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When S3X Doesn't Sell


ColdAsFire88

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1 minute ago, breathe_on_me_toxic said:

and toxic and work ***** are good example. but for several things. bot are lyricly brilliant and  the videos are very ****. but within the us they were not nu 1 appart from other places in the world. an both have aged extremely well and  are signature songs.

I can see where some would argue that Work Work :makeup: really went for the s3x sell but kind of failed.

However, Toxic managed to sell s3x and achieve success (Grammy, critical acclaim, its one of Brits best known songs) :mattafact:

I hate to say it but Slumber Party would really fit this equation...like it or not it flopped :tiffanycries:and it was ALL about s3x...

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6 hours ago, ColdAsFire88 said:

I was watching some 80's & 90's music videos and I noticed that some of the artists aren't around anymore. It doesn't diminish their star power or likability,  but I noticed a trend in a lot of the MV's that were coming up on the playlist: S3X :demi:

Since Aaron Carter is doing live **** I felt like this would be a good topic to discuss :mhm: I feel that a lot of pop stars are groomed or pressured into showing more and more skin so they get a reaction and sell more records  :tired:In the end it sometimes backfires. That said, I'd like to shed light on music videos that tried to sell S3X but didn't work out. 

I think a great example of this is Christina Aguileras Not Myself Tonight. It was supposed to be her comeback single or throne reclamation. The song debuted at #23 and fell every week after that :clicktina: I recall some cringing at this MV and even calling her desperate. I thought she looked gorgeous :chrissy:

What are some music videos that you think tried to sell S3X but failed?

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dont know if bionic and nmt are good examples. it failed because it looked  like a gaga rip off. black, latex, *** and its 2010. u obvl think of gaga (plus it was lacking hits and she was over anyways + waited to long). no wonder femme fatale was all white and gold (totally didnt fit the topic and never liked that booklet)

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11 minutes ago, breathe_on_me_toxic said:

dont know if bionic and nmt are good examples. it failed because it looked  like a gaga rip off. black, latex, *** and its 2010. u obvl think of gaga (plus it was lacking hits and she was over anyways + waited to long). no wonder femme fatale was all white and gold (totally didnt fit the topic and never liked that booklet)

But I think thats the thing...Gaga wasn't only selling s3x...she was selling the idea of what society thinks a pop star is and put her genius twist on it. There was art and thought put into her videos and lyrics. Christina just saw s3x and made a BDSM video that mimicked Gaga looks and it failed :tifflmao: I really think if X-Tina focused on another lead single and cut back on the s3x appeal she may have managed less backlash but who knows. 

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17 minutes ago, ColdAsFire88 said:

I can see where some would argue that Work Work :makeup: really went for the s3x sell but kind of failed.

However, Toxic managed to sell s3x and achieve success (Grammy, critical acclaim, its one of Brits best known songs) :mattafact:

I hate to say it but Slumber Party would really fit this equation...like it or not it flopped :tiffanycries:and it was ALL about s3x...

but over all work ***** didnt fail that big on a long run. and i think the point is that so often evergreens that are ahead of their time dont get to no1 in the us. but worldwide they do. and if a woman is concidered to **** in the us she gets ounished for it while sexsoaked lyrics in rap dont seem to be a problem

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6 hours ago, Adriannn said:

Are we forgetting about Ari’s raciest bop? It peaked at 55, dismal for her standards. 
 

 

I totally read “racist bop” and watched the whole video to figure out why it was racist and was getting angry because I couldn’t fin Authenticator racist about the video lol 

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6 minutes ago, Otaner said:

I totally read “racist bop” and watched the whole video to figure out why it was racist and was getting angry because I couldn’t fin Authenticator racist about the video lol 

I was thinking the same lol, wondering how is that song racist. Actually spent some minutes thinking about it like :slowdown_down_cardib_b_cardi_um_fast_confused_what_stare:

Guess it was only a mistake:cheese:

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13 minutes ago, Fenixxx123 said:

I was thinking the same lol, wondering how is that song racist. Actually spent some minutes thinking about it like :slowdown_down_cardib_b_cardi_um_fast_confused_what_stare:

Guess it was only a mistake:cheese:

Lol, my bad, English is not my mother tongue, now you got me thinking if I spelled ‘raciest’ correctly, as in racy lol. 
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15 hours ago, ColdAsFire88 said:

I was watching some 80's & 90's music videos and I noticed that some of the artists aren't around anymore. It doesn't diminish their star power or likability,  but I noticed a trend in a lot of the MV's that were coming up on the playlist: S3X :demi:

Since Aaron Carter is doing live **** I felt like this would be a good topic to discuss :mhm: I feel that a lot of pop stars are groomed or pressured into showing more and more skin so they get a reaction and sell more records  :tired:In the end it sometimes backfires. That said, I'd like to shed light on music videos that tried to sell S3X but didn't work out. 

I think a great example of this is Christina Aguileras Not Myself Tonight. It was supposed to be her comeback single or throne reclamation. The song debuted at #23 and fell every week after that :clicktina: I recall some cringing at this MV and even calling her desperate. I thought she looked gorgeous :chrissy:

What are some music videos that you think tried to sell S3X but failed?

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I think the issue with "Not Myself Tonight" was that Christina had just come off of Back to Basics.  After Stripped era I think people were happy to see a cleaned up and classy Christina and then got a bit of whiplash going to the Bionic album.  If this song and video had come out after Dirrty it would've made more sense and not been so jarring.

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6 hours ago, allthat88 said:

 

 

I think the issue with "Not Myself Tonight" was that Christina had just come off of Back to Basics.  After Stripped era I think people were happy to see a cleaned up and classy Christina and then got a bit of whiplash going to the Bionic album.  If this song and video had come out after Dirrty it would've made more sense and not been so jarring.

Mmmm I think even after B2B people knew that Christina could quickly turn into X-Tina. I think she went overboard and tried to mimic Gaga’s artistic persona but failed miserably. 

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38 minutes ago, BraveNewbie said:

But this was an obvious parody of the genre. She was not trying to sell ***, she was making fun of it.

I recall people not reading it that way. Despite it being a parody of selling *** it dampened her music career. The album was also more pop than her alternative/acoustic stuff. She even tried going country after this :oprah:

 

Also this argues both sides of this song...i think this is why the GP misread the message and thought “oh Jewel is going Pop aka selling ***” at the time i did read it as satire but her branding with the razor company was rather confusing. 

https://slate.com/business/2003/07/jewel-shills-for-schick.html

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