Popular Post ILikeChillinWithYou Posted May 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2019 You guys, all this internal fighting in this thread is going to get us nowhere. Why are we discussing things from 2007 when we already know it was bad enough? What we should be focusing on is making sure that 2007 is not repeated. Concentrate on the matter at hand and stop fighting with each other We we may have different opinions but remember, we belong to the same fan base 10 Link to comment
Popular Post Valerie Cherish Posted May 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2019 10 hours ago, zxcvb said: Here's the problem with that night (which I didn't get at the time): The letter also slams the commissioner who passed the conservatorship, saying he did so before he received an evaluation from Cedars Sinai hospital, where Spears was taken after apparently suffering breakdown a year ago. “Commissioner Gordon… was quick to deny you all of your visitation rights, even before Cedars issued its evaluation that you were not under the influence of illegal ***** or alcohol. Commissioner Gordon clearly is biased against you…Your case will continue to spiral until they have denied you your freedom, your children and your assets.” https://www.nme.com/news/music/britney-spears-112-1313209 I want Britney to be successful. But I'm sorry; from this point forward can Britney really have a fanbase until the truths of Jamie Lou and Larry and the lawyers/courts involved are revealed?? Again, Wallet and co said her finances were a total mess but this runs counter to what the experienced attorney Adam Streisand said in 2008: "Streisand, who said he was referred to the singer by her custody lawyers at Trope and Trope, had also questioned the expertise of court-appointed co-conservator Andrew Wallet, claiming that he didn't have the expertise to handle the estate or the trust, given that Britney's estate is worth $40 million, encompasses 15 separate entities and is in the middle of a $17 million audit. Streisand had asked the court to instead name Northern Trust Bank and Spears' business manager Howard Grossman as co-conservators." https://www.mtv.com/news/1580917/britney-spears-lawyer-ejected-from-courtroom-after-judge-doesnt-recognize-him-as-her-counsel/ Sam Ingham, the court-appointed investigator who spoke with Britney for 15 minutes on Sunday, told the court that the singer "did not understand" the nature of the proceedings and the impact the process could have on her affairs. "She lacks the capacity to retain direct counsel," he told the court. Streisand responded, "I am her lawyer." Commissioner Reva Goetz disagreed and did not recognize him as Spears' attorney, ejecting him from the courtroom. But as Streisand said in 2016 to the NYTimes: "It was clear to me that she seemed a bit agitated," Mr. Streisand told the NY Times. "But my sense was that she did have the capacity to pick a lawyer and that she could make a rational decision. Britney wanted to oppose the conservatorship. But she was also extremely worried about her kids and seemed to understand that the best thing to do to see her kids was to accept it." https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/arts/music/is-britney-spears-ready-to-stand-on-her-own.html Did Jaime ever use the custody of Britney's kids as leverage?? The Truth MUST come out. Also there is Jenny Eliscu on her 2008 Rolling Stone interview with Britney: "Anyway, I had done some preliminary research into it, but I was not yet aware how hard Britney had tried to fight it initially and why. As my research progressed, it started to become clear to me that this might not be something that should still be in place. Because it is designed, ideally, to protect people who are seriously ill. We’re talking about people who are non compos mentis, according to the lawyers I consulted. Or they’re in a vegetative state. Or they’re just so old that they can’t take care of themselves anymore. But Britney? It was making less and less sense as time went on." https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/behind-the-britney-story-a-conversation-with-writer-jenny-eliscu-68829/ The only 'positive' aspect I'm willing to admit about the conservatorship is that Britney certainly doesn't overspend on anything. But maybe she could have learned without the conservatorship as time went on. i don't understand why people think a mental break is grounds for losing your rights for life! i have some dumb friends who think because she shaved her head she is crazy for life. lol ppl r so basic. what she went thru was insane, esp after having two kids, the person she was divorcing was taking her kids (and using her money to pay attorneys to get that result), was alone and facing scrutiny in public—most people would have blown their brains out. everyone breaks from time-to-time, esp if u r living like that—people depending on you, the world watching you 15 Link to comment
BSfemme Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ItShouldBeOffiTunes said: i was about to post this. it's soooo disgusting 8 Link to comment
Winter _90 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, BethanyJerome said: Always ready to throw Britney under the bus, she's not even ashamed to admit it This was a big alert and everything was so obvious...Cheap clothes ,cheap show, bad products.It was a disaster everything they did and this was a great warning.They have destroyed her personal and professional life and they are not ashamed. 8 Link to comment
BSfemme Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 new blind item, sorry if AP https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2019/05/blind-item-6_20.html Look for the permanent A list "singer" to be out and about all the time over the next few weeks to show she is not being held captive. The thing is though, each excursion is heavily regulated and monitored and will end in a second if anything out of the ordinary occurs. 8 Link to comment
