Need help with a debate ASAP

[TakeYourHand]

I’m having a debate with my friend who wants to believe in freebritney but will only look at the facts. He wants to know why she’s looked and sounded like a five year old girl in the past year and if her team was stuck on selling her Britney image and having control of her insta why would they allow her to come across this way. I’m stumped with this one. Help please. Love our girl but she has been off.  Probably more woke than we know but he’s not convinced it’s just an elaborate plan to send cryptic messages lol. 

[MyahJeanSpears]

Just now, TakeYourHand said:

I’m having a debate with my friend who wants to believe in freebritney but will only look at the facts. He wants to know why she’s looked and sounded like a five year old girl in the past year and if her team was stuck on selling her Britney image and having control of her insta why would they allow her to come across this way. I’m stumped with this one. Help please. Love our girl but she has been off.  Probably more woke than we know but he’s not convinced it’s just an elaborate plan to send cryptic messages lol. 

To be honest, who wouldn't be "off" when they've been institutionalized against their will, isolated for over 12 years, forced to take medications to be more docile, micromanaged, and possibly abused in several other ways that none of us are privy to? There is a thread on here with a LONG list of receipts and timeline regarding this case and all of the components. Regarding her current mental state? That's for Britney to answer. But the fact that she and her mother testified that Britney was institutionalized against her will, that Britney's BROTHER says she wants out of the conservatorship, that Britney's ex-boyfriends have stated on record she's not mentally unstable, and that even her current boyfriend is implying that someone needs to be held accountable for her current situation should be more than enough proof that Britney needs to be released from her current situation.

[Danielle1987]

They allow her to come across that way so they can remain in control. If she acts unstable,  they think the people will see the conservatorship as a good thing and think that she actually needs the conservatorship. 

Team Con knows Britney fans will buy anything despite her instagram posts - they don’t have to “sell” anything to fans - they make up most of her sells anyway. They aren’t worried about trying to “sell a Britney image”

BTW, Britney’s insta has always been kind of “off”, but Britney’s insta was never this bad, this “off”, until she was released from that mental facility last year. Britney came out of that mental facility way “worse” than when she went in. Can’t help but think team con wanted this to fit their agenda. 

[OnlyBeyonce]

no one celebrity want appear in that way, of course showing her like a weirdo it's the best way to sell the conservatoriship as something absolutely necessary 

[TakeYourHand]

47 minutes ago, OnlyBeyonce said:

no one celebrity want appear in that way, of course showing her like a weirdo it's the best way to sell the conservatoriship as something absolutely necessary 

But if she has free will and is acting odd doesn’t that mean the cship might be a good thing? Not my opinion but a credible question to ask. 

[alluvion]

8 minutes ago, TakeYourHand said:

But if she has free will and is acting odd doesn’t that mean the cship might be a good thing? Not my opinion but a credible question to ask. 

She doesn't have free will...so, you can't build a theory on a false premise.

[TakeYourHand]

2 minutes ago, alluvion said:

She doesn't have free will...so, you can't build a theory on a false premise.

Free will to post on IG.

[alluvion]

5 minutes ago, TakeYourHand said:

Free will to post on IG.

She's not posting on IG. The posts are made M-F during business hours, exclusively. It's clear that she's forced to make many of the videos, as she looks outside of the camera's frame, clearly being given instructions from someone. Given that she has no cellular or internet access, it's unlikely she even knows what's being posted.

[TakeYourHand]

47 minutes ago, alluvion said:

She's not posting on IG. The posts are made M-F during business hours, exclusively. It's clear that she's forced to make many of the videos, as she looks outside of the camera's frame, clearly being given instructions from someone. Given that she has no cellular or internet access, it's unlikely she even knows what's being posted.

Can you prove that?

