TakeYourHand Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 The ones that last long. JT was her pop culture era. Kfed was her rebellion era. Sam is her fitness era. They all play a huge influence. Do you agree?
TakeYourHand Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 8 hours ago, GMFlop said: Terrible taste... I mean we all have taste I just wish she wasn’t so heavily influenced because the line of love and codependency seems to get crossed often and she thrives every time she’s single because she has no choice but too focus on herself. It’s clearly hard for her but I think she’s strong enough to get through anything at this point. It’s kinda like the #freebritney movement. Maybe she just needs the reminder. That’s not an open invitation to spark a #besinglebritney movement but I just want the women to believe in herself.
nerdygeekgrl Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 She doesn't really have a pattern with men... it's more like, whoever she dates, she mirrors who they are. She's got no self identity. I'm no love guru, but I've always been told you can't love someone until you learn to love yourself. If she has no idea who she is and always does everything the partner does.... what good is the relationship then? There's no balance. It's just repetition of the same stuff and eventually it becomes boring. I truly believe the best thing for her to do (now, when she's freed, or at some point in the future) is to remain single, find her own identity as to who she is, what SHE likes/dislikes, what she wants to do (entertainment related or personal related) and once she's found her true calling she can then find a partner who can respect/accept/help her with these goals. She gives and gives to these men but what she does get in return? Maybe she does... who knows? But the perception we get is she receives nothing and is heartbroken every time.
TakeYourHand Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, nerdygeekgrl said: She doesn't really have a pattern with men... it's more like, whoever she dates, she mirrors who they are. She's got no self identity. I'm no love guru, but I've always been told you can't love someone until you learn to love yourself. If she has no idea who she is and always does everything the partner does.... what good is the relationship then? There's no balance. It's just repetition of the same stuff and eventually it becomes boring. I truly believe the best thing for her to do (now, when she's freed, or at some point in the future) is to remain single, find her own identity as to who she is, what SHE likes/dislikes, what she wants to do (entertainment related or personal related) and once she's found her true calling she can then find a partner who can respect/accept/help her with these goals. She gives and gives to these men but what she does get in return? Maybe she does... who knows? But the perception we get is she receives nothing and is heartbroken every time. As far as the pattern thing goes I meant her behavior with men. It’s more alarming now because she’s older. I agree with you though. I think she falls easy because in return she simply gets attention and her relationships (with the exception of JT) are more of a distraction or “fun time” away from all the chaos in her life. It appears like they’re always an escape and not something built on solid ground. No structure. I mean Sam could love her, who’s to say? I just find it odd based on his age, his history of exes, and his reputation.
Jam. Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Although I really don't like JT for what he did after their breakup, I think he was her last "real" and healthy relationship. They knew each other since they were kids so they had that foundation of friendship already, and they dated for 3-4 years, starting around the time she started to get more famous (or even a little earlier, maybe they were already a thing when she was opening for Nsync?) I think the only reason it didn't work out was that they were really young and a little immature, so some cheating must have happened -- I mean, they were two of the most famous celebrities of that time, I'm sure they got a lot of offers for ***, opportunities for partying etc and when you're in your early 20s that can be really appealing So sad, I hope I'm wrong in my assumptions of Sam and that Sam is being good for her, I'm starting to believe he is given how long they've been together but idk...
2K16NEY Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Well.. Britney's always been about her fitness her entire life... way before Sam. I agree with Kevin being her rebellion era. She wanted to date someone who was the complete opposite of JT and yeah, didn't end well as we all know.
