One of the things that hurts me the most about Britney's career is ..

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, HenryEvans said:

 

That didn't matter bc the era was ending, so it didn't have any impact on the album.

 I was explaining what happened tho lol

[Dinirocal]

2 hours ago, Spearsfan said:

I think Radar was out of their hands because of the contract. 

I agree Shattered Glass had single success all over it. It was sad they had to ruin it some how.

Im happy Circus tour is loved now. Ppl really when in on it when it was happening but it was a shock at that time not to see danceney. 

I love that tour! The merch was on point. 

If they cared it would be smart to do a themed album again. It went very well for everything. A strong theme because FFT was a lame attempt at a theme. 

Yep, "Shattered Glass" should have been the real 4th single with another epic fierce music video, IMO it had the potential to be way bigger than "If U seek Amy". So yeah, that stupid contractual obligation with "Radar" ruined the era. So messed up at the end anyway. 

Regarding the Tour, I don't know but I love it, its an inmese pop show, IMO its definately among Spears Tours / shows trinity. I would have loved a DVD release for it. 

[Spearsfan]

3 minutes ago, Dinirocal said:

Yep, "Shattered Glass" should have been the real 4th single with another epic fierce music video, IMO it had the potential to be way bigger than "If U seek Amy". So yeah, that stupid contractual obligation with "Radar" ruined the era. So messed up at the end anyway. 

Regarding the Tour, I don't know but I love it, its an inmese pop show, IMO its definately among Spears Tours / shows trinity. I would have loved a DVD release for it. 

It's my second fav tour after DWAD. Onyx is third. 

How they didn't released her biggest tour on DVD is beyond me. They are so dumb 

THE production was top notch. 

[Dinirocal]

2 hours ago, Spearsfan said:

It's my second fav tour after DWAD. Onyx is third. 

How they didn't released her biggest tour on DVD is beyond me. They are so dumb 

THE production was top notch. 

"Circus Tour" is my second fav Tour from her but I'm opposite to you. Onyx is my first and DWAD is my third.

"Circus tour" had a stunning production, style, visuals, interludes, everything was top-notch, it was an entire Pop espectacle that truly entertained. And it also had some of Britney's last live moments with Alanis' "You oughta know" great live rendition. 

[Spearsfan]

1 minute ago, Dinirocal said:

"Circus Tour" is my second fav Tour from her but I'm opposite to you. Onyx is my first and DWAD is my third.

"Circus tour" had a stunning production, style, visuals, interludes, everything was top-notch, it was an entire Pop espectacle that truly entertained. And it also had some of Britney's last live moments with Alanis' "You oughta know" great live rendition. 

It was!!! I'm so happy I got to see Circus live. 

I was just jamming to YOK yesterday. 

Im one of the ppl that think it was live, I know it has been debated before

[Dinirocal]

2 hours ago, Spearsfan said:

It was!!! I'm so happy I got to see Circus live. 

I was just jamming to YOK yesterday. 

Im one of the ppl that think it was live, I know it has been debated before

From what I know it was live. Anyway "Circus" only needed "Shattered Glass" as the 4th single to be bigger. But at least most of the era was good.

"Femme Fatale" is probably the most wasted one, because she still had the Pop relevance, the hype, the radio support, the casual pop listeners, the abillity to still produce easy hits based on name alone, she even had 4 proper well hanlded singles from the album unlike "Blackout" and "Circus" ..... Yet she just sabotaged her chance to have a flawless era with being out of shape, unmotivated and pulling her worst performances, like she wasn't even caring about anything ... Lets not even mention the tragic and tacky fashion style / sense her outfits had on the tour like seriously her stylist at the time should have been fired.

[MissSpearsSaysSo]

At the point of In The Zone she was tired and needed a major break. She didn't want to be a famous pop star anymore. She kept it going for her fans. 

[Spearsfan]

7 hours ago, Dinirocal said:

From what I know it was live. Anyway "Circus" only needed "Shattered Glass" as the 4th single to be bigger. But at least most of the era was good.

