Black Lives Matter mural painted in front of Trump Tower

[Shadow.]

22 minutes ago, Rik said:

If you aren’t Black, why do you care that someone is saying Black Lives Matter and organizing things to assist black owned businesses, and ultimately combat anti Blackness and brutality across the police force ? Must we only support social and civil rights movements when it involves Britney Spears’s conservatorship? Really?

because its creating a them/us mentality thus not solving any problems. saying "if you aren't black why do you care about etc" is counter intuitive

[kfitz421]

On 7/9/2020 at 10:38 AM, Illegally EATEN said:

Thank you.

1) Black Lives Matter ignores most black lives. It only exploits black lives that can be used to further an anti-police and anti-white agenda.

2) It ignores that over 20 people, mostly blacks, have been killed during its recent "protests" by protestors, including an 8 year old black girl.

3) It ignores black on black crime, which is the real threat to black Americans and accounts for the vast majority of their wrongful deaths

4) Its leaders have so much as admitted to being a Marxist organization whose goal it is to veer America away from capitalism, under the guise of "pro-black justice".

5) Its members have veered countless times into outright Jew hatred, for example:

-Recent riots in Los Angeles expressly targeted Jewish-themed and Jewish-owned businesses and vandalizing Jewish prayer places (https://clarionproject.org/jews-stand-alongside-civil-rights-frontline/)

-At a recent protest in Washington DC, protestors were chanting the blood libel "Israel (the only Jewish country in the world) you ****** children too" and claiming that Israel is "the puppet master of continents" (we've heard that before- in notsee Germany)

6) It is not controversial to say that a great deal of these "protestors" are outright racist (yes, racist) against whites, promoting conspiracy theories against whites, demonizing whites, etc.

7) Black Lives Matter claims that white people today are responsible for slavery, despite upwards of 95% of whites in America not having a single ancestor who owned a slave

8) As someone so wisely put it (paraphrasing): "we are living in a time where nobody is responsible for what they do now (rioting, shooting bystanders, physically destroying cities, threatening innocent people) but people are somehow responsible for what they didnt do (aka some white people owning slaves 200-400 years ago)

9) "Institutional racism" was put to rest in America in the 60s. To claim America and Americans are currently institutionally or systematically racist when some of the most successful and popular entertainers, some of the most successful lawyers and businessmen, and plenty of politicians (including one former 8-year president) are black, is nothing short of absurd. Yes, I said it.

10) Yes, there are Americans who are are racist. There are people in every single country and continent who are racist- black, white, brown, tan, yellow, red, etc. Perfection is a concept that does not exist; the world as a whole can never be perfect, since perfection is not part of human nature.

The best anyone can do is to promote understanding through peaceful means, as well as personal responsibility, and to always personally strive to do better and help others do better.

By demonizing others, destroying cities, rioting, looting, shooting other innocent people, and so on only works to cause more division and hatred. It does NOTHING to combat actual racism and to help people understand, it only furthers most people away.

11) Black Lives Matter is a fraudulent organization which hides behind an uncontroversial title (which implies that people's lives matter- wow, so brave to say) while actively contradicting that message by causing more wrongful deaths and entirely ignoring most black lives and how they are affected by the actions of their fraudulent organization.

12) The message "black lives matter", however, is an honorable one, in contrast to the organization of the same name. Since there are some people (far fewer than BLM would have you believe) who believe black lives are worth less, just as there are people who believe white lives are worth less, it is important to expose them to thoughtful progress and to try to bring as many people together as possible. All of which BLM is abhorrently, actively doing the opposite of, while encouraging racism against whites and hatred of America as a whole.

Ok well to your point, Israel IS bombing Palestine and quite frankly is committing genocide against the Palestinian people at this very moment, so if you’re going to throw around the term “black on black crime” lets realize that the Israeli government are killing off brown people (and no one cares because they are brown). Just because they are jewish does not absolve them from what the “Not Sees” did to them in the 1930s-1940s. 
 

also - Black on Black crime isn’t a thing. Those deaths are not racially motivated as being ******** by the police usually is racially motivated (something that has been happening for 100s of years in the US). You might have to get some info from a book and not Tucker Carlson 

[Illegally EATEN]

2 hours ago, kfitz421 said:

Ok well to your point, Israel IS bombing Palestine and quite frankly is committing genocide against the Palestinian people at this very moment, so if you’re going to throw around the term “black on black crime” lets realize that the Israeli government are killing off brown people (and no one cares because they are brown). Just because they are jewish does not absolve them from what the “Not Sees” did to them in the 1930s-1940s. 
 

also - Black on Black crime isn’t a thing. Those deaths are not racially motivated as being ******** by the police usually is racially motivated (something that has been happening for 100s of years in the US). You might have to get some info from a book and not Tucker Carlson 

You are tragically misinformed. Before you throw around words like "genocide" and "killing off brown people", take a look at the graph below:

I implore you to visit here are see for yourself the situation on the ground first hand. It is starkly different from what youre writing.