nerdygeekgrl Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 48 minutes ago, Jam. said: So sad, I hope I'm wrong in my assumptions of Sam and that Sam is being good for her, I'm starting to believe he is given how long they've been together but idk... He's just compliant because he made a deal with them: date her, do what we say and yo'll be famous. So.... he's following orders. He's also very gullible. I bet Lou throws big words around him and he's like "Uhh, oh, okay, yeah, sure." As many have said, he's not a threat. He won't put up a fight w Jamie or Lou because he wants to desperately be famous so he will do as they say. He's younger and not that bright. Someone older will be able to think logically and put 2 and 2 together right away and smell the BS. He can't. The only thing he smells is the latest 1stPhorm powdered drink: Mocha Choca Peanut Butter Twist
Halseyfan Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 2 hours ago, nerdygeekgrl said: She doesn't really have a pattern with men... it's more like, whoever she dates, she mirrors who they are. She's got no self identity. I'm no love guru, but I've always been told you can't love someone until you learn to love yourself. If she has no idea who she is and always does everything the partner does.... what good is the relationship then? There's no balance. It's just repetition of the same stuff and eventually it becomes boring. I truly believe the best thing for her to do (now, when she's freed, or at some point in the future) is to remain single, find her own identity as to who she is, what SHE likes/dislikes, what she wants to do (entertainment related or personal related) and once she's found her true calling she can then find a partner who can respect/accept/help her with these goals. She gives and gives to these men but what she does get in return? Maybe she does... who knows? But the perception we get is she receives nothing and is heartbroken every time. Given her mental heath struggles and her extremely codependent relationship patterns...she could have Borderline Personality Disorder, I don’t know if that has been suggested yet, but it could be a possibility? Also that could be on top of another mental illness or addiction in the past.
nerdygeekgrl Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Halseyfan said: Given her mental heath struggles and her extremely codependent relationship patterns...she could have Borderline Personality Disorder, I don’t know if that has been suggested yet, but it could be a possibility? Also that could be on top of another mental illness or addiction in the past. Who knows, but ur right, it COULD be a possibility. That woukd Def explain the lack of identity she possesses and she manifests it thru her boyfriends.
TakeYourHand Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, 2K16NEY said: Well.. Britney's always been about her fitness her entire life... way before Sam. I agree with Kevin being her rebellion era. She wanted to date someone who was the complete opposite of JT and yeah, didn't end well as we all know. I knows she’s always enjoyed being in shape but it seems to be something she projects more than ever since dating Sam. The work out videos in her little shorts and crop tops didn’t start until she was dating him. Yes people can be influenced but I see Britney crystal clear when she’s single. I think 2015ney/2016ney was a rebirth because she was single AND Bryan took the reigns. Perfect recipe for a chance at real success.
TakeYourHand Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 4 hours ago, TakeYourHand said: As far as the pattern thing goes I meant her behavior with men. It’s more alarming now because she’s older. I agree with you though. I think she falls easy because in return she simply gets attention and her relationships (with the exception of JT) are more of a distraction or “fun time” away from all the chaos in her life. It appears like they’re always an escape and not something built on solid ground. No structure. I mean Sam could love her, who’s to say? I just find it odd based on his age, his history of exes, and his reputation. There’s two sides and one truth. I don’t think you’re 100% wrong but I do believe Sam has changed over time. He had to make a choice. He can leave at any point and if that agreement stood firm today, he wouldn’t have posted about #freebritney days ago. I personally don’t believe he’s in love with Britney but he’s grown to care about the person she is. I also think it’s unfair for the fan base to judge him so harshly when he’s not capable of doing much of anything at his age. Every move he’s makes is very public and has a bigger consequence than everyday people. The only thing he’s responsible for besides himself is realizing he’s choosing to be with a megastar. I think he does ok. Yes he can benefit but at what cost? He can also have his name slammed because of how big she is and he’s currently dealing with that yet instead of leaving he’s posting what side he’s on. I guess time will tell. As for right now I’m giving the guy credit.
