Britney's lawyer SLAMS the conservatorship team and Tri-Star for the HUGE amounts of money they're paid

[illuminatiney]

1 hour ago, Jordan Miller said:

Yea but you're shading me saying I support Lou Taylor which is obviously not true. Why? Because I said to stop wishing death threats on others? Or that I said it doesn't help Britney by calling Jamie colon or Lou Taylor Loucifer? That I want people to try and write with compassion and understanding versus spite? 

This place is not a church Jordy

[Iiquoricebabe]

#FREEBRITNEY 

[Jordan Miller]

21 minutes ago, illuminatiney said:

This place is not a church Jordy

99% of places aren't churches.

There's a lot I'm willing to be flexible on, but being cool with intentional negativity or hate will never be it. 

[rennen]

I have to say I really dislike all the stupid nicknames some fans insist on calling those in her "team" - inverted commas because a team is supposed to be supportive and hers are clearly not. 

Can we just call them by their names? The nicknames are so childish and do absolutely nothing to help the movement. It just makes us look pathetic. It's not that difficult to be mature and express an opinion without resorting to the childish nicknames and wishing death upon those in her "team". 

We have enough facts about this conservatorship to spread detailed information, and we also have court documents now which validate that Britney supports the moment etc so let's be sensible. 

[sanpedro]

1 hour ago, ToySoldier12 said:

It was negotiated because Britney wasn’t working anymore and he was too expensive. So, Ingham negotiated his departure but provided him with the so-called golden parachute. 

The explanation he gave still makes 0 sense. He said that it he wasn’t removed immediately there would be harm and damage done to Britney that she would never recover from. There’s definitely another reason...

[ColdAsFire89]

2 hours ago, everybodygoesdown said:

Just "hey can I have 500k dollas a year, okay ya sure approved"

Jail those mf's.

 

+ the hundreds of millions of dollars being managed bringing in a ****load of commission to stone bridge

[Iiquoricebabe]

I love how Ingham and Britney are playing Jamie and Lou at their own game.

Right after the very onset of the cship she was fighting about the legitimacy of the cship itself 

Now she’s like fine  this is voluntary, it’s good for me and it’s meant to protect me , but take a look at what the people who are meant to help me are actually doing 

[PokemonSpears]

38 minutes ago, Steel Magnolia said:

By "evidence" I meant that Ingham must have come across some new evidence in 2019.

There was a reason why Ingham went from being independent to being on "Team Britney."

because he literally lives off of conservatorship cases

Lisa McCarley even talks about it in her letter. Sam Ingham III seems to be a favorite when it comes to court-appointed attorneys in celebrity cases. Casey Kasem comes to mind as an example (the one case for which Sam was accused of complicit ****** by the widow of Casey).

Sam Ingham was appointed, without knowing Britney, without any kind of background check, Reva Goetz just hand-picked him, as apparently she used to do with other cases. How come he was going to refuse to get involved in the conservatorship of no other than a star of the size of Britney? Of course the last thing he was gonna do was to help her to get out of it. Again, he lives off of these cases, I can't stress that enough. He's not paid by the court, he gets the money from Britney.

Then he was the one that deemed her incapable of hiring her own lawyer and of speaking on court, and decided that it wasn't necessary that she appeared on court on any hearing regarding her case, AFTER TALKING TO HER FOR 15 MINUTES at the hospital (according to the reports). He literally met Britney after the lawyer that was hired to defend her was expelled from court, spoke to her and came back telling the judge Britney was basically as capable as a bag of potatoes when it came to the court hearings. No medical exam, no medical report, nor psychological or anything. He is a lawyer, he's not a doctor, he's not a psychologist, he's not a psychiatrist, but his verdict was taken as the word by Reva Goetz. And no one from Jamie's team argued his resolution, of course. And it wasn't like, well, she's not ready now, but let's wait a week or a month to see if she's now capable of doing so. No, just like the conservatorship itself, the order was made permanent without any evaluation scheduled for the future to see her progress, AND with no evidence.

