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Melanie Martinez’s **** Accuser Says The Singer Was “Condescending” Towards Her After Posting Letter Detailing Alleged ****** Assault

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Timothy Heller, the woman accusing Melanie Martinez of raping her, opens up about her experience since sharing her story.







Timothy Heller, the woman accusing Melanie Martinez of raping her, opens up about her experience since sharing her story.


Heller detailed a horrific experience where she claims the Cry Baby singer ******** assaulted her. “I never said yes. I said no, repeatedly. But she used her power over me, and broke me down," Heller wrote in the note. "Just so there is no confusion, I was ******** by my best friend… she performed oral *** on me and then I was penetrated with a *** toy without being asked. That’s what happened." Read the full letter here.


Martinez responded hours later. She sees their ****** encounters differently. "I am horrified and saddened by the statements and story told tonight by Timothy Heller," Martinez wrote. “She never said no to what we chose to do together. And although we parted ways, I am sending her love and light always." Read the full statement here.


Now, Heller is shedding light on the aftermath. She says Martinez tried contacting her 20 minutes after blasting the Tweet. "I started sobbing when I saw [Melanie] was calling me, and I blocked her," Heller told Newsweek. 


Martinez then tried calling Heller’s boyfriend and sent him several text messages asking to get in touch with Heller. In those messages, Martinez suggests Heller reach out to a “healer” named Raven. Heller found that “insane” and “condescending.”


"Her fans see her as this angel who understands them," Heller explained of why she didn't come forward sooner. "So I assumed no one was going to take me seriously if I explained what she did. I've been reading all the #metoo stories, and though I'm obviously in support of the people coming forward, I wasn't sure if my story of being assaulted fit.


"People don't really talk about this," Heller continued. "But I know now that assault happens this way all the time. I loved her even after it happened, and I had this sick need to protect her, which I've learned is very common for victims of assault, especially those hurt by their family or friends."


"Suggesting a healer after I said I might tell my story, saying she dreamt about me, it's condescending," Heller added. "What, she's invested in my well-being all of a sudden? And it has nothing to do with that tweet?"


Heller also refutes Martinez’s statement. "First of all, I did say 'no,' multiple times," she said. "But even if I hadn't, that doesn't mean I wanted it. She dug her own grave saying, 'she didn't say no'. That's not consent."


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Heller also refutes Martinez’s statement. "First of all, I did say 'no,' multiple times," she said. "But even if I hadn't, that doesn't mean I wanted it. She dug her own grave saying, 'she didn't say no'. That's not consent."

This is problematic. So is everyone free to claim ****** assault after having *** when you didn't object to begin with? If you say "no", that's the answer. If you're in bed with someone, they initiate *** and you are receptive / keep it going, how is your partner supposed to know that you're not ok with it?

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So Melanie didn't deny it at all, first of all. Okay, just catching up there... Secondly.... oh, this one's so touchy.... I mean, there are people who are going to tell you exactly what Timothy said-- that if she didn't want it, it can still be construed as ****, even if she never said 'no' aloud. Technically, it should be very easy to read from behavior? Not the act of orgasming -- it happens all the time in **** -- but in how she reacted as it was happening. If she didn't want it and wasn't into it, it should have been easy to pick up on, but maybe Melanie ignored that because Timothy not being verbal about it allowed her to.

But still, and again, it's like @falka said: They're the only ones who know and that's the only proof there is, so this is too difficult to judge. There's no real evidence, and there wouldn't have been any directly after the fact, either. Not with two women. I don't even think it could hold up in court, because it's all just hearsay.

I don't know. I'm not going to victim blame. I'm just going to....

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2 hours ago, BoyToySoldier said:

This is problematic. So is everyone free to claim ****** assault after having *** when you didn't object to begin with? If you say "no", that's the answer. If you're in bed with someone, they initiate *** and you are receptive / keep it going, how is your partner supposed to know that you're not ok with it?

This. 

Honestly **** does have so much gray era. It's not just black and white like ppl claim. The age gap of consent is jacked up. Drinking and *** is questionable. That's just to name a few. 

Not to mention I see the fact, only 2% of **** claims are fake, going around. No 2% of **** accusations given to police are fake claims. That is because they can prosecute for false information. That was old times when ppl would physically go into the police station get poked and tested. Not just accusing on social media...

 

 

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3 hours ago, fucknfurter said:

If she didn't want it and wasn't into it, it should have been easy to pick up on, but maybe Melanie ignored that because Timothy not being verbal about it allowed her to.

But then, is it really ****? She didn't say no, and she allowed it to happen. You can't always tell from people's facial expressions or body language because some people aren't that emotive. And even if it were obvious, why couldn't she say "no"? It's a one syllable word. A clear concise answer. No means no. What was holding her back? She allowed the act to happen. By textbook definition, that isn't ****. I mean we're getting to the point where people can't even stick it in without having a lawyer present.

Just because you regret the *** =/= ****.