Guest Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Jam. said: Although I really don't like JT for what he did after their breakup, I think he was her last "real" and healthy relationship. They knew each other since they were kids so they had that foundation of friendship already, and they dated for 3-4 years, starting around the time she started to get more famous (or even a little earlier, maybe they were already a thing when she was opening for Nsync?) I think the only reason it didn't work out was that they were really young and a little immature, so some cheating must have happened -- I mean, they were two of the most famous celebrities of that time, I'm sure they got a lot of offers for ***, opportunities for partying etc and when you're in your early 20s that can be really appealing So sad, I hope I'm wrong in my assumptions of Sam and that Sam is being good for her, I'm starting to believe he is given how long they've been together but idk... After the split, Justin said a few times in 2002/2003 that he was in a relationship with her for 3 and half years and other times he said he was for 4 years. From 2002-2003 they got back together a couple of times at least. In late 2002 she said he broke up with her and then she broke up with him. A couple of years ago JC and Lance said they were there when they first got together, broke up, got back together and broke up again. And of course, back in 2003 Fred Durst said he had enough when she ditched him to go see Justin. That was around the time she went to his bday in early 2003. So maybe thats why from 2002 to 2003 sometimes Justin said they dated for 3 and half years and others he said they dated for 4 years, bc after the official split, they still had smt for a while. Who knows how long they were together after they officially split and how many times they hooked up after that. So yeah, they started dating in late 1998. She said here they were in a radio show before BOMT came out and he got off the stage to see her backstage after and asked her out. I guess that was before she went on tour with Nsync. 2:12 Here they were def on tour already (she still had brown hair) and they already seemed an item Tbh I dont like him and he acted as a bitter and pressed jerk after their broke up, but I do think he liked her and thats why he acted the way he did bc he has a huge ego and couldnt accept whatever happened between them. They were young, immature, too much famous and overworked like u said. They probably had issues bc they were away from each other for so much time, maybe they had jealous or trust issues as well, who knows. But they were def important to each other. Justin used to live with Britney at the first house she bought, then they bought a house together. His mom, dad and stepmom follow her on Instagram till this day (they dont follow Cameron), so I dont think its fair to say he only used her to get a solo career. I mean, when they started dating, she wasnt even famous yet. Nsync was way bigger than Britney back in 1998 and she even opened for them until early 99. How could he have known she would get more famous than him at some point? And he probably even got pressed bc after their finally confirmed their relationship after 2 years of dating, it was all about her from then on. Sometimes u could see he was ok and jolly talking about her but other times he wasnt feeling probably bc he wanted to talk about music or bc the other guys didnt want the whole thing to be about Britney and Justin. Chris complained about that a few times back then. Anyway he used her after the break up bc hes a jerk with a big ego who got hurt and wanted attention and to get back at her, but saying he used her from the start is far fetched.
Jam. Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Bundy said: After the split, Justin said a few times in 2002/2003 that he was in a relationship with her for 3 and half years and other times he said he was for 4 years. From 2002-2003 they got back together a couple of times at least. In late 2002 she said he broke up with her and then she broke up with him. A couple of years ago JC and Lance said they were there when they first got together, broke up, got back together and broke up again. And of course, back in 2003 Fred Durst said he had enough when she ditched him to go see Justin. That was around the time she went to his bday in early 2003. So maybe thats why from 2002 to 2003 sometimes Justin said they dated for 3 and half years and others he said they dated for 4 years, bc after the official split, they still had smt for a while. Who knows how long they were together after they officially split and how many times they hooked up after that. So yeah, they started dating in late 1998. She said here they were in a radio show before BOMT came out and he got off the stage to see her backstage after and asked her out. I guess that was before she went on tour with Nsync. 