"Femme Fatale" is probably the most wasted one, because she still had the Pop relevance, the hype, the radio support, the casual pop listeners, the abillity to still produce easy hits based on name alone, she even had 4 proper well hanlded singles from the album unlike "Blackout" and "Circus" ..... Yet she just sabotaged her chance to have a flawless era with being out of shape, unmotivated and pulling her worst performances, like she wasn't even caring about anything ... Lets not even mention the tragic and tacky fashion style / sense her outfits had on the tour like seriously her stylist at the time should have been fired.

That bra and Jean shorts were the most unflattering things I've seen on her. 

[prettylittleliar_2214]

They really messed up too many times. Circus, BO, ITZ, and FF needed 5 singles minimum. Other artists release a ton of singles and that's how you market and really get everything out of an era. They missed a huge chance with Circus to show her vulnerable side as an artist. It should've been:

1. womanizer

2. circus

3. IUSA

4. Shattered Glass (people loved that song)

5. Unusual You

6. Radar

Then the singles collection with 3 new songs or a Circus rerelease with 3 and two other tracks. A lot of her unreleased material is amazing so that's another strike for Team Britney. I'm always devastated by them choosing Outrageous as the 4th single instead of BOM then the hook up or I got that boom boom and the knee injury would be avoided. Blackout was understandable. Britney era: they should've just gone for a solo album and do a separate crossroads soundtrack. Because the ST songs messed up the album flow and consistency. FF should've been given to Britney creatively and her career would be in a different space but even with the album as is it needed 5 singles while her airplay was huge. Britney Jean shouldn't have happened at all. But at least just do a couple of tracks or a short EP to promote Vegas. Put Scream & Shout on the track list along with the remix, Work *****, Alien, a far better version of Til its Gone with GOOD production, TTB with a rap that isn't offensive with Nicki Minaj, etc. Keep it at 8 tracks but well produced. Glory needed the original Make Me video, a better album release date, and not losing the momentum that came with the BBMA. Then a VMA medley, album bundle with Vegas tickets, Slumber Party release before album comes out, etc. 4 singles for Glory but we will likely get 3. If Make Me wasn't ready for the BBMA performance then another song should've been the lead single because they lost momentum and didn't get it back. Glory track list, I love Glory its in my top 2 competing with ITZ. Moodring should've been on the standard edition as should all the bonus tracks especially CYM, Better, and If I'm dancing. What you need, private show, and Clumsy are bonus track material not standard track. Keep in mind I like every song on the album so this isn't an insult. There's more but I can't remember the rest of their mistakes. Oops having only 4 singles was dumb too. 

[Billy Boi]

Don't forget scrapping Original Doll. Mona Lisa and the leaks from Money, Love and Happiness give me life. The album would have been a middle finger to the industry, and the copy cats coming out around then. I feel like the album would have had the vibe of Do Something, but a bit darker and mysterious. Could have been amazing...

[brit4u1998]

12 hours ago, MissSpearsSaysSo said:

At the point of In The Zone she was tired and needed a major break. She didn't want to be a famous pop star anymore. She kept it going for her fans. 

I noticed around spring 2004, and definitely by her leg injury around June 2004, she was 'over it.' 

[Justney]

I'm still mad that Onyx Hotel Tour never got the DVD treatment... i mean i guess you can get bootleg copies but it's not the same.

[Innocentney]

Didn't she also have the radio ban that affected most of her singles? It started from 2001 till 2003? 

[Dinirocal]

2 hours ago, Innocentney said:

Didn't she also have the radio ban that affected most of her singles? It started from 2001 till 2003? 

Yes, but that was not Britney's or her Team's fault. Despite that she still pulled a brilliant era with "Britney" which she milked until the end. Great music, great image, 6 music videos, appearances everywhere, stunning TV performances everywhere, top notch Tour, DVDs and TV specials, iconic moments, long era, etc, etc. 

[TheCharmedTributes1]

On 28. 12. 2016 at 1:49 AM, Dinirocal said:

One of the things that hurts me the most about Britney's career is that she's messed up every album she's done for more than a decade already and none of the majority of her albums reached its maximum or full potential. 