[MathCarmignani]

it's probably more on how they make her look on insta, i think in my opinion she has some say on it and thats why she sends us messages and the yellow shirt thing, but she can't post herself because she is not allowed celphones. Also, a good point is:

she looks 'weird and unstable' on her insta. What makes you think that? Because she does fashion shows and poses all the time? People do that all the time, don't we all take a zillion pics so we can post one? Or do the same video 1000 times till we get it right or whatever? She probably does that too and her team twists it to make us take the idea GP already has from 2007 that she is crazy (like the slightest 'weird' thing she does gets blown 100% out of proportion and her team knows it) to show the c-ship is necessary. Also okay, let's pretend she actually looks crazy and unstable on her insta and needs the c-ship (which is used in cases of dementia and people in a choma or very very very old people with like alzheimer) HOW IN THE WORLD could she go on 4 international tours, 3 USA tours, 1 (almost 2) Vegas Residencies, 4 complete album cycles, film a documentary and so on? People can say "meds". Okay, so meds make her STABLE and good to go... So the problem is solved, she is treating herself and the c-ship is not necessary anymore. But it continues. Why is she stable enough to work on show business but not enough to go grab a coffee or vote or have any rights to battle for her kids? THAT is the issue and that's why we scream #FREEBRITNEY 

 

so tell your friend that 

[alluvion]

25 minutes ago, TakeYourHand said:

Can you prove that?

Yes, Lou, Instagram keeps IP address logs. And your team has already admitted that they download and post items from an iCloud account. 

GTFO

[Blackout2006]

12 minutes ago, alluvion said:

GTO

Uhh...rude?

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, TakeYourHand said:

Can you prove that?

She never did a livestream, she never post stories talking like other stars do, she never comments or likes other accounts posts (not even Sam's), she never even posts on weekends. 

Also during the last hearing, someone posted on her account at the same time 

 

Look at this: its a post about Britney and then Lou tagged JL on the comments. Why she didnt tag Britney? Maybe bc Britney doesnt control her account? 

One more thing... Her dad and team has proven time and time again they are control freaks. She tried to mention the cship once and it was cut, someone that worked at the time even talked about that. Do u really think that someone that can only give interviews with pre-approved questions (smt some people talked **** about, including Carson Daly) about her kids, workout, colours, food and **** like that would be allowed to have free  access to internet and millions of people on Instagram? Where she could say whatever she wanted to say? Yeah right. 

[TakeYourHand]

38 minutes ago, alluvion said:

Yes, Lou, Instagram keeps IP address logs. And your team has already admitted that they download and post items from an iCloud account. 

GTFO

You might be slightly overly obsessed if you think I’m part of her team lmao. I’m just a fan that wants clear facts. 

[MonaLisa613]

I would love to know why some people feel that a human being should be completely stripped of all their rights and practically imprisoned just cuz they’re a little odd.

Since when is being odd a crime?? I’m sorry I just don’t understand the mindset of these people. Plus, if I was living under her situation for as long as she has, I’d be a little off too...ANYONE WOULD!!!! People are acting as if she’s some deranged psycho who the world needs to be protected from, it’s RIDICULOUS, she’s Britney Spears not Charles Manson, lol

[rower2222]

Well I think bc the free Britney movement is bringing them in more revenue, this is their way to keep her relevant without her performing. Maybe trolling the situation but not realizing it is causing more of a stir. Idk only thing I could think of. 

[PokemonSpears]

If you only want to "look at the facts", the fact is, if she wants to appear on a video speaking like a 5 year old, 4 year old, or 80 year old, that's her problem. She might as well be acting like that because she's bored, or because she thinks is cute, or for whatever reason.

Tbh, I don't find it that uncomfortable or shocking or worrying as most people in here. I would be worried if she comes up and talks like that and behaves like that in a real conversation like an interview, or if we saw a paparazzi video of her behaving like that on the streets. But we haven't had an interview since 2018, so the only thing we've had are the Instagram posts, and people believe she's like that all the time, but the truth is, we don't know.

I really don't even understand what's your friend's problem or what are we supposed to prove here lol What does it have to do the way Britney speaks with her team having control of her social media, or the #FreeBritney movement, or Britney trying to send messages?

[Danielle1987]

6 hours ago, TakeYourHand said:

But if she has free will and is acting odd doesn’t that mean the cship might be a good thing? Not my opinion but a credible question to ask. 

No. Just because she acts odd doesn’t mean she should have the rights of a child...and doesn’t it show the conservatorship has failed her mental health, since she is acting this way?