her around nonstop with 0 privacy. They just saw that image and thought she was crazy.

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9 minutes ago, bachelorette said:

thanks! 

ok, but how is hitting a car with an umbrella crazy? It may be an overreaction (although i don't think it is) but crazy? 

Everything is crazy for Americans, crazy is like their word for everything lol JK, i think it's bc of religion roots in the culture, Europe (in general) is more chill, America/USA is more Christian, religious and patriarchal. For a woman every little mistake is hysterical and crazy so...

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6 minutes ago, Urbanney said:

I mean, generally, if you hear that someone has hit someone else's car with an umbrella, it's not a sign that that person is in a good place mentally imo lol.

People didn't really stop to try to think and understand why Britney did that in the first place, all they saw was this bizarre image of what was once America's sweetheart, girl next door, and *** icon as a bald, angry, grunting woman with a menacing look on her face and an umbrella. People didn't stop to think about all the paparazzi that follows her around nonstop with 0 privacy. They just saw that image and thought she was crazy.

Not necessarily. You can be a totally healthy person, mentally, but have some reserved anger, if you're more of private person, and it can sometimes get out. And in that particular situation I can even go as far as saying it was justified. I'd kick them in the balls at least lol 

But I see what you're saying. Nobody wants to get into details. Today this is even more pronounced I guess, it's just that most people are more scared to air out their stupid beliefs due to possible backlash. 

Edit: I even remembered one situation like that in my life, quite recently. Last year a guy groped me in the subway, and although this happens to every girl every now and then and had happened to me before on numerous occasions and I never reacted, that day for some reason I couldn't take it and just went bat**** crazy on the guy, found some adrenaline-led wonderwoman strength in me, hit him and dragged to the police room at the subway station. Pretty sure if someone took a picture of me at that particular moment, I would look much worse than Britney lol

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11 minutes ago, Dirk said:

Everything is crazy for Americans, crazy is like their word for everything lol JK, i think it's bc of religion roots in the culture, Europe (in general) is more chill, America/USA is more Christian, religious and patriarchal. For a woman every little mistake is hysterical and crazy so...

You're probably right. I am trying to recall something similar happening to other celebrities after Britney (not counting Lindsey etc. around that same time) and I can't though. Just inventing someone being crazy. 

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Sorry to hear what u went through, as for Britney, I think her being a mother played a big part in why people criticized her, unfortunately, here in America, to most people, they think once u become a mother, u can no longer have a life, have fun, u get the picture, lol, if it was just her, I honestly believe the hoopla would have been less.

As for attacking the paps with the umbrella, while the pics are disturbing to look at, I still have trouble looking at them, I see nothing wrong or crazy about the action, I think her being a woman played a big part in that criticism, she certainly wasn’t the first celeb to go after the paps (Sean Penn was having it out with them back in the freaking 80’s, lol) and she wasn’t the last, I truly believe if she were a man, no one would have batted an eye at any of the stuff she was doing.

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2 hours ago, Urbanney said:

I mean, generally, if you hear that someone has hit someone else's car with an umbrella, it's not a sign that that person is in a good place mentally imo lol.

People didn't really stop to try to think and understand why Britney did that in the first place, all they saw was this bizarre image of what was once America's sweetheart, girl next door, and *** icon as a bald, angry, grunting woman with a menacing look on her face and an umbrella. People didn't stop to think about all the paparazzi that follows her around nonstop with 0 privacy. They just saw that image and thought she was crazy.

Britney did not hit the umbrella because she thought this was fun. She did this because she was pissed for a good reason. She was not allowed to see her children, who were at Kevin´s mansion whish she paid by the way. She stands an hour outside because the doorbell did not work. After the visiting hour, they went to her and tell her it is too late. She said it was not her fault, she was on time, but they didn't care. And I read somewhere that Lynn was at that time with Kevin in the mansion...And Britney thought at that time that her mother slept with Kevin. (not just at this day but in general)

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I see it as there’s a lot that we don’t know therefore can’t understand. For instance, the cship protects her from some entity or circumstance we have absolutely zero knowledge about. Because otherwise it is completely out of mind that it has perpetuated for so long. Especially since she’s proved herself as fully functioning and capable time and again.