Her only albums that were handled or milked properly were her first 3 eras (BOMT, OIDIA, Britney) but ever since 2003 (ITZ) she or her label or her team limited every single album she did frustrating them to show their full capacity to shine. 

- In the zone: Everything was going perfect and epic until she hurt her knee and cancelled the entire era, I think the whole injury was an excuse because if she was able to shoot a music video for "My prerogative" she could have perfectly shot another music video for "In the zone" but it seems she was all over it cut shorting and reducing such a brilliant album to only 3 international singles, that album could have given so much more ..... MESSED UP ERA #1. 

- Blackout: She had a brilliant and game changing album in her hands but it wasn't released at the right time in her life, for logical reasons she couldn't treat it as it truly deserved, she pulled an infamous VMAs performance, a cheap music video for "Gimme More" and at some point she couldn't even finish the era, after BTI she said she wouldn't continue to promote it as she was moving on brand new to her comeback album ... Imagine if "Blackout" would have been promoted with the epicness of ITZ? It could have been her "Confessions on a dancefloor" ...... MESSED UP ERA #2. 

- Circus: This was almost perfect, she started strong with a great campaign and slaying, and then one of the worst marketing decissions ever made in music history came: releasing a single from your previous album to promote your new album. And not enough with that she then abandoned the era to release a pointless compilation, what a way to just kill and murder an era, "Circus" had much more potential and could have done way more ... MESSED UP ERA #3. 

- Femme Fatale: Unlike her previous records this one wasn't cut short, she learned her lesson and pulled a complete set of 4 singles and managed to close the promotion's cycle, but there was one thing, she was out of shape, unmotivated and pulling the worst performances of her career ... So, she had to ruin it somehow no? ... MESSED UP ERA #4. 

- Britney Jean: She starts with "Work *****" and a brilliant and expensive music video, everything seems fine, then pull a desert fiasco, to later releasing "Perfume" and the album (with terrible quality) to never ever mentioning the album again, no more singles, just abandoning it until it rot in the dark .... MESSED UP ERA #5. 

- Glory: Such brilliant album right? .. Such brilliant lead single right? .... then scrap an expensive and edgy music video to release an even worse and cheaper music video, what a great way to launch an era, she later tried a compensantion with "Slumber Party" but it came too late once that "Glory" was already out of the charts ..... MESSED UP ERA #6. 

 

Her career is still epic and legendary and better than most Pop stars' .... But now imagine if she had handled all and every of her eras in the way she handled "Britney"? ...  My brain can't even process the slayage that would've been. Britney's albums could've been even bigger if she wanted, they never reached their full potential. 

I agree on one thing: it's VERY frustrating to see that much potential go to waste. Almost every single era till now was messed up by at least something. And it's sad, especially when we - fans - know that Britney is able of slaying the world and much more!

But a lot of the "reasons" you mentioned weren't really her fault or at least things were out of her control imo. For example:

- ITZ; I can't say a lot about it cause I wasn't a fan back then so I don't know a lot about that era.

- Blackout - it was a perfect album that got ****** up by her personal life. And it that time she was at her lowest, so I think it's not fair to judge anything. She gave us her best body of work and that's more than we should ask at her state in that time.

- Circus - they were contracted to release Radar, so there's not a lot Britney could do here. She could've release another single, but yeah. And still I think promotion for Circus was brilliant - she was everywhere and it showed in numbers.

- FF - promo plan was great and the album was great too imo. The only thing lacking were her passion to actually do it and good performances. I believe rumors about her still not being totally healthy in that time cause it really showed. She often seemed zoned out, she looked unhappy and totally not connected to what she was presenting. Again - that's not really "her fault".

- BJ - this one was a mess. They rushed everything, the songs were unfinished and they concentrated too much on Vegas. But like you said - we got WB which became one of her signature songs plus still one of her best music videos lately. BJ also had some great songs, but that's a matter of taste.

