briprin1 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, David Rose said: Do they really think fans are gonna come watch her perform if the c-ship is still in place? I wouldn't even consider it. I'm honestly curious as to what percentage of us will still be willing to support her music and shows if it doesn't end. the fans that aren't in the loop, and General public, probably a lot less ticket sells, but i'm sure they would still be able to turn a profit enough to line their pockets with unfortunately... Link to comment
Herumbra Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 it might even be 'i'm free' because she left the mental health place, nothing big. But i'm so happy for her Link to comment
David Rose Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Halaut17 said: the fans that aren't in the loop, and General public, probably a lot less ticket sells, but i'm sure they would still be able to turn a profit enough to line their pockets with unfortunately... I feel that way too and it pisses me off to no end. 1 Link to comment
ubritney Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 That video is also another reminder that it’s laughable how the media kept pushing the narrative that Lynne and Britney hadn’t been in touch for 15 years. Lol. 9 Link to comment
Mr_Steven_Spears Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, David Rose said: Do they really think fans are gonna come watch her perform if the c-ship is still in place? I wouldn't even consider it. I'm honestly curious as to what percentage of us will still be willing to support her music and shows if it doesn't end. Remember Larry said ‘this would be good for when they re-launch Vegas’ Before locking her up in a hospital. He’s absolutely vile! I wont be supporting anything until she is free. 9 Link to comment
The Greatest Show Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, really really cool guy said: She's been performing and releasing stuff for years. She's not someone who should be under a conservatorship. Maybe she was able to do thise things because of the conservatorship? 1 Link to comment
GirlOnTheMoon Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 46 minutes ago, David Rose said: Do they really think fans are gonna come watch her perform if the c-ship is still in place? I wouldn't even consider it. I'm honestly curious as to what percentage of us will still be willing to support her music and shows if it doesn't end. I feel like (sadly) only a small portion of her fans are actively fighting the conservatorship and raising awareness for her freedom. Casual fans and the general public will still purchase tickets and even curious people will too since her name is out there again. It wouldn’t surprise me if her next tour/residency sells more than POM. 4 Link to comment
Avatar Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I don't know, her popularity has been declining for years with the general public and fans. Losing the fans in the loop that have consistently been supportive her entire career, they might actually see it's not going to work anymore. Especially if they cancelled Domination because of ticket sales. But then again, the general public is stupid. All they need is one TMZ report saying Britney is the best shes ever been and is happy to be under the conservatorship and announce the new residency.. 4 Link to comment
PokemonSpears Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Avatar said: Especially if they cancelled Domination because of ticket sales. I mean, are we really entertaining this theory at this point, after everything we've seen? I think it's very clear that was the least of their concerns. 3 Link to comment
Avatar Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 She never needed the conservatorship. She needed loving and trustworthy people in her life that actually care about her and not her money. It's clear that the people before and after the conservatorship never had her best interest in mind. Both sides used her for their own fame and exploited the relationships they had with her. Kevin, Alli, Sam Lufti, Adnan are no better than Jamie, Lou, Larry, Andrew. 8 Link to comment
Avatar Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, PokemonSpears said: I mean, are we really entertaining this theory at this point, after everything we've seen? I think it's very clear that was the least of their concerns. It's hard to tell whats true. I don't really believe the medication story about it being cancelled because she didnt want to take medicine. Especially if those issues were occurring months prior to Domination.... why even take the chance at starting a new residency all if was starting to be out of control? I really don't believe they would take the chance of being sued by MGM. I doubt there was anything in the contract about being able to cancel it due to mental health or the conservators health. I'm sure never even openly admitted to anything about Britneys health besides insurance for possible injury. It's hard to keep up with whats true, what was openly admitted and what was exposed by other sources. Aren't they still saying it was cancelled because of Jamies colon surgery? 2 Link to comment
really really cool guy Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 53 minutes ago, The Greatest Show said: Maybe she was able to do thise things because of the conservatorship? Conservatorsgips are for elder people or people who can't work or function. And honestly what crazy thing has she ever done? Shaving her head? Having messy hair? She was never a candidate for a conservatorship. If that was the case half of the celebrities would be conservatees 6 Link to comment
chizwhiz Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Steel Magnolia said: She's far from "just her assistant." I believe her to be a "life coach" who is there to monitor B's every move. She's Lou Taylor's right-hand woman. Yes. On britneys Birthday in 2016 there are photos from her getting a cake and having a tea party at her home and Robin is in all the pictures. Also when she was on tour in Europe last year and she’s seen going to a car with Sam. Robin runs over and opens the door for Britney and takes a gift from a fan. For someone that works for her accountant it’s f’in weird to say the least. 4 Link to comment