Even more, through court docs, Britney expressed she doesn’t want the cship to be a family secret. As it seems, her team and family disagree. Thus the fans are in the dark to speculate the worst.

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i wish people had been more sympathetic to her mental health struggles but i don't think her behavior was "normal." it's one thing to go to an occasional party or enjoy a few drinks, but as a parent, it was irresponsible to party & indulge in alcohol/drugs to the extent that she did back then. random wigs, british accents out of nowhere, etc., really indicated that she wasn't okay. these things isolated would be fine but all of these events combined showed how much she was struggling. i love britney but she was not acting normally back then (especially because she was mid-20s, not even college aged). i dont think it warranted a conservatorship whatsoever but she definitely needed a wakeup call. i do think everyone overreacted and shouldve focused more on helping her rather than shaming her but idk. i just have to disagree with some of the things you have said. 

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6 hours ago, MonaLisa613 said:

Sorry to hear what u went through, as for Britney, I think her being a mother played a big part in why people criticized her, unfortunately, here in America, to most people, they think once u become a mother, u can no longer have a life, have fun, u get the picture, lol, if it was just her, I honestly believe the hoopla would have been less.

thing is she was never allowed to do anything (I mean, allowed by the general public). At the beginning, because she was too young, then because she had a boyfriend, then because she married, then because she was a mom, then because she was divorced, but now that she's under control, no one bats an eye and everybody thinks is very normal for her to do all those things she's done under a conservatorship (though now apparently she can't dance in her house or not look like she's ready for a professional photoshoot, because that's like a sign of being ill or something).

 

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I agree, her behaviour was never crazy , I think she just wanted to rebel and that’s normal in situation that she was in.

I remember when I was teenager, I started smoking cigars and everyone was like “OMG can’t belive, you shouldn’t do that, it’s ok when we are doing it, but you are this perfect guy, blah blah..”. I felt horrible and wanted to do it even more.

I can’t imagine what it was like for her having whole world judging her. She actually handled it extremly well. 

She was definitly manipulated by media at that time, it’s a miracle that she’s still in music industry after everything. 

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6 hours ago, mannequin19 said:

i wish people had been more sympathetic to her mental health struggles but i don't think her behavior was "normal." it's one thing to go to an occasional party or enjoy a few drinks, but as a parent, it was irresponsible to party & indulge in alcohol/drugs to the extent that she did back then. random wigs, british accents out of nowhere, etc., really indicated that she wasn't okay. these things isolated would be fine but all of these events combined showed how much she was struggling. i love britney but she was not acting normally back then (especially because she was mid-20s, not even college aged). i dont think it warranted a conservatorship whatsoever but she definitely needed a wakeup call. i do think everyone overreacted and shouldve focused more on helping her rather than shaming her but idk. i just have to disagree with some of the things you have said. 

I still think these were completely normal healthy reactions to an unhealthy situation. She wanted to get out of the house which reminded her of bad times and that her children were not there. I can totally relate to that, to me this is not a signal of someone being crazy, but rather the opposite - not devoid of empathy and feelings. As for the wigs and british accent, also, I don't think this is crazy but just a depersonalization tool as a coping mechanism. She was probably suffering from depression and possibly other things at the time but you don't put someone under these constraints because they're depressed. And certainly being depressed doesn't equal being crazy. 

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4 hours ago, PokemonSpears said:

thing is she was never allowed to do anything (I mean, allowed by the general public). At the beginning, because she was too young, then because she had a boyfriend, then because she married, then because she was a mom, then because she was divorced, but now that she's under control, no one bats an eye and everybody thinks is very normal for her to do all those things she's done under a conservatorship (though now apparently she can't dance in her house or not look like she's ready for a professional photoshoot, because that's like a sign of being ill or something).

 

True, she was damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t since day one.

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