Roger Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 She did VMA's, she did BBMA's twice, she did trendy promo (like Carpool Karaoke) Yet she still flopped; so what's our new excuse now? Link to comment
Shadow. Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 there's multiple factors behind her lack of success nowadays, albeit the promo improved it wasn't really for glory, it was pom promo with a slight mention of glory. Link to comment
RussianFan Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Thanks to that promo she didn't flop hard in fact MM has sold as much as CTTR by Katy. Album did ok. If she had ticket deal it would have sold more than Gagas or Katy's first weeks. Link to comment
celebration2009 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, RussianFan said: Thanks to that promo she didn't flop hard in fact MM has sold as much as CTTR by Katy. Album did ok. If she had ticket deal it would have sold more than Gagas or Katy's first weeks. CTTR is platinum, MM is gold. Link to comment
RussianFan Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pedro Dantas said: CTTR is platinum, MM is gold. I said SOLD Link to comment
neel21 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, RussianFan said: If she had ticket deal it would have sold more than Gagas or Katy's first weeks. Idk why her team never bundled albums with POM. POM would have had bright an enormous amount of relative sales Link to comment
celebration2009 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, RussianFan said: I said SOLD Receipts? Link to comment
Derrick Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Britney is to blame for her lack of success in recent years. She doesn't want it. Ya'll can make your polls and throw around your ideas and plans for a successful era but you wont get it. This is what we get, get used to it already. Link to comment
RussianFan Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Pedro Dantas said: Receipts? The internet Link to comment
LeglessJamie Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, neel21 said: Idk why her team never bundled albums with POM. POM would have had bright an enormous amount of relative sales Because ha team is incapable. Easy as that sis Link to comment
celebration2009 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 23 minutes ago, RussianFan said: The internet "The internet" says CTTR sold 3 million WW, while it's not possible to find updated MM WW sales figures. Once again, receipts to prove the claim you made? Link to comment
Guest Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, RussianFan said: Thanks to that promo she didn't flop hard in fact MM has sold as much as CTTR by Katy. Album did ok. If she had ticket deal it would have sold more than Gagas or Katy's first weeks. Just goes to show you how much the promo really did help. Link to comment
Roger Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Pedro Dantas said: "The internet" says CTTR sold 3 million WW, while it's not possible to find updated MM WW sales figures. Once again, receipts to prove the claim you made? I would legit kill to make Britney's next single sell 3M WW pure sales Link to comment
Steel Magnolia Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'm still blaming her creative team. Or lack of one. Link to comment
celebration2009 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Just now, Roger said: I would legit kill to make Britney's next single sell 3M WW pure sales I don't know if the CTTR receipt was pure sales or SPS. That's the problem with looking for receits in "the internet", instead of reliable sources like Billboard, Mediatraffic, Chartmasters, etc. @RussianFan Receipts that MM sold the same amount as CTTR? Link to comment
jennyj Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 It's not the lack of promo or Britney's 'laziness' as some of you like to blame. It's her label and team's cheapness and lack of confidence in her. In today's music industry, with everything online and streaming... everyone is bombarded with content overload. It's hard to stand out against the millions of videos and memes out there. Heck, most of the videos on YouTube's 'Trending' list are not really trending, but they are paid spots.... same with Spotify. The labels pay for exposure, trending and spins on various lists. A lot of big name artists are flopping recently, and it's mostly tween stars that are getting bigger numbers (obviously because the younger gens are raised on being online and their labels are paying more for those spots). Unfortunately, it's not easy for Britney to do what she wants because she's under the conservatorship. Someone of her caliber and legacy, should just leave all labels, start her own independent label, and have full creative control (i.e. like the Blackout era)... it allowed her to experiment, work with producers she wanted to work with, and create music she's passionate about. It would also allow her to get better choreographers since they're probably limited to the ones her team/label gives them. Even recently with the lip sync fiasco, you can tell she was more angry about it this time around, because I'm pretty sure her team doesn't allow her to do anything she wants... even in FTR, she wanted songs she wanted to perform and selected singles, but they went against her choices. It's obvious they don't trust or value her creativity and talent anymore. Link to comment
Anti-Hero Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I’ve never had this delusion in the first place Link to comment
MM Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Derrick said: Britney is to blame for her lack of success in recent years. She doesn't want it. Ya'll can make your polls and throw around your ideas and plans for a successful era but you wont get it. This is what we get, get used to it already. haha what? if she doesn't want success then why was she trying hard to make glory a success by doing all the promo? she's irrelevant to today's audience that's why she's not successful Link to comment
mauureee Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 she did the promo but executed it poorly we've discussed this a million times already Link to comment
zxcvb Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, jennyj said: It's not the lack of promo or Britney's 'laziness' as some of you like to blame. It's her label and team's cheapness and lack of confidence in her. In today's music industry, with everything online and streaming... everyone is bombarded with content overload. It's hard to stand out against the millions of videos and memes out there. Heck, most of the videos on YouTube's 'Trending' list are not really trending, but they are paid spots.... same with Spotify. The labels pay for exposure, trending and spins on various lists. A lot of big name artists are flopping recently, and it's mostly tween stars that are getting bigger numbers (obviously because the younger gens are raised on being online and their labels are paying more for those spots). Unfortunately, it's not easy for Britney to do what she wants because she's under the conservatorship. Someone of her caliber and legacy, should just leave all labels, start her own independent label, and have full creative control (i.e. like the Blackout era)... it allowed her to experiment, work with producers she wanted to work with, and create music she's passionate about. It would also allow her to get better choreographers since they're probably limited to the ones her team/label gives them. Even recently with the lip sync fiasco, you can tell she was more angry about it this time around, because I'm pretty sure her team doesn't allow her to do anything she wants... even in FTR, she wanted songs she wanted to perform and selected singles, but they went against her choices. It's obvious they don't trust or value her creativity and talent anymore. There's no doubt that the conservatorship stunted her artistic growth, so I do have sympathy there. I definitely agree with you there that she should start her own independent label in the future. Regarding Glory, does anyone know how much Britney actually talked about the album in interviews? It seemed that she barely even talked about any of it in on camera interviews. Link to comment
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