- Glory - again, the biggest **** up was the scrapped mv for MM, which I doubt was totally her fault. SP music video was just as raunchy if not more and it got released, so the rumors about her scrapping it because of too much sexiness is false imo. I think there were probles with director. After that the fans kind of said goodbye to the whole era and it showed. But we still got an amazing album.

[breaktheiceofmrv]

31 minutes ago, A.D. said:

She needs a team like Beyoncé's. Sure, she dances like a headless turkey and her excessive ambition will one day take over her sanity but she's on top of the game because all that great marketing has mantained her powerful status on mainstream media outlets 

Love you!  

[Calilove1]

we all know based on unreleased songs brit has wrote she has amazing writing skills! Everytime is the one single i know she basically fully wrote and it was beautiful and so meaningful. I feel if they let her be the one calling the shots the album would be stellar and amazing. I see her getting a little more control but honestly they should let her run with it all and decide producers ,songs, ect! Also it would help if her team encouraged her to try new things and be daring and not tell her to take the safe side always.

[Froot]

I think that during ITZ KFed came into the picture if it wasn't him, I recon she would go back to promote it. 

Id leave Blackout, because we all know, what a time it was for her and what's more I think whole context about it makes this record even special.

Circus was too bubbly for me. Womanizer and Circus was great but IFSA was too sugary for me, and besides Unusual You, Blur and Mannequin this record doesn't have some unique factor to it. It's good that it happened, because it showed that she is well and so on, but looking from now, Im not so big fan of this album (although Circus the song was masterpiece)

With Femme Fatale the worst decission was, that her team didn't let her record an album she wants and put doctor Puke on it, who overproduced many vocals. The beat goes and the songs slay, but they are too oveprocessed for me and she was very off, like she is begging for setting her free. It was painful to watch honestly. And TTWE which shouldnt happen, EVER.

BJ was a nail to her coffin, everything was messy, she has the opportunity, but releasing an album only for vegas? It doesnt make any sense and Britney wasn't feeling it either, another wrong decission from her team.

Glory is amazing, is a true blessing, and Im very thankful for this year and this record but again - it was a wrong start from her. Everything was wrong planned or wrong managed. Late single release, music video fiasco, promoting POM over Glory - this hurts the most...

 

[Arnold.]

10 hours ago, Froot said:

I think that during ITZ KFed came into the picture if it wasn't him, I recon she would go back to promote it. 

Id leave Blackout, because we all know, what a time it was for her and what's more I think whole context about it makes this record even special.

Circus was too bubbly for me. Womanizer and Circus was great but IFSA was too sugary for me, and besides Unusual You, Blur and Mannequin this record doesn't have some unique factor to it. It's good that it happened, because it showed that she is well and so on, but looking from now, Im not so big fan of this album (although Circus the song was masterpiece)

With Femme Fatale the worst decission was, that her team didn't let her record an album she wants and put doctor Puke on it, who overproduced many vocals. The beat goes and the songs slay, but they are too oveprocessed for me and she was very off, like she is begging for setting her free. It was painful to watch honestly. And TTWE which shouldnt happen, EVER.

BJ was a nail to her coffin, everything was messy, she has the opportunity, but releasing an album only for vegas? It doesnt make any sense and Britney wasn't feeling it either, another wrong decission from her team.

Glory is amazing, is a true blessing, and Im very thankful for this year and this record but again - it was a wrong start from her. Everything was wrong planned or wrong managed. Late single release, music video fiasco, promoting POM over Glory - this hurts the most...

 

I agree with 99% of everything you said.

but as for the Glory era. It's hard to say on what Britney and her team are aiming for. Are they aiming for a past Britney back on top of the world again? Or is Britney just full heartedly back in the game cause she genuinely enjoys it, BUT she has no desire to conquer the music business again. You can see it in her face, her body, that shes happy, shes thriving and shes happy to release everything that has been released.  all of the decisions may not but the best regardless of material or timing, or most potential for success. but they don't seem to do much damage control. so it makes me wonder if britney is just genuinely happy making music she wants to do, and is just doing her thing regardless of getting the recognition the album deserves or not. i think if she was really hungry for that success again, things would pan out differently on her end.