falka Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, --- said: are you guys really pretending like peoples' teams don't call the paparazzi? Are U pretending that folks from restaurants don't do it? Link to comment
--- Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, falka said: Are U pretending that folks from restaurants don't do it? no Link to comment
HerPerogative Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I knew the media was dirty...but watching them twist things when it comes to a celeb like Britney makes me not trust anything that comes from them, especially politics. Not to derail thread, but this should open our eyes at how much they actually misinform the GP for the almighty dollar and how we should always research from different places before forming an opinion. So sad how they are making people sheep 8 Link to comment
zxcvb Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 8 hours ago, HerPerogative said: I can't with some of y'all arguing back and forth like Britney's 2007/8 issues were so black and white. The truth is somewhere on the middle. Britney was an extremely hot mess back then. She was clearly on something. Didn't shower. Up all hours of the night. Crying on sidewalks. Bringing paps into her home. Not showing up for court hearings for her kids. I can go on. Cship probably DID save her at the time. However, in hindsight, this was a scary time period for celebrities. Social media was barely getting on the ground. We were not used to seeing celebs the way we do now. Unfiltered and raw. It was a shock to the public especially since Heath Ledger, Amy Winhouse, Anna Nicole Smith...so many celebs were dying with shady ppl around them. **** yeah we were all worried about Brit so *** whoever said wasn't a true fan because we felt she needed intervention AT THE TIME. She's not some superhuman goddess, Stan's. Hate to break it to ya. Stop putting her on this pedestl that she was somehow different from the celebs above who succumbed to addictions and evil ppl around them in the end. Whether or not it's mental Illness, we cannot be sure unless we hear it from Britney herself. HOWEVER, the benefits of the Cship ended years ago. She is clearly a capable human being and I believe she has grown from her experiences and truly just wants to be a mom and maybe make music here and there. But let's pretend for a moment that she wants the Cship, it's still a gross misuse of a law meant to protect elderly and disabled. Not meant to protect you from lawsuits or whatever people are saying she needs it for now. It needs to end, period. Britney has more than enough money to hire her own people to handle her estate and her medical needs. Like you said, the truth lies somewhere in the middle: "A Superior Court commissioner gave Britney Spears’ father the power to fire the singer’s business manager, according to documents released Friday. Commissioner Reva Goetz also ordered Howard Grossman to turn over “all documents, records and assets relating to Britney Spears” to James Spears, who is the court-appointed conservator of his daughter and her estate. Lynne Spears told the court that Lutfi had treated her daughter like a hostage in her own home, drugged her and took over her finances. “Sam told me, ‘You’d better learn that I control everything,”’ Lynne Spears wrote in a declaration filed with the court. “’I control Howard Grossman, Britney’s business manager. I control her attorneys and the security guards at the gate. They don’t listen to Britney, they listen to me.”’ Spears’ parents went to court Thursday after saying they feared their daughter’s life was at risk after she was released from a hospital psychiatric ward on Wednesday." https://www.ocregister.com/2008/02/08/court-gives-britney-spears-dad-the-power-to-fire-her-business-manager/ I'm NOT defending Sam Lufti whatsoever, BUT... "Los Angeles police say they are looking into allegations that someone drugged Britney Spears but have not decided whether to open a formal investigation. Police Capt. Kyle Jackon said in a statement Wednesday that the allegations “are being considered” by the Robbery-Homicide unit to determine if laws have been violated. Jackson says no suspect has been identified. Spears’ mother claimed in recent court papers that the pop star’s sometime companion Sam Lutfi drugged Spears and tried to take control of her life. Those claims led to a restraining order against Lutfi. Spears is currently under a court-ordered conservatorship." https://www.ocregister.com/2008/02/27/la-police-investigating-whether-britney-spears-was-drugged/ WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THIS (informal) POLICE INVESTIGATION? "Spears’ public re-emergence came after her father fought for control of the pop star and her estate, her frequent companion was ordered to stay away from her, and her mother vividly described her daughter’s fragile state, **** use and the strange behavior that led to her hospitalization." https://www.ocregister.com/2008/02/06/britney-spears-parents-say-her-life-is-at-risk/ Yet, according lawyer Jon Eardley, Cedars Sinai evaluation of Britney was that she was not under the influence that night... "Commissioner Gordon… was quick to deny you all of your visitation rights, even before Cedars issued its evaluation that you were not under the influence of illegal ***** or alcohol. " https://www.nme.com/news/music/britney-spears-112-1313209 And, as we know, Jamie then went 'rogue' on Lynne, according to that May 2008 email about him keeping her medical information away from her. The fact remains that Jamie (as well as lawyers, managers etc...) must be thoroughly investigated. 6 Link to comment