PokemonSpears Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Avatar said: It's hard to tell whats true. I don't really believe the medication story about it being cancelled because she didnt want to take medicine. Especially if those issues were occurring months prior to Domination.... why even take the chance at starting a new residency all if was starting to be out of control? I really don't believe they would take the chance of being sued by MGM. I doubt there was anything in the contract about being able to cancel it due to mental health or the conservators health. I'm sure never even openly admitted to anything about Britneys health besides insurance for possible injury. It's hard to keep up with whats true, what was openly admitted and what was exposed by other sources. Aren't they still saying it was cancelled because of Jamies colon surgery? Well, among the million narratives, there is the one about they cancelling Domination as a punishment to Britney, or that Britney cancelled it herself because they weren't listening to her and then they checked her into that facility. Other narratives including Larry's talked about she being in danger because she stopped taking the medicines, but none of them, even the rumors, have talked about ticket sales. I mean, if they went as far as to sign this new residency, I don't think they would've stopped with the idea just because the shows weren't sold out. She was still getting paid independently of how many tickets were sold. If any, it would've been MGM who cancelled mid-residency if sales didn't increase. I think the last thing they (team cship) wanted was to create all this controversy by cancelling the show. It would've been ideal for them to just keep at the same pace as POM the previous years without anyone questioning anything. 5 Link to comment
Popular Post redacted statement Posted May 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2019 had a lecture in "International Human Rights" about the rights of the disabled and we were talking about how a lot of disabled people don't even apply for the status of a disabled person for a multitude of reasons (either they don't want people to know that they're mentally disabled or they don't even realise themselves that they're disabled).. regarding situations where someone doesn't apply because they aren't even aware of their own disability, someone brought up a question: "but wouldn't these people have legal guardians that would do the application for them??" and the lecturer replied with: "conservatorships / guardianships are a rare case and even if you have pretty crippling mental issues a conservatorship still might not be justified or necessary".. she also pointed out how ****** up guardianships are because it's so easy to put one in place compared to how almost impossible it is to get out of one.. it used to be even more awful because more often than not the potential conservatee wasn't even present in court and the hearings would often only take like 15 minutes which is ridiculous considering how life changing of a decision that is.. in her opinion: they should only be put in place in absolutely DIRE situations where someone has the potential to destroy their own life / estate / etc. as well as can't provide for themselves in any way they should only be considered if there are no other options left (meaning that other options should be looked into before even entertaining the thought of a conservatorship) full blown conservatorships that take away all rights should be even more rare.. in her opinion in most cases only a specific type of rights should be taken away (only financial decisions, etc.) this isn't necessarily anything new but I thought I'd still share due to how relevant it is.. 11 Link to comment
chizwhiz Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, PokemonSpears said: I mean, are we really entertaining this theory at this point, after everything we've seen? I think it's very clear that was the least of their concerns. although it wasn’t the main reason ticket sales were concerning. I checked the following two weeks after opening night and less than 20 tickets were booked some nights. You can’t blame a show that’s had no promotion though. 1 Link to comment
Avatar Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, PokemonSpears said: Well, among the million narratives, there is the one about they cancelling Domination as a punishment to Britney, or that Britney cancelled it herself because they weren't listening to her and then they checked her into that facility. Other narratives including Larry's talked about she being in danger because she stopped taking the medicines, but none of them, even the rumors, have talked about ticket sales. I mean, if they went as far as to sign this new residency, I don't think they would've stopped with the idea just because the shows weren't sold out. She was still getting paid independently of how many tickets were sold. If any, it would've been MGM who cancelled mid-residency if sales didn't increase. I think the last thing they (team cship) wanted was to create all this controversy by cancelling the show. It would've been ideal for them to just keep at the same pace as POM the previous years without anyone questioning anything. You're right. And they definitely didn't consider how invested fans are in her personal life. 3 Link to comment
PokemonSpears Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, chizwhiz said: although it wasn’t the main reason ticket sales were concerning. I checked the following two weeks after opening night and less than 20 tickets were booked some nights. You can’t blame a show that’s had no promotion though. but was it really up to B's team to cancel it? I understand she was getting paid a fixed amount per night, no matter how many tickets were sold. MGM should've been the one worried about it, I believe. Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, chizwhiz said: Yes. On britneys Birthday in 2016 there are photos from her getting a cake and having a tea party at her home and Robin is in all the pictures. Also when she was on tour in Europe last year and she’s seen going to a car with Sam. Robin runs over and opens the door for Britney and takes a gift from a fan. For someone that works for her accountant it’s f’in weird to say the least. I suspect that Robin was brought in to replace Jamie after Britney started to balk at being followed by Jamie every moment of every day. 2 Link to comment
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