2:12 Here they were def on tour already (she still had brown hair) and they already seemed an item Tbh I dont like him and he acted as a bitter and pressed jerk after their broke up, but I do think he liked her and thats why he acted the way he did bc he has a huge ego and couldnt accept whatever happened between them. They were young, immature, too much famous and overworked like u said. They probably had issues bc they were away from each other for so much time, maybe they had jealous or trust issues as well, who knows. But they were def important to each other. Justin used to live with Britney at the first house she bought, then they bought a house together. His mom, dad and stepmom follow her on Instagram till this day (they dont follow Cameron), so I dont think its fair to say he only used her to get a solo career. I mean, when they started dating, she wasnt even famous yet. Nsync was way bigger than Britney back in 1998 and she even opened for them until early 99. How could he have known she would get more famous than him at some point? And he probably even got pressed bc after their finally confirmed their relationship after 2 years of dating, it was all about her from then on. Sometimes u could see he was ok and jolly talking about her but other times he wasnt feeling probably bc he wanted to talk about music or bc the other guys didnt want the whole thing to be about Britney and Justin. Chris complained about that a few times back then. Anyway he used her after the break up bc hes a jerk with a big ego who got but and wanted attention and to get back at her, but saying he used her from the start is far fetched. Yup I agree, he definitely didn’t think of using her when they first got together but I’m sure that radio interview he did where he “confessed” that they in fact had ***, that Barbara Walters interview, THE CRY ME A RIVER MUSIC VIDEO after their breakup were all attempts to increase his fame at the start of his solo career, which worked, I mean Justin was no fool. He was a real a jerk after their breakup but to be fair, if Britney did cheat on him (I guess it’s something we’ll never know for sure) I can understand why he acted like that... I don’t agree with it but I get it I’m happy they seemed to have moved on from it, she talked about wanting to collab with him and his music a few times in recent years and he gave a really cute response to her once in an interview, it was a long time ago so it only makes sense that they forgave each other for whatever happened and moved on
jordeezy tm Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 9 hours ago, nerdygeekgrl said: She doesn't really have a pattern with men... it's more like, whoever she dates, she mirrors who they are. She's got no self identity. I'm no love guru, but I've always been told you can't love someone until you learn to love yourself. If she has no idea who she is and always does everything the partner does.... what good is the relationship then? There's no balance. It's just repetition of the same stuff and eventually it becomes boring. I truly believe the best thing for her to do (now, when she's freed, or at some point in the future) is to remain single, find her own identity as to who she is, what SHE likes/dislikes, what she wants to do (entertainment related or personal related) and once she's found her true calling she can then find a partner who can respect/accept/help her with these goals. She gives and gives to these men but what she does get in return? Maybe she does... who knows? But the perception we get is she receives nothing and is heartbroken every time. I have this same issue with relationships as well - they give me tunnel vision. I think if she chooses to stay with a guy for a long time then the obsession can become healthy or maybe she will grow out if it.
Guest Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Jam. said: Yup I agree, he definitely didn’t think of using her when they first got together but I’m sure that radio interview he did where he “confessed” that they in fact had ***, that Barbara Walters interview, THE CRY ME A RIVER MUSIC VIDEO were all attempts to increase his fame at the start of his solo career, which worked, I mean Justin was no fool. He was a real a jerk after their breakup but to be fair, if Britney did cheat on him (I guess it’s something we’ll never know for sure) I can understand why he acted like that... I don’t agree with it but I get it I’m happy they seemed to have moved on from it, she talked about wanting to collab with him and his music a few times in recent years and he gave a really cute response to her once in an interview, it was a long time ago so it only makes sense that they forgave each other for whatever happened and moved on I think he did what he did not only for his solo career, but also bc he was still pressed and wanted to get back at her. He wanted to **** shame her, he def wanted to hurt her and he got what he wanted, she felt ashamed (the girl who wrote Everytime with her said that). I really dont know how Britney could hook up with him after all the bs he did tbh. I mean, after the cmar video, Barbara Walters interview, the radio one where he said he went down on her, the many interviews he implied she cheated on him, she still went to his bday in early 2003 I guess she probably felt guilty for whatever she did and still hooked up with him after all the **** he did. Funny thing is even after he got the success he wanted, all the grammys, he still was talking how she broke his heart. Until like 2016 when Buzzfeed made that article calling him out. I also think after he became a dad he probably stopped being so bitter and bipolar towards her. There are interviews where he mentions her out of the blue like one he did with Cameron when they were promoting their movie, there are others he even deffended her dancing and was nice and then he shades her live. There are interviews where he talks about Preston and Kevin that