GimmeBritney320 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Winter _90 said: This was a big alert and everything was so obvious...Cheap clothes ,cheap show, bad products.It was a disaster everything they did and this was a great warning.They have destroyed her personal and professional life and they are not ashamed. This makes me so mad and should make all of us angry...they have not only taken advantage of Britney herself...but exploited our love for her because they know how much we love her we'll accept whatever poor quality they throw our way. 7 Link to comment
Mr_Steven_Spears Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 It’s obvious her team are only letting her go out and about to shut us up. So what they expect us to leave this whole motion and continue to put our money in Lou, Larry and Jamie’s pockets They properly are already planning another Vegas show right now, expecting this to make her have a other comeback pumped full of ***** no way. Until that team is exposed for the leeches they are we should not give them another dime. The media is still making it seem that she’s unstable just shows what money can buy and that’s headlines fitting the narrative they want out there. 9 Link to comment
Leader Jordan Miller Posted May 21, 2019 Leader Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ItShouldBeOffiTunes said: Wowwww 4 Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Link to comment
Popular Post Mr_Steven_Spears Posted May 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2019 Is there anyway way anyone can send all this information to the courthouse? 10 Link to comment
Mr_Steven_Spears Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, BethanyJerome said: Funny how the new trip to In-N-Out was done deliberately to falsify what the paralegal said about her driving without a bodyguard in the car was a "big no-no" and "breaking the rules" back in January. "SEE? She was driving to In-N-Out again and nothing happened! Nobody's angry! She's free to do as she pleases!" I think the Larry comments were also a plan to generate buzz. Make a scandalous statement, have people talking, then take it back and kickstart the comeback narrative of "proving you wrong". It's all very schemed and calculated. High chances they're going to re-announce Vegas soon, they probably see many people are already taking the bait with these recent photo-ops He properly has planned all of this the way the narrative is going on the media. 2 Link to comment
BKSTYL3 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ItShouldBeOffiTunes said: LOU TAYLOR, 53CEO, Tri Star Sports and Entertainment Group “We got dubbed the ‘Queens of Cash’ in Vegas,” says Taylor, whose Tri Star group helped drive the pop-star residency boom in Las Vegas, thanks to clients Britney Spears and Jennifer Lopez. (They were not paid in paper currency.) By the time Lopez’s three-year run at Planet Hollywood’s Zappos Theater wrapped last September, it had grossed $102 million, according to Billboard Boxscore. The financial adviser, who has since guided clients including Florida Georgia Line to Vegas for limited bookings, credits Spears, who launched her Planet Hollywood run in 2013, as the trendsetter in the city’s residency renaissance. “Had it been a disaster, we’d have been like, ‘Well, Britney wanted to do it...,’ but because it’s unbelievably successful, we shifted culture in Vegas,” says Taylor. “The risk and reward belongs to Britney, but we were the first ones to take that shot.” https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8503689/2019-top-business-managers-list 5 Link to comment
colormefresh Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, ItShouldBeOffiTunes said: She better get fired. 6 Link to comment
MadameFreedom Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, HerPerogative said: I knew the media was dirty...but watching them twist things when it comes to a celeb like Britney makes me not trust anything that comes from them, especially politics. Not to derail thread, but this should open our eyes at how much they actually misinform the GP for the almighty dollar and how we should always research from different places before forming an opinion. So sad how they are making people sheep Exactly! Like same in MJ case how they pushed narrative that he is crazy and ********* how Bashir manipulated his document or how no media reported how James in Leaving Neverland said that he was ******** in the train station and it all happened till 1992 when train station was not built until 1994 when MJ married Lisa Marie Presley. I highly recommend this article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/610258/amp The most shameful episode in Journalistic History how they reported MJ 2005 trial how they made him guilty before court decision. Same for policy how they are manipulate GP. 1 Link to comment
Cappycorn87 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mr_Steven_Spears said: It’s obvious her team are only letting her go out and about to shut us up. So what they expect us to leave this whole motion and continue to put our money in Lou, Larry and Jamie’s pockets They properly are already planning another Vegas show right now, expecting this to make her have a other comeback pumped full of ***** no way. Until that team is exposed for the leeches they are we should not give them another dime. The media is still making it seem that she’s unstable just shows what money can buy and that’s headlines fitting the narrative they want out there. The conservatorship is being investigated 2 Link to comment
rawbrit Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, DayvinDazone said: American Horror Story: Conservatorship lord, it actually fits 4 Link to comment
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