But of course even Sam knew he needed to make it seem legal, so he had to provide a medical report to back his claim, eventually. Why didn't Reva Goetz wait until he brought up the report? That's one of the many questions we would love her to answer, because that is one big irregularity right there. James Long, the doctor that had been treating Britney in 2007, refused to get involved with them and didn't provide any medical report of anything they were claiming (the dementia claim that initially appeared on Jamie's petition, that was NEVER backed-up by evidence, and that was removed from the documents after the conservatorship was made permanent). Then they were supposed to ask Dr. Stephen Marmer which was apparently appointed by the judge, but magically, Sam found Dr. James Spar, who ultimately gave them the proof that they wanted, in record time. Like literally, in a matter of days he supposedly analyzed Britney and agreed with everything Sam and Jamie claimed. Remember they didn't find anything wrong with Britney during the first 5150 after she locked herself in the bathroom. She was released the next day, instead of waiting for the 72 hours those evaluations normally last, because there was nothing wrong with her. But magically, less than a month later, she's taken into this second 5150 hold because she refused to take the prescribed anti-psychotic, though police called it a "planned far in advance operation", and heaven-sent Jamie Spar finds everything wrong with her, or at least the necessary to deem her incapable of taking the most basic decisions. No second opinion, no chance to let her find another doctor, or waiting for the results of the 5150, or even letting her speak for herself to prove she was capable. So that's how they backed up all  of their claims, but they did it retroactively, because by then, all these hearings were already happening without Britney being informed, as the law states. The order of the events was basically 1. All her rights get violated 2. They provide their evidence as to why they violated her rights, after it had already happened. Reva Goetz should've never allowed this to happen in that order.

 

Now, Adam Streisand was the one that was hired to defend Britney, apparently through her old legal team. Reva Goetz expelled him from court and he left without fighting back. Very suspicious, given he's one of the most powerful attorneys in the country, according to his past career. On the other hand, we have Dr. James Spar the one that provided the report that Britney was mentally incapable. Why would he have any interest in playing along with the charade? Well, maybe because he is super pro-conservatorship (and doesn't take much to see he surely benefits in some way with these) and has even made courses and essays about the benefits of the conservatorships. You can see one here.  He also has a guide called "A Lawyer's Guide to Diminishing Capacity and Effective Use of Medical Experts in Contemporaneous and Retrospective Evaluations" that teaches lawyers how to get a general conservatorship. Both of these documents were made in cooperation with no other than Adam Streisand So that lawyer probably wouldn't have done anything to help Britney either.

 

One of the arguments Jamie had in his petition to not notify Britney was that she could tell Sam Lutfi about the "planned conservatorship" and ruin the process. It literally says in court documents that they had this planned long ago. Again, they never tried any other less harsh legal arrangements first to see if that helped her, they orchestrated everything to happen as they wanted it. Literally, as Lou herself would say, the right place, the right people, the right plan.

Sam Lutfi eventually hired another lawyer to defend Britney, after she supposedly had some secret phone calls with Sam's sister or something like that. This second lawyer was obviously expelled from court too, but not only that, he also got a restraining order (like Lutfi's). After that Britney never tried to hire another lawyer again, because she was cut from any contact to any outsider they didn't like, and even if she succeeded she probably assumed the result would be the same.

 

Thing is, none of the people involved in her case were there by coincidence. All the lawyers, doctors, and even the judge were chosen for a reason. So that leads us to ask, how did Jamie know all of this? And that's when we could guess that Lou Taylor came into play, the one that also tried to put Lindsay Lohan under a conservatorship, but of course we still don't have proof for that.

 

Sorry for the long post lol

 

[PokemonSpears]

23 minutes ago, sanpedro said:

The explanation he gave still makes 0 sense. He said that it he wasn’t removed immediately there would be harm and damage done to Britney that she would never recover from. There’s definitely another reason...

* Britney AND her estate.

The estate would get irreparable harm, because she wasn't going to get that money back while on hiatus.

[Scrappy]

16 hours ago, Watch Me Work It said:

 

 

 

Disgusting. I wish I could rage... this is theft. Plain and simple. Deplorable for taking advantage of Britney. Gross abuse of power. Dear lord. How do they sleep at night stealing that much for doing jack nothing?

[illuminatiney]

2 hours ago, Jordan Miller said:

99% of places aren't churches.

There's a lot I'm willing to be flexible on, but being cool with intentional negativity or hate will never be it. 

Jordy scraping Exhale and turning it into a cult confirmed 

[sanpedro]

1 hour ago, PokemonSpears said:

* Britney AND her estate.

The estate would get irreparable harm, because she wasn't going to get that money back while on hiatus.

