colormefresh Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Just now, Stifler's Mom said: lmao, are you? ever? 2 Link to comment
icybaby Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, rik said: you're absolutely correct, we don't know anything and its kind of clear at this point that she has a mental illness or is at least vulnerable to something/certain environments. its nothing she should be ashamed of. i just feel as though the c-ship (which i do agree saved her life and was necessary at one point in time) was implemented at a different point in her life and at a time when mental health had a greater stigma and when there was less knowledge surrounding how to deal with it. For that reason, I think she deserves to see what life is like as a full fledged adult outside of the c-ship if she so pleases. Again, as you said no one knows what the diagnosis is which makes it tough On a personal note, I think if she is that ill she should stop being forced to work if that is what is happening here. She has also expressed that she does not want to be under these constraints anymore and for that reason, whether it is for the better or worse, I don't think a mentally ill person should be coerced into something against their will. Besides, its not like ending the c-ship means that she wouldn't be open to other forms of therapy or professional help. so many people around the world live with mental illnesses and c-ships are not necessary; these people include famous celebs like britney, thereby diverging against the whole financial/lawsuit protection argument. i agree with u about other forms of therapy. I think her father used her situation when she was loosing custody of her kids and she agreed cause she wasn't fully understanding that cship means and also wanted to see her kids. So now living in this for 11 years she finally fed up of this situation. She also didn't get custody of her kids back and until she is in cship she never will. I think so. This is why she needs that freedom. To have at least joint custody of her sons how big is that wish for a mother. She can have mental problems but that doesn't mean she can't work on them esp when she has such a money. But i guess her father's approach is to spend as less money as he can on her health medicating her and then making her work so she can not have time for any other things. Remember she was in vegas kids were around and now they r not. Like it was agreement and then she broke it by not wanting to do it she was punished by seeing them less. 3 Link to comment
Meaner03 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, smouthwick said: Conservatorships entitle those in charge to engage in pervasive overreach and intrusion into the lives of their wards. I am not surprised that Jamie is filing now in three states. What's most interesting and hopeful for Britney is that her case is shining a light into the dark and secretive corners of the practices of Conservatorships in general. I hope her freedom isn't sacrificed in the process. Any public attention to the details of her case isn't just prying into her privacy. It's exposing the overreach allowed by these courts, which operate in secrecy. Stay strong, Britney! D you know if to extend the cship to other states he needs the court approval from the judge or is this something he just has to file to those court and he will be granted the extension due to the new law called . Based on what we read of she stay to another state for 6 months this one become the home state of the cship, my fear is that they take her to Florida for example, claiming it is for her best interest for her to stay due to the press/paparazzi pressure for example , when comes september whatever the outcome is, they file an objection to what the court decide to win time and by the end of the year the cship is legally moved to another state where may be they will have more guarantee about the judge and court like they seemed to have in the past with Goetz . I know it might sound crazy, but the best lawyers are the one who can find the loopholes that they can get you out of a compromising situation, and if this is a possibility for them to get away from Brenda's investigation and pressure they will at least try . 4 Link to comment
smouthwick Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Goneforever said: No you are confusing what's best for the person and keeping them alive. Misery is not better than uncertainty. Rehabs have open doors, you can leave whenever you want. You'd think she'd have that freedom but Britney has had her fundamental rights to freedom removed. She is now literally reduced to the status of a child with "parents" (parens patriae) in control. Parental rights over her are exercised through the courts and her "parents" are the court, lawyers, and a conservator. Think about that and how wrong it is for people's rights to be removed with disregard when it comes to their true abilities. Britney isn't in a coma. This system can be artificially imposed upon ANYONE if the people working these courts are seeking financial gain. They have ultimate control over every part of what happens to you if you should be subjected to this kind of court proceeding. The result sometimes is merciless exploitation of an innocent person. Let's hope that isn't true for Britney. She's a public figure with a spotlight on her. There are people all over the country unfairly deprived of fundamental rights with no one fighting for them. The good news is that Britney's case will help shine the light on the Draconian practices when it comes to Conservatorship and Guardianship in general throughout the country. This "dirty little secret" corner of the law is AMERIKA performing at it's best. 5 Link to comment
smouthwick Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, Meaner03 said: D you know if to extend the cship to other states he needs the court approval from the judge or is this something he just has to file to those court and he will be granted the extension due to the new law called . Based on what we read of she stay to another state for 6 months this one become the home state of the cship, my fear is that they take her to Florida for example, claiming it is for her best interest for her to stay due to the press/paparazzi pressure for example , when comes september whatever the outcome is, they file an objection to what the court decide to win time and by the end of the year the cship is legally moved to another state where may be they will have more guarantee about the judge and court like they seemed to have in the past with Goetz . I know it might sound crazy, but the best lawyers are the one who can find the loopholes that they can get you out of a compromising situation, and if this is a possibility for them to get away from Brenda's investigation and pressure they will at least try . He (or his attorney) would need to petition either this court or all of them. I'm not exactly sure how it would work, but courts are now more connected state to state by the 2007 Uniform Law Commission laws to ease actions from one state to another. So yes, a petition to the court (or courts) would have to be a requirement. What you are saying is scary. Could they just move her to one of the three states if one state sets her free? Hadn't though of that. 4 Link to comment