Most black people killed by police are not killed out of "racial motivation". If you can back up that statement with clear, concise data and facts then please do, otherwise I dont see the point in posting such statements.

A few more illustrations to top it off:

[Spicechinodiva]

When will people realize people asked Jordan to leave politics out, he was told that they know he is a Democrat and was warned that most would leave and most did.

 

Thet left cos they knew people weren't gonna like them when it was known they wrre conservatives, they complained about threats and stuff and had Nothing to protect them, they keft cos of a creators favouritism towards people that thought liked him. 

 

Most just left cos their opinions weren't respected i.e. siding with piers on the markle debate. 

 

He was asked and warned, and did it anyway. 

[rik]

3 hours ago, kfitz421 said:

Ok well to your point, Israel IS bombing Palestine and quite frankly is committing genocide against the Palestinian people at this very moment, so if you’re going to throw around the term “black on black crime” lets realize that the Israeli government are killing off brown people (and no one cares because they are brown). Just because they are jewish does not absolve them from what the “Not Sees” did to them in the 1930s-1940s. 
 

also - Black on Black crime isn’t a thing. Those deaths are not racially motivated as being ******** by the police usually is racially motivated (something that has been happening for 100s of years in the US). You might have to get some info from a book and not Tucker Carlson 

Thank you ^^^ finally the truth 

@Illegally EATEN are you using Instagram pages for stats lol

[skinnypotato]

what about white lifes matter?

[Stefani]

I thought this was BreatheHeavy.com, not a politics forum.

[MikeHunt]

1 minute ago, Stefani said:

I thought this was BreatheHeavy.com, not a politics forum.

Jordan created a politics section like 2 years ago or so, but I think he stopped mainpaging threads because they can get super divisive. 

[Illegally EATEN]

8 minutes ago, Rik said:

Thank you ^^^ finally the truth 

@Illegally EATEN are you using Instagram pages for stats lol

Youre free to corroborate the stats and numbers mentioned using any other source. Theyre hard facts.

Ive come across these stats countless times. In the screenshots I posted they are simply displayed in a simple, easy to understand fashion, hence why I saved them and posted them here.

[rik]

19 minutes ago, skinnypotato said:

what about white lifes matter?

said the colonists who got Indigenous people sick, forced them out of their homes and cultures and destroyed various opportunities that could lead to potential success and longevity of culture and language. Same with Black people, enslaved and forced to build the very infrastructure Americans walk on while being shot up in the streets and their own living rooms.

Must white people always oppress themselves? did anyone say white lives DONT matter? Would you come to a breast cancer fundraiser and ask what about lung cancer donations? Stop

[ICouldntThinkOfOne]

Why is this two year old thread being bumped by individuals outraged that America has a racism problem and Israel engaged in genocide.

[rik]

4 minutes ago, ICouldntThinkOfOne said:

Why is this two year old thread being bumped by individuals outraged that America has a racism problem and Israel engaged in genocide.

it was bumped by someone who doesn’t agree with BLM I’m pretty sure 

[kfitz421]

10 hours ago, Illegally EATEN said:

You are tragically misinformed. Before you throw around words like "genocide" and "killing off brown people", take a look at the graph below:

I implore you to visit here are see for yourself the situation on the ground first hand. It is starkly different from what youre writing.

Most black people killed by police are not killed out of "racial motivation". If you can back up that statement with clear, concise data and facts then please do, otherwise I dont see the point in posting such statements.

A few more illustrations to top it off:

If only I had a graph and some tweets!! UGH 😩 

[The Greatest Show]

Ooh is that what they did with the 60 million $ in donations that went "missing" 

Edited April 20, 2022 by The Greatest Show

[Illegally EATEN]

6 hours ago, kfitz421 said:

If only I had a graph and some tweets!! UGH 😩 

Option 1: try to counter the points made and the data presented with hard facts

Option 2: criticize them for being screenshots 

16 hours ago, Illegally EATEN said:

Youre free to corroborate the stats and numbers mentioned using any other source. Theyre hard facts.