Okay and Britney and her estate then. What harm that she will never recover from would come from her paying 37 thousand dollars. Even her estate, what harm that her estate would never be able to recover from could $37,000 dollars cause. It makes no sense no matter how we spin it around.

[PokemonSpears]

31 minutes ago, sanpedro said:

Okay and Britney and her estate then. What harm that she will never recover from would come from her paying 37 thousand dollars. Even her estate, what harm that her estate would never be able to recover from could $37,000 dollars cause. It makes no sense no matter how we spin it around.

he wasn't getting $37000, he was getting $400K+ a year since 2014, and it got increased even more in 2018. This is without counting what they're paying to Tri-Star and all the other people that benefits from the conservatorship.

But the specific text says "The conservatorship is engaged in numerous ongoing business activities requiring immediate attention. Substantial detriment, irreparable harm and immediate danger will result to the  conservatee and to her estate if the relief requested herein is not granted on an ex parte basis;"

This document wasn't written by Andrew Wallet, at least the one we see is signed by Judge Brenda Penny, because is the order where she accepts his resignation. You can find it as Exhibit B in the full document. If she took that text from the original petition, then that was probably just a dramatic way to express that it should be approved by the court immediately, because the conservatorship is involved in a lot of businesses and they can't keep having the two conservators involved any longer, if the whole point was to remove Andrew. Now, we don't really know what was going behind the scenes or how did they come up with that agreement to make Andrew Wallet "voluntarily" quit. But the document basically allows Andrew to be removed without problems, and to leave Jamie Spears as sole conservator, with all the powers and responsibilities that it implies. They never go down into detail about what specific harm was gonna happen. So I think it was just a generic way to say, we need this now.

 

[Catalin]

8 hours ago, s&m said:

This is what it is going to happen before they can remove all of those rats from her estate.. If Bessemer is appointed tomorrow, then the conservators of the estate will be Bessemer and Jamie

How many years will it take to remove those rats completely?

[s&m]

27 minutes ago, Catalin said:

How many years will it take to remove those rats completely?

I don’t know! He can, voluntarily, step down tomorrow.. But we know that he’s not gonna do it! But their ideia is good! Appoint Bessemer, trial to remove Jamie, and then remove Jodi!

Let’s not forget our parts to spread our research on Jamie and Lou for them to face prosecution 

[Iiquoricebabe]

Jamie out of the personal conservatorshop and appointing Bessemer for her state is the first step towards her freedom. 

54 minutes ago, s&m said:

I don’t know! He can, voluntarily, step down tomorrow.. But we know that he’s not gonna do it! But their ideia is good! Appoint Bessemer, trial to remove Jamie, and then remove Jodi!

Let’s not forget our parts to spread our research on Jamie and Lou for them to face prosecution 

 

[Iiquoricebabe]

Jamie out of the personal conservatorshop and appointing Bessemer for her state is the first step towards her freedom. 

54 minutes ago, s&m said:

I don’t know! He can, voluntarily, step down tomorrow.. But we know that he’s not gonna do it! But their ideia is good! Appoint Bessemer, trial to remove Jamie, and then remove Jodi!

Let’s not forget our parts to spread our research on Jamie and Lou for them to face prosecution 

 

[Bro96]

Iv never wished this for anyone in my life but who cares. Cant this oppressive ****head father just die and leave his slave daughter ALONE? GURL GO, she about to end up being without a freaking dime with the C-ship joke. This is so sad

[chizwhiz]

3 hours ago, Scrappy said:

Disgusting. I wish I could rage... this is theft. Plain and simple. Deplorable for taking advantage of Britney. Gross abuse of power. Dear lord. How do they sleep at night stealing that much for doing jack nothing?

I'm not defending them but Lou writes in that email that TriStar have been doing Britney's business accounting Inc court finances despite her hiatus and they believe that they're owed time spent. They allude that they're owed the money because the court sessions are taking up their time versus previously her performance accounting.

We know that lou/team used to read this message board years before freebritney emerged but who knows if they account that for 'time spent'

[Cardiff1992]

I still think what's hugely concerning is that Britney clearly has a huge amount of money that's unaccounted for outside of the conservatorship. Do you think Sam Ingham knows about that? She had toured like 4 times and had vegas, albums etc, X factor. But before that she made a killing in her early days. Where is all of that money? Not sure if anyone can shine any light on this?