smouthwick Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Just now, smouthwick said: He (or his attorney) would need to petition either this court or all of them. I'm not exactly sure how it would work, but courts are now more connected state to state by the 2007 Uniform Law Commission laws to ease actions from one state to another. So yes, a petition to the court (or courts) would have to be a requirement. Link to comment
smouthwick Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, smouthwick said: He would need to petition either this court or all of them. I'm not exactly sure how the logistics work, but courts are now more connected state to state by the 2007 Uniform Law Commission laws to ease actions from one state to another. So yes, a petition to the court (or courts) would have to be a requirement. Link to comment
Stifler's Mom Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, smouthwick said: He would need to petition either this court or all of them. I'm not exactly sure how it would work, but courts are now more connected state to state by the 2007 Uniform Law Commission laws to ease actions from one state to another. So yes, a petition to the court (or courts) would have to be a requirement. this means Jamie likely has no chance by now, right? Link to comment
smouthwick Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, Stifler's Mom said: Madonna is living in Portugal, she should join her She can't flee, unfortunately. She'd be tracked down by order of the court. Usually wards like Britney aren't entitled to carry IDs or Passports 3 Link to comment
Stifler's Mom Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 https://bopsandbangers.com/2019/05/23/larry-rudolph-wants-out-as-britney-spears-manager/ Larry wants to resign 5 Link to comment
Meaner03 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, smouthwick said: He (or his attorney) would need to petition either this court or all of them. I'm not exactly sure how it would work, but courts are now more connected state to state by the 2007 Uniform Law Commission laws to ease actions from one state to another. So yes, a petition to the court (or courts) would have to be a requirement. What you are saying is scary. Could they just move her to one of the three states if one state sets her free? Hadn't though of that. From what i see Florida, Nebraska and New York have not adopted the law called UAGPPIA , which mean he would need to re-file for a cship in those state to be granted Britney's conservator there . But here what seems to be a loophole when it comes to other states who adopted the law : The “home state” is the state where the proposed conservatee has been physically present for at least 6 consecutive months immediately before the petition is filed. Temporary absences are excused. This state will have primary jurisdiction over a conservatorship petition. If this investigation is dragged and they win time , if they move her now... they could change the home state of the cship and see it being moved to another state of their choice . Notice how they picked states where she at least have assets or spend times a lot . They did not make this move 1 week after the Judge confirmed the 730 evaluation expert will investigate all the cship, including the contracts they signed like the one for the new Vegas residency out of nowhere, they have an idea and a plan . I hope the judges and Lynn's team can see through it 5 Link to comment
Meaner03 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stifler's Mom said: https://bopsandbangers.com/2019/05/23/larry-rudolph-wants-out-as-britney-spears-manager/ Larry wants to resign This investigation has them all shook and scared . Laurence you stay there so we can take you all down at the same time, you resigning won't make you erase whatever happened during those 11 years, same goes to the homophobe money giver Andrew Wallet . 5 Link to comment
Cappycorn87 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Stifler's Mom said: https://bopsandbangers.com/2019/05/23/larry-rudolph-wants-out-as-britney-spears-manager/ Larry wants to resign Its funny watching her team commit all these drastic moves as of late 4 Link to comment
smouthwick Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stifler's Mom said: this means Jamie likely has no chance by now, right? To be honest I've never heard of a person being conserved in three states. Usually it's one state. 5 Link to comment
Popular Post really really cool guy Posted May 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 Why isn't anybody talking about ANDREW WALLET anymore? He needs to be exposed too, not only Jamie and Lou. He was co-conservartor of Britney for 10+ years and abruptly resigned after a huge raise. That needs to be spread too... 18 Link to comment
smouthwick Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Meaner03 said: From what i see Florida, Nebraska and New York have not adopted the law called UAGPPIA , which mean he would need to re-file for a cship in those state to be granted Britney's conservator there . But here what seems to be a loophole when it comes to other states who adopted the law : The “home state” is the state where the proposed conservatee has been physically present for at least 6 consecutive months immediately before the petition is filed. Temporary absences are excused. This state will have primary jurisdiction over a conservatorship petition. If this investigation is dragged and they win time , if they move her now... they could change the home state of the cship and see it being moved to another state of their choice . Notice how they picked states where she at least have assets or spend times a lot . They did not make this move 1 week after the Judge confirmed the 730 evaluation expert will investigate all the cship, including the contracts they signed like the one for the new Vegas residency out of nowhere, they have an idea and a plan . I hope the judges and Lynn's team can see through it I agree. I have never heard of one person conserved in three states. Usually the conservatorship is moved from one state to another. As for as I know, UUGPPIA was created only to ease transfers from one state to another--not to allow somebody to petition in three states at once. 7 Link to comment
Cappycorn87 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Meaner03 said: This investigation has them all shook and scared . Laurence you stay there so we can take you all down at the same time, you resigning won't make you erase whatever happened during those 11 years, same goes to the homophobe money giver Andrew Wallet . I'm sure Lynn and her lawyer been on it, why else is her father doing this 7 Link to comment
colormefresh Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stifler's Mom said: https://bopsandbangers.com/2019/05/23/larry-rudolph-wants-out-as-britney-spears-manager/ Larry wants to resign 6 Link to comment
Leader Popular Post Jordan Miller Posted May 23, 2019 Leader Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, Stifler's Mom said: https://bopsandbangers.com/2019/05/23/larry-rudolph-wants-out-as-britney-spears-manager/ Larry wants to resign I'm coming y'all 14 Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Link to comment
b42ad Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, colormefresh said: The first thing the fans and Larry have both wanted to happen. I support his desire to GTFO 6 Link to comment
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