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6 minutes ago, BoyToySoldier said:

But then, is it really ****? She didn't say no, and she allowed it to happen. You can't always tell from people's facial expressions or body language because some people aren't that emotive. And even if it were obvious, why couldn't she say "no"? It's a one syllable word. A clear concise answer. No means no. What was holding her back? She allowed the act to happen. By textbook definition, that isn't ****. I mean we're getting to the point where people can't even stick it in without having a lawyer present.

Didn't she say in the original post that she had repeatedly said 'no' though? 

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55 minutes ago, BoyToySoldier said:

But then, is it really ****? She didn't say no, and she allowed it to happen. You can't always tell from people's facial expressions or body language because some people aren't that emotive. And even if it were obvious, why couldn't she say "no"? It's a one syllable word. A clear concise answer. No means no. What was holding her back? She allowed the act to happen. By textbook definition, that isn't ****. I mean we're getting to the point where people can't even stick it in without having a lawyer present.

Just because you regret the *** =/= ****.

It's too gray; me personally, I would say I would struggle and continue saying no? I would make it clear how unhappy I was, but I also can't say for sure-- and to some extent, I also think it is condoning it. I can't speak to their relationship or co-dependency, so I just... This is why I just Homer'ed out, lmao. 

But as for this particular case, it's really just down to 'she said, she said' here.

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Thats so stupid turn out to a witch hunting. Like c’mon u have *** with her and then u dont feel like u like it and say Ive been *****? Like its a insult to those really suffering. This went out of control, people shouldnt pay attention to those wtf out of the blue everyone is ***** uh! :mhm: 

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1 hour ago, BoyToySoldier said:

But then, is it really ****? She didn't say no, and she allowed it to happen. You can't always tell from people's facial expressions or body language because some people aren't that emotive. And even if it were obvious, why couldn't she say "no"? It's a one syllable word. A clear concise answer. No means no. What was holding her back? She allowed the act to happen. By textbook definition, that isn't ****. I mean we're getting to the point where people can't even stick it in without having a lawyer present.

Just because you regret the *** =/= ****.

Being pressured into having ***, and saying no to *** are very different things. I’m basing my opinion on both their statements and the amount of holes in Timothy’s story. 

You’re totally right. 

 

Tbh, more of the holes in her story are being Exposed, and people are still calling those in defense of Melanie horeible things. I’m neutral, til more info is revealed, and the thing is, if she did then it’s Jail time for «Cry baby» 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but if the accusations are false, it’ll be so satisfying to see the epic meltdowns of all those people who Burnt their Melanie Merch:tiffcackle:

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1 minute ago, Crayboy said:

Being pressured into having ***, and saying no to *** are very different things. I’m basing my opinion on both their statements and the amount of holes in Timothy’s story. 

You’re totally right. 

 

Tbh, more of the holes in her story are being Exposed, and people are still calling those in defense of Melanie horeible things. I’m neutral, but if the accusations are false, it’ll be so satisfying to see the epic meltdowns of all those people who Burnt their Melanie Merch:tiffcackle:

There are no holes in her story though. Timothy said no, Melanie kept going. So she did **** Timothy.

What I’m talking about is the “what if” situation.

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9 minutes ago, BoyToySoldier said:

There are no holes in her story though. Timothy said no, Melanie kept going. So she did **** Timothy.

What I’m talking about is the “what if” situation.

There are actually, have to be the devil’s Advocate here, and look at Melanie’s (very weak) statement as well.

For example: according to her she slept over at Melanie’s house for two days, and was being pressured during the 24-25. June. But the thing is, Melanie came to L.A. The 25 as she had a show the 21. And was coming back. So That for me makes the story less credible. When that is said, there are several different other things one should consider, Twitter is raging, still

Not denying that something ****** happened though, as Melanie did confirm this as well

there’s a good amount of contradictory stuff om both sides which is unfortunate

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2 minutes ago, Crayboy said:

There are actually, have to be the devil’s Advocate here, and look at Melanie’s (very weak) statement as well.

For example: according to her she slept over at Melanie’s house for two days, and was being pressured during the 24-25. June. But the thing is, Melanie came to L.A. The 25 as she had a show the 21. And was coming back. So That for me makes the story less credible. When that is said, there are several different other things one should consider, Twitter is raging, still

 

there’s a good amount of contradictory stuff om both sides which is unfortunate

Well the accusation is out there. Unless Melanie has proof (and she hasn’t denied it), it stands.

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Martinez then tried calling Heller’s boyfriend and sent him several text messages asking to get in touch with Heller. In those messages, Martinez suggests Heller reach out to a “healer” named Raven. Heller found that “insane” and “condescending.”

 

Suggesting a healer after I said I might tell my story, saying she dreamt about me, it's condescending," Heller added. "What, she's invested in my well-being all of a sudden? And it has nothing to do with that tweet?"

 

 

condescending.........that does not sound like something a victim would say. I think she's more interested in what Martinez or the media thinks about her

 

 

 

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