are really awkward as well. Acting as a pressed ex lol Btw do u know cmar wasnt even his idea? Francis Lawrence gave him the idea and he said they never mentioned Britneys name on set. That sounded to me that JT was so pressed at the time that Francis wouldnt dare to mention her name, he even chose the girl to be Britney. I dont think JT was a saint, but I do believe Britney cheated on him with Wade. He was probably mad bc Wade was his friend. They never worked or were seen together after 2002 and a choreographer who knew Britney, Justin and Wade confirmed years ago. Michael Jacksons niece who dated Wade for years also said it was true. I feel like Britney felt lonely and Wade took advantage of that. There is an interview where Britney says laughing that all JT did when he was with her was to play with his playstation. I could feel there was truth to that even If she was laughing. When Diane Sawyer asked her about cheating she never denied and said "I was upset for a while" so my two cents is she felt ignored by him and Wade paid attention and made a move. He was friends with both, he probably knew/felt when things started going wrong between them. His ex gf said he was investing on it for a while, that he started changing after he started working a lot with her. Also JC Chasez and Alyssa Milano said she broke his heart. I think Britney forgave him way faster than him. Her decision of firing Johnny Wright in 2003 was probably to finally move on from him (Johnny said she fired him in 2003 after their split, I guess she probably fired him after the last time she had smt with JT and was done with him). When was the last time she shaded him? 2004? He shaded her until 2018 I think. And since 2013 she talks about him as an artist. She respects his work. Justin always seemed more pressed, bitter and vengeful. But I do think things started getting messier with her when they broke up. He probably gave her stability and he understood all the pressure she faced... he always did handle press and media better than her. He was never shy, he was probably her scape from all the chaos and people wanting more and more from her. With him she could be normal bc he knew her since they were kids and bc Justin didnt need anything from her besides her love. He had money, career and a good family who probably never took advantage of him. His mom loved her, he was really close to his mom, his mom was happily married. I never saw his mom as a stage mom like Lynne is.
Guest Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Jam. said: Although I really don't like JT for what he did after their breakup, I think he was her last "real" and healthy relationship. They knew each other since they were kids so they had that foundation of friendship already, and they dated for 3-4 years, starting around the time she started to get more famous (or even a little earlier, maybe they were already a thing when she was opening for Nsync?) I think the only reason it didn't work out was that they were really young and a little immature, so some cheating must have happened -- I mean, they were two of the most famous celebrities of that time, I'm sure they got a lot of offers for ***, opportunities for partying etc and when you're in your early 20s that can be really appealing So sad, I hope I'm wrong in my assumptions of Sam and that Sam is being good for her, I'm starting to believe he is given how long they've been together but idk... I forgot to send u this on the other post lol Someone asked this Britneys former dancer on this post If she was that close to JT and she said "yes we were all like family. When I danced for Britney, we toured with NSYNC and of course he was always around bec well he was her BF 😉"
Jam. Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Bundy said: I think he did what he did not only for his solo career, but also bc he was still pressed and wanted to get back at her. He wanted to **** shame her, he def wanted to hurt her and he got what he wanted, she felt ashamed (the girl who wrote Everytime with her said that). I really dont know how Britney could hook up with him after all the bs he did tbh. I mean, after the cmar video, Barbara Walters interview, the radio one where he said he went down on her, the many interviews he implied she cheated on him, she still went to his bday in early 2003 I guess she probably felt guilty for whatever she did and still hooked up with him after all the **** he did. Funny thing is even after he got the success he wanted, all the grammys, he still was talking how she broke his heart. Until like 2016 when Buzzfeed made that article calling him out. I also think after he became a dad he probably stopped being so bitter and bipolar towards her. There are interviews where he mentions her out of the blue like one he did with Cameron when they were promoting their movie, there are others he even deffended her dancing and was nice and then he shades her live. There are interviews where he talks about Preston and Kevin that are really awkward as well. Acting as a pressed ex lol Btw do u know cmar wasnt even his idea? Francis Lawrence gave him the idea and he said they never mentioned Britneys name on set. That sounded to me that JT was so pressed at the time that Francis wouldnt dare to mention her name, he even chose the girl to be Britney. I dont think JT was a saint, but I do believe Britney cheated on him with Wade. He was probably mad bc Wade was his