Ive come across these stats countless times. In the screenshots I posted they are simply displayed in a simple, easy to understand fashion, hence why I saved them and posted them here.

 

[kissit]

On 7/9/2020 at 10:38 AM, Illegally EATEN said:

Thank you.

1) Black Lives Matter ignores most black lives. It only exploits black lives that can be used to further an anti-police and anti-white agenda.

2) It ignores that over 20 people, mostly blacks, have been killed during its recent "protests" by protestors, including an 8 year old black girl.

3) It ignores black on black crime, which is the real threat to black Americans and accounts for the vast majority of their wrongful deaths

4) Its leaders have so much as admitted to being a Marxist organization whose goal it is to veer America away from capitalism, under the guise of "pro-black justice".

5) Its members have veered countless times into outright Jew hatred, for example:

-Recent riots in Los Angeles expressly targeted Jewish-themed and Jewish-owned businesses and vandalizing Jewish prayer places (https://clarionproject.org/jews-stand-alongside-civil-rights-frontline/)

-At a recent protest in Washington DC, protestors were chanting the blood libel "Israel (the only Jewish country in the world) you ****** children too" and claiming that Israel is "the puppet master of continents" (we've heard that before- in notsee Germany)

6) It is not controversial to say that a great deal of these "protestors" are outright racist (yes, racist) against whites, promoting conspiracy theories against whites, demonizing whites, etc.

7) Black Lives Matter claims that white people today are responsible for slavery, despite upwards of 95% of whites in America not having a single ancestor who owned a slave

8) As someone so wisely put it (paraphrasing): "we are living in a time where nobody is responsible for what they do now (rioting, shooting bystanders, physically destroying cities, threatening innocent people) but people are somehow responsible for what they didnt do (aka some white people owning slaves 200-400 years ago)

9) "Institutional racism" was put to rest in America in the 60s. To claim America and Americans are currently institutionally or systematically racist when some of the most successful and popular entertainers, some of the most successful lawyers and businessmen, and plenty of politicians (including one former 8-year president) are black, is nothing short of absurd. Yes, I said it.

10) Yes, there are Americans who are are racist. There are people in every single country and continent who are racist- black, white, brown, tan, yellow, red, etc. Perfection is a concept that does not exist; the world as a whole can never be perfect, since perfection is not part of human nature.

The best anyone can do is to promote understanding through peaceful means, as well as personal responsibility, and to always personally strive to do better and help others do better.

By demonizing others, destroying cities, rioting, looting, shooting other innocent people, and so on only works to cause more division and hatred. It does NOTHING to combat actual racism and to help people understand, it only furthers most people away.

11) Black Lives Matter is a fraudulent organization which hides behind an uncontroversial title (which implies that people's lives matter- wow, so brave to say) while actively contradicting that message by causing more wrongful deaths and entirely ignoring most black lives and how they are affected by the actions of their fraudulent organization.

12) The message "black lives matter", however, is an honorable one, in contrast to the organization of the same name. Since there are some people (far fewer than BLM would have you believe) who believe black lives are worth less, just as there are people who believe white lives are worth less, it is important to expose them to thoughtful progress and to try to bring as many people together as possible. All of which BLM is abhorrently, actively doing the opposite of, while encouraging racism against whites and hatred of America as a whole.

this is embarrassing. get off this forum, show face, and have conversations like this in public. i loooove britney, but comments like this turns me off to this forum.

[devilsadvocate]

21 hours ago, Illegally EATEN said:

You are tragically misinformed. Before you throw around words like "genocide" and "killing off brown people", take a look at the graph below:

I implore you to visit here are see for yourself the situation on the ground first hand. It is starkly different from what youre writing.

Most black people killed by police are not killed out of "racial motivation". If you can back up that statement with clear, concise data and facts then please do, otherwise I dont see the point in posting such statements.

A few more illustrations to top it off:

This has many inaccuracies … peace

[Illegally EATEN]

45 minutes ago, devilsadvocate said:

This has many inaccuracies … peace

"This has many inaccuracies" without pointing out a single inaccuracy or providing genuine evidence...