friend. They never worked or were seen together after 2002 and a choreographer who knew Britney, Justin and Wade confirmed years ago. Michael Jacksons niece who dated Wade for years also said it was true. I feel like Britney felt lonely and Wade took advantage of that. There is an interview where Britney says laughing that all JT did when he was with her was to play with his playstation. I could feel there was truth to that even If she was laughing. When Diane Sawyer asked her about cheating she never denied and said "I was upset for a while" so my two cents is she felt ignored by him and Wade paid attention and made a move. He was friends with both, he probably knew/felt when things started going wrong between them. His ex gf said he was investing on it for a while, that he started changing after he started working a lot with her. Also JC Chasez and Alyssa Milano said she broke his heart. I think Britney forgave him way faster than him. Her decision of firing Johnny Wright in 2003 was probably to finally move on from him (Johnny said she fired him in 2003 after their split, I guess she probably fired him after the last time she had smt with JT and was done with him). When was the last time she shaded him? 2004? He shaded her until 2018 I think. And since 2013 she talks about him as an artist. She respects his work. Justin always seemed more pressed, bitter and vengeful. But I do think things started getting messier with her when they broke up. He probably gave her stability and he understood all the pressure she faced... he always did handle press and media better than her. He was never shy, he was probably her scape from all the chaos and people wanting more and more from her. With him she could be normal bc he knew her since they were kids and bc Justin didnt need anything from her besides her love. He had money, career and a good family who probably never took advantage of him. His mom loved her, he was really close to his mom, his mom was happily married. I never saw his mom as a stage mom like Lynne is. Yeah I can see that about him "calming down" after becoming a dad. Pretty sure one of his last "shady" moments was when he did that "you know when you love somebody but then it turns out that she's a real *****" speech before performing CMAR, I think at the iHeartRadio festival in 2013? Then he took to twitter to apologise cause a lot of people thought he was talking about Britney (he definitely was imo, but he obviously had to apologise when people called him out on it ), his son was born in 2015 and I don't think he's been shady since then so it makes sense. It's interesting cause back then he got away with ****-shaming her, and the media/general public were on his side, but if their breakup happened recently and he tried to do what he did back then, he'd quickly get called out on it, as we've seen with that recent buzzfeed article that really changed the public opinion about him. A lot of interviews he did where he was asked about their breakup were so awkward too, do you remember that one him and Christina gave to promote their joint tour where at one point Christina was explaining why she thought Britney and Justin should get back together and while she was talking, Justin just started whistling and acting like a teenage boy it was uncomfortable as hell. I didn't know about Francis Lawrence giving the idea for the mv Justin still called Britney to ask if she was cool with the mv having a lookalike which is interesting. Oh yeah I completely forgot Brandi Jackson basically confirmed it last year that Britney cheated on Justin with Wade. Apparently Wade Robson had a history of getting romantically involved with women he hoped would help his career, he also had a thing with Mayte Garcie (Prince's then ex-wife and choreographer for I'm a Slave 4 U). I remember that interview of Britney mentioning Justin was always playing videogames when they were together, always made me wonder if that was one of the reasons that led to her cheating - I mean she basically says it in "Guilty". So sad, it's clear they were good for each other, they seemed so happy in MTV's diary special they made for her his mom seemed like a second mom to Britney, it's interesting that she still follows Britney and a fanpage for Sean and Jayden on instagram to this day (funnily enough, she doesn't follow Cameron Diaz lmao). I think him having a better family life than Britney made him have the ability to have healthier relationships, clearly Britney was fragile and couldn't stand being alone so she cheated on him with Wade - if she had a better support system from her family like Justin did with his, things might've turned out better.
NewDisplayName Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Hm Britney was train addict before Sam, britney started to rebel Before k-homeless-fed, britney was on top of the world without JT But the thing is that she really seem to be naive at least seemed.. and it’s normal cause when you are famous you don’t want to think that others want to use you and want to believe that they love you besides that you are britney goddess spears.. + her self confidence was always low (it’s started growing in 2003 or she wanted to show that way.. I don’t know)
Micce_InBut Black Out Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 But Sam is not bad i think Britney wants to hold him in her arms ;D she has good Sam
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